Could we please just let this thread die? 

Brandog- would you be an angel and just change the thread title to a space or a full stop or something and then let it drop off the thread? 

 Beaker wrote: 
Actually, churches are forbidden from taking political opinions to the pulpit, or they jeopardize their tax exempt status, but it doesn't seem to be enforced. Esp during the Bush administration, it actually was encouraged.

The reason that there are not really any Left Wing nuts is that most of the Left don't have that kind of personality. In general they believe in peace, love and inclusion, not hatred, exclusion and violence, although I am sure there are exceptions, such as Rev Wright.

Never once did I wish anyone in the Bush Administration any harm. For one thing, if something happened to W, the Dick would REALLY be in charge, and that would have been much worse.

 samiyam wrote: 
If I did a bonghit my head would explode - Oh, crap I have to go puree another lemon

Can't we all just get a bong?

 Beaker wrote: 
OH, there's you, and probably the KKK, you know, people like you.

And, I can say the above without even feeling a little bit bad about it  - you've been around here long enough - I've read your opinions on race, disability, gender, immigration, etc., - IMO you are one of the most inhumane, heartless people I never ever want to meet.

Expression of opinion is a good thing - differing opinions create new matrices of ideas BUT, when you start supporting terrorism, Trevor, you become a terrorist.  But, in your case, that's sort of OK; at least we know you're sitting on your ass somewhere making useless noise, and not actually killing people.

Defending that man by saying "Well, people threatened The Shrub so, it's OK to pray for Obama to die and go to Hell."  is fallacious - how do you think Jesus would consider your attitude?  I don't even care that he prays to some nonexistent God to kill somebody - it's that he's using a satellite soapbox and trying to activate some knucklehead(s) out there to "Do God's Work."  Same as it ever was...

 winter wrote: 
thank you..

i was making a ref to the rev wright thing..

if you want to get attention....say something outrageous....no matter how rural or provincial...
tempe ain't chicago...

way to go msnbc....dropped the ball a bit on rev wright.

 Beaker wrote:Translation: Let's see if I can divert the topic by pointing fingers at the person who brought up my own hypocrisy.

 winter wrote: 

Don't even joke about that man...They are out there and they are watching...

 Beaker wrote: 
Beaker, I'm an atheist preacher's kid. The church I grew up in was nothing like what is shown on TV. I don't have the patience to watch preachers now. I watched the clip of Jeremiah Wright. Some of what he said is out there (the government knew about Pearl Harbor?) but some of it isn't (Uh, Tuskegee??) and I have to say that a lot of what Wright said isn't that far off-base. I watched the video three times. Take the delivery as you will; it is charismatic. The pastor who prayed for Obama's death is probably a charismatic speaker too.

I think I'll stop here. It's late, and Jonesy is trying to sit on the laptop. Go ahead and shoot down everything I've said. Good night.

 arsenault wrote: 
Not exactly a small town: it's a suburb of Phoenix with over 100,000 residents, and it's home to Arizona State University.

That said, it's a little storefront church. Send ten reporters and you've probably doubled their attendance. Doesn't justify hateful behavior, but even here they're getting more attention than they deserve.

You can walk down the street in any major city and hear whackaloons preaching about the Illuminati or the CFR or the leprechaun-unicorn cabal controlling the world. We don't make a big deal about it. We don't pretend they're any part of the political process. They have a right to their free speech, however irrational or ridiculous or offensive. And we have every right to ignore them as irrelevant crackpots. 

 zipper wrote: 
he would have been fine if he had said 'god damn america'
plus, how far did they have to go to find him?...tempe arizona?..not chicago illinois..

 Beaker wrote: 
Let me count the ways in which hypocrisy can be justified...

 Beaker wrote: 

Topic	Posts	Author	Last Post
LeftWingNutZ	15	Beaker

Can you say 'hypocrite'?

 Beaker wrote: 
No, you didn't. I've never heard Jeremiah Wright preach, but as far as I know, he didn't call for the death of George W. Bush. As for the rest of of it, I'm going to claim ignorance. YES. Ignorance. Just as I didn't care what John McCain's, or in the past, John Kerry's, or G.W. Bush's, or Al Gore's, or (insert any former candidate for president) 's pastor said, I don't really care what Barack Obama's pastor said.

No, really. I don't care.

Double standard? Maybe. Perhaps I only wake up when a pastor wishes for the death of another human being (how Christian!).

 Beaker wrote: 
Hey muppet! Howzit hangin'?

 Beaker wrote: 
If your buddies didn't spew forth this kind of Hate, it wouldn't be available to post.

 Beaker wrote: 
Pastors are different when they bring politics to the pulpit. Forgive me for holding pastors to a higher standard.

 brandog wrote:Pastor Steve Anderson is a Hater. 
Those who rush to his defense are, likewise, Haters.
Look around, there are Haters everywhere.

 Beaker wrote: 
Hey Beaker, I don't want to fight with you, but did it occur to you that maybe he felt like it fit in with the thread topic?

 zipper wrote: 
I dunno. Did any pastors publicly pray for GW Bush's death?