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HazzeSwede

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Posted: Nov 30, 2010 - 8:45am

 Beaker wrote:

fvck Assange.  I'll bet Putin gets to him first.  Wikileaks needs to be blown off the Innerweb.
 
The servers are 5 clicks from my place,just saying ! {#Whistle}
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Posted: Nov 30, 2010 - 8:21am

 Beaker wrote:

A message needs to be sent.  And the way to do that is take out Assange and his followers by any means necessary.  If the current US administration is too chickenshit to do that, then I'm sure there's plenty of others who have little concern about removing Assange and his enterprise from among the living.
 

wow.  just wow.
Mugro

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Posted: Nov 30, 2010 - 8:17am

 Beaker wrote:



Though some heads need to roll too —- allowing that kind of unrestricted access to a relatively low level civilian means there's more to be fixed than one detail.  Of course the apparent fact that this tool smuggled it all out over 8 months on a CDRW also gives an IT security guy quite a bit of pause.

A message needs to be sent.  And the way to do that is take out Assange and his followers by any means necessary.  If the current US administration is too chickenshit to do that, then I'm sure there's plenty of others who have little concern about removing Assange and his enterprise from among the living.
 
There will be a LOT of changes. There have been some already. You can be sure that there will be increased security involved in cable traffic and less sharing of information between State and DoD. These leaks were sourced in the Department of Defense, not State. Until now, there had been sharing of information between State and Defense — the "One Team" approach. Now, not so much. 
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Posted: Nov 30, 2010 - 8:15am

 rosedraws wrote:

cable dump?

and, I assume you mean the ramifications will be negative? 
 

Some ramifications positive (like perhaps finally the fall of the N. Korean regime now that the world knows that China no longer supports them), and some negative (Diplomacy is better than war, if no one can trust diplomacy, there will be more war). 
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Posted: Nov 30, 2010 - 8:04am

 Mugro wrote:
The Wikileaks cable dump will have a game-changing, long term impact on not only U.S. Foreign Policy but that of every country's. There will be ramifications from this act that will be far reaching, many of which are impossible to predict today. 

 
 
cable dump?

and, I assume you mean the ramifications will be negative? 
Mugro

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Posted: Nov 30, 2010 - 7:59am

The Wikileaks cable dump will have a game-changing, long term impact on not only U.S. Foreign Policy but that of every country's. There will be ramifications from this act that will be far reaching, many of which are impossible to predict today. 

 
peter_james_bond

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Posted: Nov 30, 2010 - 6:18am

WikiLeaks is doing us all a favor. Secrecy is a cancer; governments must be held accountable for their actions, but if the public is kept in the dark by those very same governments then democracy suffers. We, the tax payers, pay for these government clowns, we deserve to know what they are up to. Does what they say in public match what they say in private? Governments talk about transparency but it seems to be all talk and no action.

I'm not as articulate as I'd like to be. Bill Moyers, on the other hand has a wonderful way with words. Here is a speech he gave concerning government secrecy. IN THE KINGDOM OF THE HALF-BLIND


HazzeSwede

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Posted: Nov 30, 2010 - 6:10am

 beamends wrote:
I don't think anyone is really surprised, such is the US's reputation around the world. Still, Hillary Clinton jumping up and down like a spoilt brat who's had her ball taken away is fun.

 
{#Yes}  {#Lol}...here,we are mostly concerned about future"diplomatic talks" as in, will there be such a thing and who to trust, if anyone.

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Posted: Nov 30, 2010 - 5:58am

I don't think anyone is really surprised, such is the US's reputation around the world. Still, Hillary Clinton jumping up and down like a spoilt brat who's had her ball taken away is fun.
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Posted: Nov 30, 2010 - 5:12am

Any thoughts on exposing our government's dirty secrets?

Julian Assange Says Document Dump Targets 'Lying, Corrupt and Murderous Leadership'

The chief Wikileaker who the U.S. promised today to
prosecute said his Internet site was just beginning to
unload its diplomatic secrets and said the documents
will skewer "lying, corrupt and murderous leadership
from Bahrain to Brazil."

Julian Assange, the Australian who heads the secret-
sharing Web site, told ABC News today he believes his
safety and freedom are in danger. He responded to
questions by email from a clandestine hideout.

He was undaunted by vows from the U.S. and
Australia to prosecute him and said the forthcoming
diplomatic cables are aimed at "lying, corrupt and
murderous leadership from Bahrain to Brazil."

"We're only one thousandth of the way in and look at
what has so far being revealed. There will be many
more," he wrote defiantly.

Assange also dismissed a warning today by Secretary
of State HillaryClinton who said the dump of secret
documents "puts peoples lives in danger," particularly
those sources who provided the U.S. with information
about abuses in foreign countries.

"U.S. officials have for 50 years trotted out this line
when they are afraid the public is going to see how
they really behave," Assange said in his email. "The
facts are that we wrote to the State Department asking
for a list of any specific concerns that might have.
They refused to assist, and said they demanded
everything, including those documents that revealed
abuses, be destroyed."


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