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Posted: Jun 28, 2023 - 12:01pm

I think guy has the Hunter thing (not Thing) figured out.
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Posted: Jun 28, 2023 - 10:07am

 kurtster wrote:

It has been said that consistency is the refuge of the mediocre ...


That's not what was said.  The quote from Emerson is "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
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Posted: Jun 28, 2023 - 9:42am

 kurtster wrote:

It has been said that consistency is the refuge of the mediocre ...


Yeah, but if they say it over and over again…
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Posted: Jun 28, 2023 - 8:37am

 kurtster wrote:

It has been said that consistency is the refuge of the mediocre ...


Speaking of teeing them up...


If you never stop being a crazy conspiracy theorist, or posting misinformation, I'll never stop calling you out on it (I will get tired now and then and take a break, but I'll be back).

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Posted: Jun 28, 2023 - 8:37am

 kcar wrote:
It's really tired, Kurt. And btw: Trump is not a hero or a drainer of The Swamp. He is an incompetent, foolish, cowardly and desperate child. 

Well said on your other points kcar.

FYI, I don't think kurt has set a high bar when it comes to heroes. 
 
..if there is even a bar at all.

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Posted: Jun 28, 2023 - 8:22am

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 Beaker wrote:
  Predictable.  As always. Never change.  There's something old-school charming in being reliable.
Not so sure that making fun of consistency is a selling point. 
 
It has been said that consistency is the refuge of the mediocre ...
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Posted: Jun 28, 2023 - 8:14am

 Beaker wrote:
  Predictable.  As always.

Never change.  There's something old-school charming in being reliable.


Not so sure that making fun of consistency is a selling point. 
islander

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Posted: Jun 28, 2023 - 6:38am

 Beaker wrote:



  Predictable.  As always.

Never change.  There's something old-school charming in being reliable.


You keep teeing them up and we'll keep swinging at them.

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Posted: Jun 27, 2023 - 11:43pm

 kcar wrote:
 because you're very selective with the facts you provide to support your claims—when you provide facts. You unfailingly support a very sick, depraved, amoral narcissist who would happily destroy American democracy to get and hold onto power. 
 

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Posted: Jun 27, 2023 - 11:26pm

Six Witnesses Can Reportedly Back Up Allegations AG Garland Is Lying About Biden Prosecutor

Six witnesses can reportedly back up claims that the federal prosecutor investigating Hunter Biden lacked the full authority to prosecute the First Son outside of Delaware, contradicting testimony stating otherwise from Attorney General Merrick Garland.

Shapely testified that Weiss announced he was “not the deciding official” on whether charges were filed against Hunter Biden and that DC US Attorney Matthew Graves refused to allow charges to be brought against the First Son in his district. That, according to Shapely, meant that Biden would not be prosecuted for tax charges related to “foreign income from Burisma [Holdings] and a scheme to evade his income taxes through a partnership with a convicted felon” in 2014 and 2015.

This revelation contradicts Garland’s testimony, which stated that Weiss, a Trump administration appointee, was at liberty to criminally charge Hunter Biden in whatever jurisdiction he deemed appropriate.

“He is the supervisor of this investigation,” Garland said of Weiss, telling Republican Tennessee Sen. Bill Hagerty in April 2022, “we put the investigation in the hands of a Trump appointee from the previous administration, who is the US attorney for the district of Delaware, and … you have me as the attorney general, who is committed to the independence of the Justice Department from any influence from the White House in criminal matters,” the New York Post reported.



Freeze Hunter’s plea deal until we know which prosecutors lied to save him

Either Delaware US Attorney David Weiss was lying to the IRS team investigating Hunter Biden, or Attorney General Merrick Garland lied to Congress.

Either way, Justice Department fumbling has already let Hunter escape justice for several years of tax crimes.

Which means the judge overseeing his potential plea deal must wait until Congress can get to the bottom of this mess.

According to whistleblower Gary Shapley, Weiss in January 2022 sought to indict Hunter on felony charges for 2014 tax evasion (and misdemeanor charges for 2015) on his windfall from Ukraine — but then told the team he couldn’t, because US Attorney for DC Matthew Graves (a President Biden appointee who had jurisdiction because that was Hunter’s legal residence in those years) wouldn’t go along.

So the statute of limitations expired, and so (in Shapley’s words) the Biden Justice Department “sanitized the most substantive criminal conduct” in Hunter’s case.



By the way, as for Weiss: News accounts routinely call him a “Trump appointee,” but he’d become acting US attorney under President Barack Obama; Trump merely went with the guy already in the job. He’s a Delaware insider, not a Trumpie.
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Posted: Jun 27, 2023 - 11:00pm

 kurtster wrote:
Sorry it took so long to get back on this.

The fact check link for FALSE curiously dates back to when the Biden laptop story surfaced right before the voting. You know, the one that was censored into the next two years. The one that got the second largest circulating newspaper in the country deplatformed from Twitter for publishing Russian disinformation. Done by the same people who lied about about and participated in the disinformation campaign saying that the laptop was Russian disinformation.

The same people who lied to you about the Steele dossier being factual. The same people who lied to you about Trump being a Russian agent. The same people who said that 51 spooks prove that the Biden laptop story was BS. The same people who were caught cozying up to the intelligence community putting forth the propaganda to mislead voters about about facts in the past several elections, as revealed by The Twitter Files.

You all used this story way back when the first time. A lot has changed since then. We know way much more that has been proved to be true about the Biden family mafia than even could be imagined then back when this so called Fact Check article was published. Yet you still believe that The Steele dossier is real. Biden's laptop is fake. Trump colluded with Putin. Joe did not speak to Hunter about anything. The Biden family is transparent, honest and not corrupt. And that the FBI and DOJ are still trustworthy, unbiased and above reproach.

And lastly, you state that me stating stuff like this damages my credibility. I am and have been under the impression from all of you that I have no credibility on anything for years. So you restore my credibility just so you can attack it and take it away again ? How stupid do you think I am ? I mean really, WTF are you all smoking, cuz it's way better than what I have.

"Sorry it took so long to get back on this."

You haven't done anyone a favor by doing so. 

I am not going to re-hash and debunk your old, tired claims. Again: Hunter's laptop was never going to be a major factor in the 2020 campaign. People were upset by Covid, deaths, an economy that had cratered, the lack of vaccines, etc. 

What happened to Gym Jordan's investigation into Biden and family? That kinda faded away quietly. Burisma did too. Again: Biden as VP pushed for the removal of the Ukrainian AG because he wasn't working hard enough against corruption. Biden made that ultimatum with Obama's approval and the approval of other Western leaders. The Ukrainian investigation into Burisma at that point IIRC had already concluded. 

I never believed that the Steele dossier was entirely factual. Steele himself presented it as a gathering of rumors and hearsay. IG Horowitz and others have shown it was not the basis into the FBI's investigation into the Trump campaigns dealing with Russians. 

"And lastly, you state that me stating stuff like this damages my credibility. I am and have been under the impression from all of you that I have no credibility on anything for years."

That's because you conflate fact with rumor and conspiracy thinking and support only pro-Trump ideas. When Trump yelled about "Obamagate" being bigger than Watergate, you were carrying his water and parroting his words. When Trump talked up Durham's investigation into the FBI and I compared  you to Linus being stuck on Halloween in the pumpkin patch waiting for the Great Pumpkin, you assured us all that, Wait And See, Heads will roll

And then you trot out the old debunked ideas, re-hash them and serve them up as part of a bigger, nastier awfuller conspiracy theory that is going to blow up and destroy Biden and Clinton and Obama and the FBI/DOJ cabal

"The Biden Crime family!" Dude, have you been keeping up with the legal troubles the Trump family is facing? 

But you are quiet as a church mouse about Trump's legal troubles. The willful retention and display of classified information to unauthorized individuals, the attempt to dishonestly alter the vote results in GA (checked and verified THREE TIMES before that phone call with Raffensperger), the attempts to do the same in other battleground states, the attempt to create fake electors, the attempt to have the DOJ declare the election result invalid, the incitement of a violent crowd to stop the formal electoral vote count, the failure to stop the rioting for three hours, the multiple acts of tax fraud, 

ETC. ETC ETC. 

Posters here have in the past verbally attacked you because you're very selective with the facts you provide to support your claims—when you provide facts. You unfailingly support a very sick, depraved, amoral narcissist who would happily destroy American democracy to get and hold onto power. 

Frankly, I think you seek out negative attention when you post about politics. You seem to see yourself as a righteous martyr against blinded, arrogant and hostile captives to a leftist political establishment. 

It's really tired, Kurt. And btw: Trump is not a hero or a drainer of The Swamp. He is an incompetent, foolish, cowardly and desperate child. 
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Posted: Jun 27, 2023 - 9:59pm

 islander wrote:


Nothing says your winning an argument like responding to yourself when your nonsense post doesn't get any traction.



  Predictable.  As always.

Never change.  There's something old-school charming in being reliable.
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Posted: Jun 27, 2023 - 9:29pm

 kcar wrote:
 rgio wrote:

That's FALSE You're confused with  Trump Nothing Lauren Boebert does would concern Biden.  Republicans will do nothing these 2 years with the house that isn't Kabuki.  
Kurt, that crap about Joe pushing to get a Ukrainian prosecutor fired because he was supposedly investigating Burisma too hard is still crap. It was debunked a long time ago. When you regurgitate BS like this you really damage your credibility. It really does feel like Whac-a-mole with you.
 
Sorry it took so long to get back on this.

The fact check link for FALSE curiously dates back to when the Biden laptop story surfaced right before the voting.  You know, the one that was censored into the next two years.  The one that got the second largest circulating newspaper in the country deplatformed from Twitter for publishing Russian disinformation.  Done by the same people who lied about about and participated in the disinformation campaign saying that the laptop was Russian disinformation.

The same people who lied to you about the Steele dossier being factual.  The same people who lied to you about Trump being a Russian agent.  The same people who said that 51 spooks prove that the Biden laptop story was BS.  The same people who were caught cozying up to the intelligence community putting forth the propaganda to mislead voters about about facts in the past several elections, as revealed by The Twitter Files.

You all used this story way back when the first time.  A lot has changed since then.  We know way much more that has been proved to be true about the Biden family mafia than even could be imagined then back when this so called Fact Check article was published.  Yet you still believe that The Steele dossier is real.  Biden's laptop is fake. Trump colluded with Putin. Joe did not speak to Hunter about anything. The Biden family is transparent, honest and not corrupt.  And that the FBI and DOJ are still trustworthy, unbiased and above reproach.

And lastly, you state that me stating stuff like this damages my credibility.  I am and have been under the impression from all of you that I have no credibility on anything for years.  So you restore my credibility just so you can attack it and take it away again ?  How stupid do you think I am ?  I mean really, WTF are you all smoking, cuz it's way better than what I have.
islander

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Posted: Jun 27, 2023 - 9:21pm

 kcar wrote:


Beaker, your moment of brutal self-assessment is quite refreshing but don't be so hard on yourself. We'll do that for you! 



Nothing says your winning an argument like responding to yourself when your nonsense post doesn't get any traction.
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Posted: Jun 27, 2023 - 9:18pm

 Beaker wrote:

Because getting lost in the noise is the same as being "stuck on stupid".  (credit: Lieutenant General Russel Honore)



Beaker, your moment of brutal self-assessment is quite refreshing but don't be so hard on yourself. We'll do that for you! 

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Posted: Jun 27, 2023 - 3:27pm

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Just how dirty are Joe & Hunter ?  Here's the deets on their infamous escapade in Ukraine, from William Shipley aka Shipwreckedcrew  — " a "Retired" AUSA 22+ years, last 8 as a criminal defense attorney".

Read the entire thread.



Because getting lost in the noise is the same as being "stuck on stupid".  (credit: Lieutenant General Russel Honore)

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Posted: Jun 27, 2023 - 3:24pm

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Being obtuse doesn't suit you, BTW. Obviously the point is that any story about kids Ivanka and Jared is much more important if you're looking for abuse of the Presidential position, since they were installed into the White House as "senior advisors" and Hunter was never in a similar position.

And, trying to squelch any criticism by calling it names like "loud" or "angry" lets us know that you're out of ammo. Because Hunter is a thing, but not a Thing.


Pardon?  What were you saying?  

Insiders — and Hunter himself — say scandal-clad first son is Joe Biden’s ‘closest adviser’
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Posted: Jun 27, 2023 - 3:07pm

 rgio wrote:
So you support US-backed regime change (in Cuba and Venezuela)?

No. At least not direct regime change. The US hegemon must realize that some countries fall apart largely for reasons that are disconnected from US policy and that there is little that the US state can directly do to effective constructive regime change.  That change must come from within.

In the case of Cuba, the US state can indirectly help by lifting all sanctions and restrictions and completely unleashing the flood gates of tourism, cultural exchanges, family visits, investment and trade. Within a decade or two, I would expect the Cuban communist party/regime to implode under its own weight.

In the case of Venezuela, the US hegemon should explicitly recognize that Venezuelans democratically chose this misery for themselves, maintain full relations and allow exceptionally talented and reasonably transparent and accountable world-class US-based multinational corporations to continue operating in Venezuela.

In the case of Venezuela, policy should have targeted helping Venezuelan political and economic refugees in neighbouring Latin American countries, and publicly lamenting the humanitarian disaster caused by the Chavistas.   

Will it (the demonization of China and aggressive reshoring) impede solving those problems (deep economic structural challenges, health problems and the opioid epidemic)?

Yes.  The US state and US political elites have a nasty habit of distracting Americans from difficult domestic policy issues with misleading and often self-destructive foreign policy narratives.  

Perhaps you and others can inform us as to what the USA will gain by losing what influence and leverage it has over China.    At the same time, please explain to me how the USA will fix China by hurting itself.     Or do the laws of economics and international relations not apply when President Biden is in power?  




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Posted: Jun 27, 2023 - 1:26pm

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Using your logic, Ivanka and Jared were never elected officials either!  Sucks about double standards, no?

Anyways.  Always fun to see the loudest and angriest are good at regurgitating the nastiest of stories and innuendo, while failing to engage even basic levels of skepticism, nor do the simplest of own research.

Being obtuse doesn't suit you, BTW. Obviously the point is that any story about kids Ivanka and Jared is much more important if you're looking for abuse of the Presidential position, since they were installed into the White House as "senior advisors" and Hunter was never in a similar position.

And, trying to squelch any criticism by calling it names like "loud" or "angry" lets us know that you're out of ammo. Because Hunter is a thing, but not a Thing.
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Posted: Jun 27, 2023 - 8:12am

 Beaker wrote:



  Using your logic, Ivanka and Jared were never elected officials either!  Sucks about double standards, no?

Anyways.  Always fun to see the loudest and angriest are good at regurgitating the nastiest of stories and innuendo, while failing to engage even basic levels of skepticism, nor do the simplest of own research.

Now don't read this link below  ... it likely won't fit your worldview.

Fact Check: Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner Did NOT Earn $640 Million From White House Jobs

Meanwhile, the wheels of justice continue to slowly turn.

The article more fits Steely's worldview than it does yours. From the article: "Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump reported between $172 million and $640 million in outside income while working in the White House". Everyone knows that advisor salaries don't rise to that level. Are you going to make the case that that amount ($172 million and $640 million) was not at all impacted based on trading on the influence of the positions that they held? The article you link to certainly doesn't try to debunk that.   

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