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Posted: Apr 11, 2019 - 12:31pm

Julian Assange carried a book during his arrest. He may have been sending a message.
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Posted: Apr 11, 2019 - 9:43am

If Assange is tried and cyber warriors attack, will the nation respond cohesively, or will all hell break loose?

No one knows, so my advice is this: Tread lightly, you who seeing Julian Assange in shackles, or chained to a wall in a country no one can spell. No one, including myself, wants to live in the world your hubris may provoke.
"British Secret Police" Have Entered the Ecuador Embassy and Arrested Julian Assange. What Kind of War Will It Start?
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2019/04/british-secret- . . .


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Posted: Apr 11, 2019 - 8:25am

Julian Assange arrested at Ecuadorian embassy in London
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Posted: Oct 20, 2018 - 11:56pm

Julian Assange sues over 'inhuman' conditions, 'denigrating' cat obligations in Ecuadorean embassy

He could always leave 

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Posted: Jul 24, 2018 - 3:45pm

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I'm not sure but I believe the "solitary" thing was because the place he originally was incarcerated in Warsaw VA was not used to handling high profile inmates. They probably put him in the solitary space so that he could talk to his lawyers ad nauseum without bothering the rest of the population.

 

Paul Manafort Is Getting Transferred out of His 'VIP' Prison

Hoisted on his own petard - his lawyers complained that his prison was too far from them to prepare for the trial {#Rolleyes}

"he’s found a way to work around the jail’s ban on email"

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Posted: Jul 24, 2018 - 10:15am

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He was jailed by a judge's order because he was charged with engaging in witness tampering while out on bail.  As the judge apparently said:  “this isn’t middle school, I can’t take away your cell phone.”  Still, the "solitary" aspect seems unusual, but I guess they consider that it could be dangerous for him to be in general population.

 
I'm not sure but I believe the "solitary" thing was because the place he originally was incarcerated in Warsaw VA was not used to handling high profile inmates. They probably put him in the solitary space so that he could talk to his lawyers ad nauseum without bothering the rest of the population.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2018 - 6:36am

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I am aware of that.  Not typical treatment though.  Rather extreme considering similar situations.
 
He was jailed by a judge's order because he was charged with engaging in witness tampering while out on bail.  As the judge apparently said:  “this isn’t middle school, I can’t take away your cell phone.”  Still, the "solitary" aspect seems unusual, but I guess they consider that it could be dangerous for him to be in general population.


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Posted: Jul 24, 2018 - 4:55am

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He was jailed pending trial because he violated conditions of his release. 

 
I am aware of that.  Not typical treatment though.  Rather extreme considering similar situations.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2018 - 4:39am

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Manafort is facing charges in more than one court.  From what I understand Podesta would testify in a separate case in a DC federal court, not this one in Virginia. 

Manafort is currently in "protective" solitary confinement while awaiting trial(s).  

 
He was jailed pending trial because he violated conditions of his release. 
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Posted: Jul 24, 2018 - 4:19am

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Limited immunity, if you believe Tucker Carlson and/or his "anonymous sources".  I guess we'll find out.

 
Manafort is facing charges in more than one court.  From what I understand Podesta would testify in a separate case in a DC federal court, not this one in Virginia. 

Manafort is currently in "protective" solitary confinement while awaiting trial(s).  
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Posted: Jul 23, 2018 - 7:00am

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This is not good.  His asylum could not last forever.  On the bright side, we might finally find out who his source for the Clinton / DNC emails really is.  Assange has said all along that it was not the Russians.  He has a 100% accuracy rate standing on his behalf.

Also oddly timed is what appears to be Mueller granting Manafort's partner Tony Podesta, brother of DNC official and Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta, immunity from prosecution if he rolls over on Manafort.  Podesta also failed to register as a foreign agent just as did Manafort.  But Podesta is a democrat and a well connected one at that ...

 
Limited immunity, if you believe Tucker Carlson and/or his "anonymous sources".  I guess we'll find out.


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Posted: Jul 21, 2018 - 7:49pm

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This is not good.  His asylum could not last forever.  On the bright side, we might finally find out who his source for the Clinton / DNC emails really is.  Assange has said all along that it was not the Russians.  He has a 100% accuracy rate standing on his behalf.

Also oddly timed is what appears to be Mueller granting Manafort's partner Tony Podesta, brother of DNC official and Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta, immunity from prosecution if he rolls over on Manafort.  Podesta also failed to register as a foreign agent just as did Manafort.  But Podesta is a democrat and a well connected one at that ...
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Posted: Jul 21, 2018 - 3:36pm

Ecuador Will Imminently Withdraw Asylum for Julian Assange and Hand Him Over to the UK. What Comes Next?
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Posted: Apr 14, 2017 - 11:55am

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Trump’s CIA Director Pompeo, Targeting WikiLeaks, Explicitly Threatens Speech and Press Freedoms (Greenwald)

In February, after Donald Trump tweeted that the U.S. media were the “enemy of the people,” the targets of his insult exploded with indignation, devoting wall-to-wall media coverage to what they depicted as a grave assault on press freedoms more befitting of a tyranny. By stark and disturbing contrast, the media reaction yesterday was far more muted, even welcoming, when Trump’s CIA Director, Michael Pompeo, actually and explicitly vowed to target freedoms of speech and press in a blistering, threatening speech he delivered to the D.C. think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies.

What made Pompeo’s overt threats of repression so palatable to many was that they were not directed at CNN, the New York Times or other beloved-in-D.C. outlets, but rather at WikiLeaks, more marginalized publishers of information, and various leakers and whistleblowers, including Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden.

Trump’s CIA Director stood up in public and explicitly threatened to target free speech rights and press freedoms, and it was almost impossible to find even a single U.S. mainstream journalist expressing objections or alarm, because the targets Pompeo chose in this instance are ones they dislike – much the way that many are willing to overlook or even sanction free speech repression if the targeted ideas or speakers are sufficiently unpopular.

Decreeing (with no evidence) that WikiLeaks is “a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia”  a belief that has become gospel in establishment Democratic Party circles – Pompeo proclaimed that “we have to recognize that we can no longer allow Assange and his colleagues the latitude to use free speech values against us.” He also argued that while WikiLeaks “pretended that America’s First Amendment freedoms shield them from justice,” but: “they may have believed that, but they are wrong.”

He then issued this remarkable threat: “To give them the space to crush us with misappropriated secrets is a perversion of what our great Constitution stands for. It ends now.” At no point did Pompeo specify what steps the CIA intended to take to ensure that the “space” to publish secrets “ends now.” (...)



 




lol I love WikiLeaks. Funny how politicians on both "sides" whatever that is either praise or condemn WikiLeaks depending on whether the information helps or hurts them. Keep on keeping on WikiLeaks!
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Posted: Apr 14, 2017 - 11:30am

Trump’s CIA Director Pompeo, Targeting WikiLeaks, Explicitly Threatens Speech and Press Freedoms (Greenwald)

In February, after Donald Trump tweeted that the U.S. media were the “enemy of the people,” the targets of his insult exploded with indignation, devoting wall-to-wall media coverage to what they depicted as a grave assault on press freedoms more befitting of a tyranny. By stark and disturbing contrast, the media reaction yesterday was far more muted, even welcoming, when Trump’s CIA Director, Michael Pompeo, actually and explicitly vowed to target freedoms of speech and press in a blistering, threatening speech he delivered to the D.C. think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies.

What made Pompeo’s overt threats of repression so palatable to many was that they were not directed at CNN, the New York Times or other beloved-in-D.C. outlets, but rather at WikiLeaks, more marginalized publishers of information, and various leakers and whistleblowers, including Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden.

Trump’s CIA Director stood up in public and explicitly threatened to target free speech rights and press freedoms, and it was almost impossible to find even a single U.S. mainstream journalist expressing objections or alarm, because the targets Pompeo chose in this instance are ones they dislike – much the way that many are willing to overlook or even sanction free speech repression if the targeted ideas or speakers are sufficiently unpopular.

Decreeing (with no evidence) that WikiLeaks is “a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia”  a belief that has become gospel in establishment Democratic Party circles – Pompeo proclaimed that “we have to recognize that we can no longer allow Assange and his colleagues the latitude to use free speech values against us.” He also argued that while WikiLeaks “pretended that America’s First Amendment freedoms shield them from justice,” but: “they may have believed that, but they are wrong.”

He then issued this remarkable threat: “To give them the space to crush us with misappropriated secrets is a perversion of what our great Constitution stands for. It ends now.” At no point did Pompeo specify what steps the CIA intended to take to ensure that the “space” to publish secrets “ends now.” (...)


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Posted: Mar 13, 2017 - 3:39pm

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 LowPhreak wrote:
For example, since Vietnam was largely over by the time he was installed in the White House, did Gerry Ford ever cut the defense budget as he should have advocated for? Not that I'm aware of.

"..the President has submitted a defense budget for 1977 which provides a real increase of $7.4 billion in total obligational authority in defense spending..."

Let's remember too that he had uber-hawks (and career ne'er-do-wells) like Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney shoved so far up his ass he couldn't see straight. So, Ford should be the last one to rattle on about "big government taking everything you have."

Vietnam war spending peaked in 1967 and declined for the following 10 years. US involvement in the war (other than evacuating embassies and such) ended in 1973. The 1977 budget represented a rearmament that began in the final year of Ford's term, continued under Carter, and peaked on Reagan's watch.

us defense spending

 

Any defense budget reductions during the Ford years were because of a Democratic Congress. Ford, because of the high inflation rates and unemployment at the time, had proposed non-defense cuts. Then by his 1977 budget much of that previously lower defense spending was being clawed back.

"The initial goodwill toward Ford steadily eroded as the numbers turned sour. Unemployment went from 4.8% in 1972 to 8.0% when he took office; consumer price inflation jumped from 3.4% to 11.0%. Unexpectedly high inflation, fueled by soaring oil prices, made it difficult to plan for the future; cheap imports from Germany and Japan for the first time became a threat to autos and electronics; high unemployment troubled industrial areas. By early 1975 the jobless rate was the worst since the Great Depression. Ford insisted that inflation was the greater problem. He sought to slow it, as Nixon had, by severe restraints on government spending for social programs. He also tried to curb private spending by asking Congress to raise the taxes on personal incomes. But the Democratic majority refused, and in congressional elections in November 1974 Democrats increased their majorities to three-fifths in the Senate and two-thirds in the House. In January 1975 Ford finally yielded to liberals' demands for a program to stop the economic slump and promote hiring. He proposed personal income tax rebates, especially to higher-income people, who might spend extra money on durable goods such as automobiles. Liberals criticized Ford's proposal for offering little relief for the poor, so they pushed through Congress a modified, though modest, tax rebate bill favoring lower-income people. Ford signed it reluctantly. He continued to resist liberal demands for massive public works spending to employ the jobless, and vetoed many bills.

Ford also wanted to make the domestic energy industry more profitable, even at the cost of inflation, in order to encourage more private investment in it and thereby reduce the dependence on oil from abroad. He proposed huge public subsidies for developing new energy sources.

Deregulation - that is, the removal of the old New Deal controls on transportation, communications, finance and other businesses - began under Ford (Nixon was more of a New Dealer who liked federal regulations), ..."

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Gerald_Ford

So we had the typical Republican playbook - Ford's "subsidies" (corporate welfare) to energy companies, corporate deregulation, along with austerity for the working class or lower incomes, advocating raising taxes on personal incomes but income tax rebates for higher incomes, and at the end of his term an increased defense budget.




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Posted: Mar 13, 2017 - 3:01pm

 LowPhreak wrote:
For example, since Vietnam was largely over by the time he was installed in the White House, did Gerry Ford ever cut the defense budget as he should have advocated for? Not that I'm aware of.

"..the President has submitted a defense budget for 1977 which provides a real increase of $7.4 billion in total obligational authority in defense spending..."

Let's remember too that he had uber-hawks (and career ne'er-do-wells) like Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney shoved so far up his ass he couldn't see straight. So, Ford should be the last one to rattle on about "big government taking everything you have."

Vietnam war spending peaked in 1967 and declined for the following 10 years. US involvement in the war (other than evacuating embassies and such) ended in 1973. The 1977 budget represented a rearmament that began in the final year of Ford's term, continued under Carter, and peaked on Reagan's watch.

us defense spending
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Posted: Mar 13, 2017 - 2:19pm

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Context is everything, eh?

 
Indeed.

Often references are made to guard against the military-industrial complex, but many of those who cite to that admonition from Ike are conspicuously silent when the Trump administration proposes big increases in defense spending while proposing massive cuts for other programs.       


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Posted: Mar 13, 2017 - 2:11pm

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The term "big government" is so nebulous as to be meaningless. It's mostly used by those on the right to justify cutting of social and public works, while they rarely include excessive military & security spending or corporate welfare schemes and tax giveaways in their "big government" complaints.

For example, since Vietnam was largely over by the time he was installed in the White House, did Gerry Ford ever cut the defense budget as he should have advocated for? Not that I'm aware of.

"..the President has submitted a defense budget for 1977 which provides a real increase of $7.4 billion in total obligational authority in defense spending..."

Let's remember too that he had uber-hawks (and career ne'er-do-wells) like Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney shoved so far up his ass he couldn't see straight. So, Ford should be the last one to rattle on about "big government taking everything you have."

 
Context is everything, eh?
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Posted: Mar 13, 2017 - 2:07pm

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Yep.  Its foolish to think that you can trust the government; its your friend and does not have the capabilities that you can imagine.  You can't, it isn't and does have the toys.  If you can imagine some kind of snooping technology, some one has more than likely already made it reality.  Problem is, that most of the things this stuff is designed to corrupt and infiltrate is not being used by the bad guys.  They mostly use old style burner dumb phones (yeah, San Bernardino, but ...) and are unlikely to have a smart TV or appliance hooked up to the net to watch their latest shows or to tell Alexa what to do.  But the good guys, us, do.  This stuff is designed to watch us under the pretense that they are watching "them", those bad guys.

The CIA was already caught once doing domestic spying in my lifetime.  This is the second time.  Once was one time too many.

Once again its time to trot this old one out ...

A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.

Gerald Ford, 38th POTUS.
 

 

The term "big government" is so nebulous as to be meaningless. It's mostly used by those on the right to justify cutting of social and public works, while they rarely include excessive military & security spending or corporate welfare schemes and tax giveaways in their "big government" complaints.

For example, since Vietnam was largely over by the time he was installed in the White House, did Gerry Ford ever cut the defense budget as he should have advocated for? Not that I'm aware of.

"..the President has submitted a defense budget for 1977 which provides a real increase of $7.4 billion in total obligational authority in defense spending..."

Let's remember too that he had uber-hawks (and career ne'er-do-wells) like Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney shoved so far up his ass he couldn't see straight. So, Ford should be the last one to rattle on about "big government taking everything you have."


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