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Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 24, 2022 - 9:05am

 black321 wrote:

Maybe at best they stopped the slide. Certainly haven't done much to bring the country together.


That’s the usual position that Democrats find themselves in, right? Obama had to fix the financial devastation left by his predecessor. Biden is having to do the same. It’s a pattern.
Republican policies are responsible for damage, than Democrats come in and try to help fix it and are called incompetent. “Look how they’re failing.” 
The kid tears up his room, and the parent has to pick it up. 


black321

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Posted: Jan 24, 2022 - 8:25am

 Steely_D wrote:


Sure I can. He got handed a country estranged from its allies, a weird deal struck in Afghanistan, an economy where the rich got a tax break, a pandemic that will go away in the spring like magic, a split-in-two America that the former guy encouraged, and a Supreme Court that was rigged. The car was already off the road and on the shoulder and then it started pouring virus-soaked rain. Half the drivers refused to turn on their wipers. 

And oh, boo hoo, Biden didn’t meet the Republicans’ expectations.


So the country was going to hell in a bucket...and what are we doing about it?
I suppose if you don't believe in fiscal responsibility, then  throwing trillions of $ out the window is a plan.
I don't see how democratic leadership has provided any solutions. Maybe at best they stopped the slide. Certainly haven't done much to bring the country together.
And thank goodness for the two democrats who actually seem to have enough marbles to stop the runaway, partisan nonsense.
Didn't Manchin's approval rating shoot up? Does that mean anything?
We need more folks on both sides willing to remove themselves from the tyranny of their own parties, for the good of the country.

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Posted: Jan 23, 2022 - 7:36pm

 Steely_D wrote:


Sure I can. He got handed a country estranged from its allies, a weird deal struck in Afghanistan, an economy where the rich got a tax break, a pandemic that will go away in the spring like magic, a split-in-two America that the former guy encouraged, and a Supreme Court that was rigged. The car was already off the road and on the shoulder and then it started pouring virus-soaked rain. Half the drivers refused to turn on their wipers. 

And oh, boo hoo, Biden didn’t meet the Republicans’ expectations.


You forgot a slight majority in the senate that turned out not to be a democratic majority afterall
Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 23, 2022 - 7:04pm

 black321 wrote:

Maybe. But you cant argue against Biden being incompetent. 



Sure I can. He got handed a country estranged from its allies, a weird deal struck in Afghanistan, an economy where the rich got a tax break, a pandemic that will go away in the spring like magic, a split-in-two America that the former guy encouraged, and a Supreme Court that was rigged. The car was already off the road and on the shoulder and then it started pouring virus-soaked rain. Half the drivers refused to turn on their wipers. 

And oh, boo hoo, Biden didn’t meet the Republicans’ expectations.
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Posted: Jan 23, 2022 - 5:00pm

 kurtster wrote:


In the face of omicron, which is screwing up the supply chain all around the word, what could he have done better? Show your work.

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Posted: Jan 23, 2022 - 4:46pm

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Posted: Jan 23, 2022 - 3:40pm

 HarleyRider wrote:

Jan 22 marked one year exactly since Joe Biden took office as the 46th president of the US and it's been a rough 365 days. In a press conference on Jan 21, his first in 10 months and just the second of his presidency, Biden attempted what the media has begun referring to as a "reset," a desperate new effort to persuade us to support his leadership and policies even as a record number now disapprove of his presidency. But while Biden did not have much success on resetting the direction of his administration, here are five reasons why Biden's presidency has gone so poorly and was likely doomed from the very beginning. 1) Biden can't admit when he is wrong and blames everyone else when things go south. 2) Biden made a corrupt bargain with the radical left and surrendered his presidency to them before it even started. 3) Biden's campaign was built on lies. 4) Biden's "Mr. Nice guy" persona has been revealed as the sham it always was. 5) Biden is an incompetent leader, and has always been regarded as such by those around him.


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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 23, 2022 - 2:51pm

 black321 wrote:

Maybe. But you cant argue against Biden being incompetent. 



I'll take incompetent over malevolent any day.
black321

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Posted: Jan 23, 2022 - 2:14pm

 Steely_D wrote:


I guess you don’t/can’t see how that’s all incredibly speculative and emotional. And that’s a usual GOP tactic.

There’s no way to speak for the others, but it seems to me that it’s more grown up to review actual facts like: did he appoint one or more of his children to White House staff?
Did he meet with our enemies in Russia and North Korea and then speak highly of them? 
Did he file for bankruptcy?
Six times
Did he have to pay off a woman while having an affair with his then-pregnant third wife?
And, when the nation’s Capitol was under attack did he sit on his ass watching it on TV instead of acting?

See, those are factual things that can help us understand the quality of a person sitting in the President’s big boy chair, not this idle “everybody hates him; they’re all saying it.”



Maybe. But you cant argue against Biden being incompetent. 

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 23, 2022 - 2:08pm

 Steely_D wrote:


I guess you don’t/can’t see how that’s all incredibly speculative and emotional. And that’s a usual GOP tactic.

There’s no way to speak for the others, but it seems to me that it’s more grown up to review actual facts like: did he appoint one or more of his children to White House staff?
Did he meet with our enemies in Russia and North Korea and then speak highly of them? 
Did he file for bankruptcy?
Six times
Did he have to pay off a woman while having an affair with his then-pregnant third wife?
And, when the nation’s Capitol was under attack did he sit on his ass watching it on TV instead of acting?

See, those are factual things that can help us understand the quality of a person sitting in the President’s big boy chair, not this idle “everybody hates him; they’re all saying it.”












Facts aren't what matter here, you know.
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Posted: Jan 23, 2022 - 11:59am

 HarleyRider wrote:

1) Biden can't admit when he is wrong and blames everyone else when things go south. 2) Biden made a corrupt bargain with the radical left and surrendered his presidency to them before it even started. 3) Biden's campaign was built on lies. 4) Biden's "Mr. Nice guy" persona has been revealed as the sham it always was. 5) Biden is an incompetent leader, and has always been regarded as such by those around him.



I guess you don’t/can’t see how that’s all incredibly speculative and emotional. And that’s a usual GOP tactic.

There’s no way to speak for the others, but it seems to me that it’s more grown up to review actual facts like: did he appoint one or more of his children to White House staff?
Did he meet with our enemies in Russia and North Korea and then speak highly of them? 
Did he file for bankruptcy?
Six times
Did he have to pay off a woman while having an affair with his then-pregnant third wife?
And, when the nation’s Capitol was under attack did he sit on his ass watching it on TV instead of acting?

See, those are factual things that can help us understand the quality of a person sitting in the President’s big boy chair, not this idle “everybody hates him; they’re all saying it.”










HarleyRider



Posted: Jan 23, 2022 - 9:50am

 steeler wrote:
 rgio wrote:

So as gun sales have skyrocketed the past year along with crime, the best way to protect ourselves is by electing people who want to increase access and mobility for weapons?   The "more guns, less crime" notion has proven so wrong the past few years that the author of the 2015 study the Right/NRA pointed to has changed his position.  The notion of "good guys with guns reduce crime" lacks any proof. If you wanted to protect everyone, eliminating guns is the best way.  Look at any other country on the planet if you need proof.  The more guns...the more death.  

Archie Bunker:

"I could end the skyjackings tomorrow. All you gotta do is arm all your passengers. If they know the passengers are armed, they know they have no ‘ superiority ' there. He ain't gonna dare to pull out no rod. And then your airlines, then they wouldn’t have to search the passengers on the ground no more, they just pass out the pistols at the beginning of the trip, and they pick ‘em up again at the end. Case closed.”

 
Put hardened career criminals in jail for extended periods and fix our broken penitentiary network. Keep first time criminals away from career criminals. Keep crazy mentally insane people out of main stream society and put them back in asylums and give them the help that they need. Don't turn them out on the streets and have unsuspecting public be subjected to their violent tendencies. Fix our broken public school system to teach respect, self diligence, and the academics and stop trying to social engineer out kids. Go after dealers of hard drugs and lock them up, don't give them any bail or parole. Give more support to victims of crime and not to the suspects and perpetrators of crime.
HarleyRider



Posted: Jan 23, 2022 - 9:37am

Jan 22 marked one year exactly since Joe Biden took office as the 46th president of the US and it's been a rough 365 days. In a press conference on Jan 21, his first in 10 months and just the second of his presidency, Biden attempted what the media has begun referring to as a "reset," a desperate new effort to persuade us to support his leadership and policies even as a record number now disapprove of his presidency. But while Biden did not have much success on resetting the direction of his administration, here are five reasons why Biden's presidency has gone so poorly and was likely doomed from the very beginning. 1) Biden can't admit when he is wrong and blames everyone else when things go south. 2) Biden made a corrupt bargain with the radical left and surrendered his presidency to them before it even started. 3) Biden's campaign was built on lies. 4) Biden's "Mr. Nice guy" persona has been revealed as the sham it always was. 5) Biden is an incompetent leader, and has always been regarded as such by those around him.
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Posted: Jan 21, 2022 - 3:26pm

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His approval ratings/re-election chances are directly linked to Inflation, fair or otherwise. .....

Inflation might be part of it.   As you imply, Biden is not responsible for ramping up inflation rates, and even the FED is not entirely responsible though it failed to start tightening monetary policy in early 2021 and that certainly contributed to these higher inflation rates. The pandemic is largely responsible for the higher measured rates of inflation.

The pandemic is taking a toll on political leaders in many countries.   That started before inflation shot up. 

The other reason for Biden's unpopularity is high fuel costs.   By early 2023,  inflation could easily subside to the mid- 2% range but I fully expect oil prices to remain high.  



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Posted: Jan 21, 2022 - 7:00am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


His approval ratings/re-election chances are directly linked to Inflation, fair or otherwise. By the looks of things I don't see that getting better in time to help him or the Dems. Personally if he can get a Climate bill thru I would consider his presidency a reasonably successful one. But I would also welcome a fresher face as the 2024 election gets closer.
rgio

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Posted: Jan 20, 2022 - 8:25am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
The good news for Joe, the only person since 1945 with a worse rating on day 366 looks like the Republican nominee in 2024.


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 20, 2022 - 7:43am

Biden approval hits new low at one-year mark: AP-NORC poll
black321

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Posted: Jan 6, 2022 - 9:20am

 Steely_D wrote:

Well, I start by calling out a culture that thinks it's OK to loot and laze. Maybe that's the rich too but I'm thinking of the poor, desperate to have something when they have nothing or eager to take something when they have no skills because they're not trying.




Got it.
So where are the answers?
Back to fundamentals - giving everyone the opportunity of roof, bowl of soup, and for the future, a solid education?
To the latter, where is the balance between career orientation and real knowledge/enlightenment? 
Schools, those bastions of liberal communist whackjobs (tongue in cheek), appear still too focused on tests, and cramming students into career buckets of dr, lawyer, businessman, engineer. 
Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 6, 2022 - 8:41am

 black321 wrote:


good posts, but is your point it's all on the rich then?


Well, I start by calling out a culture that thinks it's OK to loot and laze. Maybe that's the rich too but I'm thinking of the poor, desperate to have something when they have nothing or eager to take something when they have no skills because they're not trying.


black321

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Posted: Jan 6, 2022 - 6:41am

 Steely_D wrote:


Totally misses the point. That’s the result of bad thinking: uh oh, better shoot everyone!
The right way to approach this is cultural - why do people think it’s OK to loot, cheat, laze about? Who has moral authority any more to really convince people to behave like we’re in a society, instead of a winner-take-all old west? It certainly wasn’t Trump, who never - ever - looked out for the people in our society who weren’t given a fair shake (because helping someone that’s not you, well that’s socialism/communism my boy, and everyone knows the only thing good for people is capitalism).

Although, look back at revolutions. They happen because the rich over tax, over work the poor. Then the poor rise up.
Except now the rich have precedent to learn from. So instead of allowing people to figure, on their own, that the rich are the problem - they have spent an awful lot of time and some money to tell us that it’s 
1) the immigrants 
2) the colored 
3) the poor 
4) the scientists 
5) the non-Christians 
6) the hippies
7) the gays
8) the socialists
9) the media 
who are keeping them miserable, and not the rich at all. 
And how will you folks fix it for all of us? Second Amendment Remedies! And the rich will sit back and watch from one of their homes…





good posts, but is your point it's all on the rich then?
certainly, there are strong arguments as to how much better life is today because of the rich, the capital they generate, the investments they make, jobs they create...
maybe, just maybe the problem is all the above? 
sure, there are the trouble makers at the extreme who flame the fires, but what about the apathetic masses in the middle?
so it's you, me, them...
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