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sirdroseph

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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 8:43am

 MusicIsMotion wrote:
I have a question.  Was this thread meant to be comedic, legitimate or was it generally just meant to turn into a God-bashing party?  I'm really trying to respect the atheist mentality and judge-not but wow.  It's sometimes painful to read the hateful words of a bunch of self-proclaimed moralists and pacifists who slam the One that's lead me through so much pain and suffering in my life.  And yeah, I know... if I didn't want to read it, I shouldn't have clicked the link.  But in my effort to maintain respect and appreciation (certainly also to understand more) for certain personalities' beliefs that I've come to enjoy reading from here, I did.  I guess I'm just going to have to delete this bookmark, leave and simply enjoy the music from a stand-alone player. 

Bash away, atheists.  A certain Christian here is certainly trying not to disrespect your beliefs but you should know that some of your words hurt and I, for one, am offended.  Thanks, "intellects".

 
I don't have any, that is the whole point. You cannot disrespect or offend me unless you personally attack my family or me. There is a certain elegance in beauty in that. You should not be concerned what others think of your beliefs, they are yours and yours alone.
hippiechick

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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 8:41am

 sirdroseph wrote:


Again, common sense. I would kill him without a second thought and sleep like a baby that night too.

 
If taking any life allows you to sleep like a baby, that says something about you.

How do you feel about this soldier that went off the rails after serving 3 tours of duty and killed all those Afghani people? Should he be executed?
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 8:37am

 buzz wrote:

That's not what the Bible says. It says murder. It means murder.
 
Question for ya-
If your daughter was being attacked and the only way to stop it was to kill the attacker, what would you do? If you don't kill him, he will surely kill your daughter. Would you watch your child die because you believe it's always wrong to kill?

 

Again, common sense. I would kill him without a second thought and sleep like a baby that night too.
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 8:25am

 Beaker wrote:

I like to think of it more as a frenetic laser tag game of seek and destroy/immolate/nuculear-ize, etc.

 
Killing someone is a reflection on you not on someone else.
buzz

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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 8:20am

 Beaker wrote:

Good observations.

There are a select few here who believe that if you're not of the same beliefs they hold, you are indeed intellectually inferior.  Conservatives, Republicans, and Christians frequently fall into their field of fire.

Of course I'm not exactly innocent, as I enjoy targeting the truthers, the misogynists, and those who believe animal abuse is okay.  Gotta draw the line somewhere, right?

 
would that be a straight line or do you have some ziggin and zaggin going on?
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 8:20am

 Beaker wrote:

Good observations.

There are a select few here who believe that if you're not of the same beliefs they hold, you are indeed intellectually inferior.  Conservatives, Republicans, and Christians frequently fall into their field of fire.

Of course I'm not exactly innocent, as I enjoy targeting the truthers, the misogynists, and those who believe animal abuse is okay.  Gotta draw the line somewhere, right?

 
would that be a straight line or do you have some ziggin and zaggin going on?
hippiechick

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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 8:18am

 MusicIsMotion wrote:

HC, I'm not trying to shove anything down your throat.  But I resent your "fairy tale" remarks as well as your lack of remorse for anyone's feelings that you disagree with.  You are officially my most un-favorite personality on this forum and I think I'll refrain from ever talking to you again.  You bring me down with most of what I read from you and I view you as a damaged soul.  So from my heart, God bless YOU.

./thatisall

 
You are free to feel the way you do.

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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 8:15am

 hippiechick wrote:

Don't read this thread then.

No one can stop you from believing what you believe. Believe away. It is hard for me, as an atheist, to understand what you believe in, but I would not stop you from believing it. Just don't make me believe.

 
HC, I'm not trying to shove anything down your throat.  But I resent your "fairy tale" remarks as well as your lack of remorse for anyone's feelings that you disagree with.  You are officially my most un-favorite personality on this forum and I think I'll refrain from ever talking to you again.  You bring me down with most of what I read from you and I view you as a damaged soul.  So from my heart, God bless YOU.

./thatisall
hippiechick

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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 8:12am

 MusicIsMotion wrote:
I have a question.  Was this thread meant to be comedic, legitimate or was it generally just meant to turn into a God-bashing party?  I'm really trying to respect the atheist mentality and judge-not but wow.  It's sometimes painful to read the hateful words of a bunch of self-proclaimed moralists and pacifists who slam the One that's lead me through so much pain and suffering in my life.  And yeah, I know... if I didn't want to read it, I shouldn't have clicked the link.  But in my effort to maintain respect and appreciation (certainly also to understand more) for certain personalities' beliefs that I've come to enjoy reading from here, I did.  I guess I'm just going to have to delete this bookmark, leave and simply enjoy the music from a stand-alone player. 

Bash away, atheists.  A certain Christian here is certainly trying not to disrespect your beliefs but you should know that some of your words hurt and I, for one, am offended.  Thanks, "intellects".

 
Don't read this thread then.

No one can stop you from believing what you believe. Believe away. It is hard for me, as an atheist, to understand what you believe in, but I would not stop you from believing it. Just don't make me believe.
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 8:07am

I have a question.  Was this thread meant to be comedic, legitimate or was it generally just meant to turn into a God-bashing party?  I'm really trying to respect the atheist mentality and judge-not but wow.  It's sometimes painful to read the hateful words of a bunch of self-proclaimed moralists and pacifists who slam the One that's lead me through so much pain and suffering in my life.  And yeah, I know... if I didn't want to read it, I shouldn't have clicked the link.  But in my effort to maintain respect and appreciation (certainly also to understand more) for certain personalities' beliefs that I've come to enjoy reading from here, I did.  I guess I'm just going to have to delete this bookmark, leave and simply enjoy the music from a stand-alone player. 

Bash away, atheists.  A certain Christian here is certainly trying not to disrespect your beliefs but you should know that some of your words hurt and I, for one, am offended.  Thanks, "intellects".
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 7:43am

 cc_rider wrote:
That's what I would call an 'activist atheist'. Someone who spends a lot of time researching, who can spout chapter and verse from Scripture, and delight in exposing the contradictions of religion. I find those folks tedious, because they cannot grasp how fully 'faith' dominates the discussion.

There are a lot of us who walk the line between atheist and agnostic too. I think there is something else beyond our physical senses, but I am reluctant to ascribe conventional descriptions of 'God' to it. And I also think it is possible our spiritual experiences, including paranormal activities, are constructs from our unconsciousness. We are discovering new things about our brains every day, like the placebo effect, for example. Our brains may know things we cannot process on a physical level. Maybe I'm a Jungian in that respect, I don't know.

 

word.
hippiechick

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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 7:41am

 cc_rider wrote:
That's what I would call an 'activist atheist'. Someone who spends a lot of time researching, who can spout chapter and verse from Scripture, and delight in exposing the contradictions of religion. I find those folks tedious, because they cannot grasp how fully 'faith' dominates the discussion.

There are a lot of us who walk the line between atheist and agnostic too. I think there is something else beyond our physical senses, but I am reluctant to ascribe conventional descriptions of 'God' to it. And I also think it is possible our spiritual experiences, including paranormal activities, are constructs from our unconsciousness. We are discovering new things about our brains every day, like the placebo effect, for example. Our brains may know things we cannot process on a physical level. Maybe I'm a Jungian in that respect, I don't know.

 
I don't really care what people believe in, sometimes I wish I believed in anything! If people want to believe in fairy tales, and it isn't hurt me, what do I care.
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 7:40am

 hippiechick wrote:

I would make every effort to save my daughter without killing her attacker.

 



I would hope your maternal instincts wouLd kick in and you wouldn't waste precious time figuring out a "humane" way to stop your daughters murder.
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 7:39am

 winter wrote:
Just to be clear: not all atheists are of the "religion sucks, and here are the shortcomings of your preferred religious text that prove it" camp.

  That's what I would call an 'activist atheist'. Someone who spends a lot of time researching, who can spout chapter and verse from Scripture, and delight in exposing the contradictions of religion. I find those folks tedious, because they cannot grasp how fully 'faith' dominates the discussion.

There are a lot of us who walk the line between atheist and agnostic too. I think there is something else beyond our physical senses, but I am reluctant to ascribe conventional descriptions of 'God' to it. And I also think it is possible our spiritual experiences, including paranormal activities, are constructs from our unconsciousness. We are discovering new things about our brains every day, like the placebo effect, for example. Our brains may know things we cannot process on a physical level. Maybe I'm a Jungian in that respect, I don't know.


hippiechick

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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 7:33am

 buzz wrote:

That's not what the Bible says. It says murder. It means murder.
 
Question for ya-
If your daughter was being attacked and the only way to stop it was to kill the attacker, what would you do? If you don't kill him, he will surely kill your daughter. Would you watch your child die because you believe it's always wrong to kill?

 
I would make every effort to save my daughter without killing her attacker.
buzz

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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 7:29am

 hippiechick wrote:

The interpretation would not be "Though shalt not take another life"?

 
That's not what the Bible says. It says murder. It means murder.
 
Question for ya-
If your daughter was being attacked and the only way to stop it was to kill the attacker, what would you do? If you don't kill him, he will surely kill your daughter. Would you watch your child die because you believe it's always wrong to kill?
winter

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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 7:17am

Just to be clear: not all atheists are of the "religion sucks, and here are the shortcomings of your preferred religious text that prove it" camp.
hippiechick

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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 6:19am

 mzpro5 wrote:


No because that is what the God of the old testament did mean. Our ideals that all killing is wrong is a relatively new idea from a historical perspective. As usual our need to impose our current values on other cultures, be it historically or geographically, leads to much misunderstanding.

 
It's all hooey to me
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 6:17am

 hippiechick wrote:

Didn't anyone hear god yell "That's not what I meant!!!"

Believe it or not, I taught Sunday School for many years, mostly art classes, but the last year I taught 4th graders. I was teaching a unit on Exodus, and I had made a game called "Joshua Fought the Battle of Jericho." That actually turned me completely against religion and god, because I could not morally teach children that it's okay to kill people that don't believe what they believe.

I quit teaching, quite the temple, became an atheist.

 



No because that is what the God of the old testament did mean.

Our ideals that all killing is wrong is a relatively new idea from a historical perspective.

As usual our need to impose our current values on other cultures, be it historically or geographically, leads to much misunderstanding.
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 6:09am

 mzpro5 wrote:


No. The "murder" stipulation allows killing in the name of a righteous cause. Thus the Hebrews were "allowed" to kill those that stood in thier way to take over Canaan/Israel, the "Promised Land".

 
Didn't anyone hear god yell "That's not what I meant!!!"

Believe it or not, I taught Sunday School for many years, mostly art classes, but the last year I taught 4th graders. I was teaching a unit on Exodus, and I had made a game called "Joshua Fought the Battle of Jericho." That actually turned me completely against religion and god, because I could not morally teach children that it's okay to kill people that don't believe what they believe.

I quit teaching, quite the temple, became an atheist.
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