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Jul 8, 2024 - 3:17pm |
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kurtster wrote:
There, fixed the statement. Better now ?
From you link.
A conviction is an adjudication of a criminal defendantâs guilt
The adjudication part is when the judge makes their final determination ... which has not happened and to paraphrase the judge (cuz I'm not going to spend time looking for the actual quote), may not happen ...
Here is the support for my remarks about convictions
Lawyer â President Trump is not actually a convicted felon. Media outlets should be careful.
Wait, your unequivocal support for your position is a statement by Trump's lawyer. Well, that seals it then! No bias in that source.
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Jul 8, 2024 - 3:16pm |
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kurtster wrote:
So is Trump a convicted felon or not as we sit here right now ?
Is it premature or not ?
That is what matters as the lust here to call Trump a "convicted felon" is at a fever pitch.
conviction - A judgment of guilt against a criminal defendant.
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Jul 8, 2024 - 3:08pm |
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steeler wrote:This debate is really about semantics. The jury issued its verdict of guilty on all 34 felony counts. The judge can accept or reject a jury verdict. The judge enters a judgment. Trump has been granted leave to file a motion to set aside the jury verdict based on the Supreme Court immunity decision. It is possible that the judge will set aside the jury’s verdict and enter a judgment of acquittal. The motion will be briefed. That is why the judge delayed sentencing. So is Trump a convicted felon or not as we sit here right now ? Is it premature or not ? That is what matters as the lust here to call Trump a "convicted felon" is at a fever pitch.
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Jul 8, 2024 - 2:59pm |
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This debate is really about semantics.
The jury issued its verdict of guilty on all 34 felony counts.
The judge can accept or reject a jury verdict. The judge enters a judgment.
Trump has been granted leave to file a motion to set aside the jury verdict based on the Supreme Court immunity decision.
It is possible that the judge will set aside the juryâs verdict and enter a judgment of acquittal. The motion will be briefed. That is why the judge delayed sentencing.
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Jul 8, 2024 - 2:34pm |
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Beaker wrote:KJP getting absolutely hammered in today's WH press briefing. Time to earn your paycheck Karine. Yep. I wanted to watch this one but took a nap instead. I missed a real doozy. She is being hammered about a NYT article about a Parkinson's specialist visiting the WH 8 times in 8 months. One visit is a nothing. 8 in 8 months ? There is a there there that we need to know about. She claims that this is news to her and it went downhill from there. So Biden is having hallucinations typical with Parkinson's ? Explains a lot about those staring episodes ... Trump was threatened with the 25th for far less "evidence".
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Jul 8, 2024 - 2:28pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote: kurtster wrote: It was laughed at by everyone (who bothered to comment) then.
I missed it; is it too late to laugh at it now? It's true-ish that a conviction without a sentence is nothing, but conviction is when the gavel comes down "guilty." Sentencing is a different matter. https://www.law.cornell.edu/we... There, fixed the statement. Better now ? From you link. A conviction is an adjudication of a criminal defendant’s guilt The adjudication part is when the judge makes their final determination ... which has not happened and to paraphrase the judge (cuz I'm not going to spend time looking for the actual quote), may not happen ... Here is the support for my remarks about convictions Lawyer — President Trump is not actually a convicted felon. Media outlets should be careful.I spent a fair amount of time researching the meaning of adjudication regarding the Trump case where he was adjudicated a rapist by the judge, in conflict with the jury's finding of sexual abuse in the case. The judge inserted his opinion, not fact in making his finding. That is a very important distinction which everyone (who posts on the subject) ignores. They want to call him a convicted rapist. Jury finds Trump liable for sexual abuse, awards accuser $5M
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Jul 8, 2024 - 12:30pm |
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KJP getting absolutely hammered in today's WH press briefing. Time to earn your paycheck Karine.
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Jul 8, 2024 - 10:07am |
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kurtster wrote:
You forgot that he is yet to be a convicted felon. That is not unequivocal.
That only comes with a sentencing, which as of now has been delayed and may not even happen.
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Why wouldn't Trump get convicted? Merchan delayed the sentencing date until September. Newspapers and pundits are speculating Merchan did this to prevent the Supreme Court from hearing Trump' appeal before the election.
There was claim from Trump's lawyers IIRC that Merchan was compromised because he had a conversation durinig the case with a NY real estate developer or lawyer (can't remember which) but Merchan denied that this conversation ever took place and the story seems to have died....
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Jul 8, 2024 - 9:21am |
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kurtster wrote:
Correct. Hunter is also not a convicted felon for the same reason. I posted the support for this several days ago.
It was laughed at by everyone then. Either you missed it or forgot about it already.
Doesn't natter. You also missed Joe's real state of mind as well.
You are still laughed at. When everybody else is found guilty in a court of law they are considered "convicted". That has to be a prerequisite to being sentenced. One doesn't happen without the other and the two don't happen concurrently. If you want to find someone out there who says differently and hang your hat on it. Go for it. I don't hear anyone else making this argument. It's really pathetic but predictable how you will contort yourself to try and deflect anything negative involving Trump.
If not having to admit he was convicted because you found someone else who said so will help you sleep easier at night...
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Jul 8, 2024 - 9:10am |
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kurtster wrote:
It was laughed at by everyone then.
I missed it; is it too late to laugh at it now?
It's true-ish that a conviction without a sentence is nothing, but conviction is when the gavel comes down "guilty." Sentencing is a different matter. https://www.law.cornell.edu/we...
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Jul 8, 2024 - 7:02am |
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VV wrote: kurtster wrote: You forgot that he is yet to be a convicted felon. That is not unequivocal. That only comes with a sentencing, which as of now has been delayed and may not even happen.
He is a convicted felon. Doesn't one have to be convicted in order to be sentenced? The one has to precede the other. So, because he's not yet sentenced, he doesn't have a criminal record at this point in time as well? So then Hunter Biden is also not convicted? Give me a break pretzel-boy. They are both convicted. End of story. Correct. Hunter is also not a convicted felon for the same reason. I posted the support for this several days ago. It was laughed at by everyone then. Either you missed it or forgot about it already. Doesn't natter. You also missed Joe's real state of mind as well.
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Jul 8, 2024 - 5:23am |
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kurtster wrote:
You forgot that he is yet to be a convicted felon. That is not unequivocal.
That only comes with a sentencing, which as of now has been delayed and may not even happen.
He is a convicted felon. Doesn't one have to be convicted in order to be sentenced? The one has to precede the other.
So, because he's not yet sentenced, he doesn't have a criminal record at this point in time as well?
So then Hunter Biden is also not convicted?
Give me a break pretzel-boy. They are both convicted. End of story.
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Jul 8, 2024 - 4:57am |
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kurtster wrote:
You forgot that he is yet to be a convicted felon. That is not unequivocal.
That only comes with a sentencing, which as of now has been delayed and may not even happen.
Eyeroll. So, of course, that changes everything.
Except for all the other things, which are reprehensible.
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Jul 8, 2024 - 4:24am |
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I have known the obvious since at least 2017 and have the receipts buried in this forum. I was vehemently rebuked something about a stutter or something. Of course I was right about other things I was openly mocked for as well. Does this make me smarter than you guys? Oh I doubt that. Perhaps you guys should contemplate on all of the other reasons, but you won't cause ......orange man bad! lol Big Mike won't run because he does not need the scrutiny and he won't get the campaign money. The correct course of action is Kamala.
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Jul 8, 2024 - 1:50am |
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Steely_D wrote:Oh, not forgotten. Just didn’t want to get mired down in semantics.
All the other things are unequivocal. You forgot that he is yet to be a convicted felon. That is not unequivocal. That only comes with a sentencing, which as of now has been delayed and may not even happen.
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Jul 7, 2024 - 7:36pm |
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Bill_J wrote:
You forgot rapist.
Oh, not forgotten. Just didnât want to get mired down in semantics. All the other things are unequivocal.
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Jul 7, 2024 - 7:02pm |
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Steely_D wrote:
Absolutely. TFG had his chance and after we saw what he represented, was denied a second term. Sure, he has supporters, but the majority of Americans donât want him. And by not capitalizing or yelling âwe donât want himâ you might miss out on the vehemence with which we understand that electing a financial failure, liar, convicted felon, nepotist, election denier, and fraud would not be the right thing for the USA.
In Louisiana, when David Duke was running against Edwin Edwards, cars sported the bumper sticker, âVOTE FOR THE CROOK. ITâS IMPORTANTâ knowing that you are, whether or not you like it, choosing between problematic and downright destructive. So, in this case, itâs a waste of time to think Biden is a great candidate - but the other choice is so much worse, and getting even more dangerous.
You forgot rapist.
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Jul 7, 2024 - 5:59pm |
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kurtster wrote:
Yeah, I saw that. I'd be willing to bet that most here would as well.
Absolutely. TFG had his chance and after we saw what he represented, was denied a second term. Sure, he has supporters, but the majority of Americans donât want him. And by not capitalizing or yelling âwe donât want himâ you might miss out on the vehemence with which we understand that electing a financial failure, liar, convicted felon, nepotist, election denier, and fraud would not be the right thing for the USA.
In Louisiana, when David Duke was running against Edwin Edwards, cars sported the bumper sticker, âVOTE FOR THE CROOK. ITâS IMPORTANTâ knowing that you are, whether or not you like it, choosing between problematic and downright destructive. So, in this case, itâs a waste of time to think Biden is a great candidate - but the other choice is so much worse, and getting even more dangerous.
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Jul 7, 2024 - 4:24pm |
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From what I've seen she isn't interested, but...
M. Obama | 50% | 39% | Trump | M. Obama | +11 |
Maybe you should petition Jon Stewart.
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