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rgio

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Location: West Jersey
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Posted: Aug 24, 2026 - 5:58am

 mannixj wrote:

20 below seems rude.


It can be magical if you dress correctly.   Cars aren't great at dressing for the occasion.

mannixj

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Posted: Aug 24, 2026 - 5:32am

20 below seems rude.
rgio

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Location: West Jersey
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 24, 2026 - 5:22am

 miamizsun wrote:


that's excellent range
battery tech is getting much better
range is creeping up (i haven't verified this particular sample source)
cost and charging speed are improving as well
personally at my age i can't drive more than 5-6 hours without a break
when i was younger, my nickname was "old iron kidneys"
i was a road warrior
get a cooler, load with ice and supplies and stop only for fuel
where i grew up and where i live now is about 950 miles and i'd do that in a day
of course that was over thirty years ago...
now i can fly and get relatively close with a single connection in atlanta

almost all apps/vendors have something like this

Interesting to consider....

From home to my parent's place in Northern Vermont is 420 miles.  

Starting with a full charge, driving the longest range AWD Model Y listed, I would have to stop twice to charge for a total of 35 mins.  That gets me to my destination with 10% left, and leaves me about 14 miles from the nearest supercharger, which they say requires 7% to get to....so any prudent person would stop at the third charger and top up to at least 50% (another 15 mins or so).  In fairness, I would stop somewhere to fill up (usually Northern Mass because it's cheaper), so we can call the last stop a wash.   

Once in VT, I won't get fuel again until my way home.  Rarely on a two week trip I'll throw $20 in...but that would mean we're driving a lot.

If you want to see the charging wasteland I'm heading to, go to https://www.tesla.com/trips and find St. Johnsbury VT in the Northeast corner of the state on their map.  There is one charger within 60 miles of where we go (East Burke).

This has re-confirmed my hunch that EV's just aren't the right fit.  I'm not even raising the issues of extreme cold.  In college, I used to run the car before going to bed to make sure it would start in the morning.  I don't think 20 below is a place for an EV.... but I never looked seriously.

miamizsun

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Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 24, 2026 - 4:40am

 rgio wrote:

I get 620-650 miles on a full tank.   That level of "flexibility" is tough to give up.




that's excellent range
battery tech is getting much better
range is creeping up (i haven't verified this particular sample source)
cost and charging speed are improving as well
personally at my age i can't drive more than 5-6 hours without a break
when i was younger, my nickname was "old iron kidneys"
i was a road warrior
get a cooler, load with ice and supplies and stop only for fuel
where i grew up and where i live now is about 950 miles and i'd do that in a day
of course that was over thirty years ago...
now i can fly and get relatively close with a single connection in atlanta

almost all apps/vendors have something like this



Red_Dragon

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Location: Gilead


Posted: Aug 23, 2026 - 12:47pm

 rgio wrote:

I get 620-650 miles on a full tank.   That level of "flexibility" is tough to give up.




We bought a new Toyota RAV 4 hybrid when we retired a year or so ago. Love. It. Consistently gets 35-36mpg putting around town; have seen over 50 on roadtrips.
rgio

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Location: West Jersey
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Posted: Aug 23, 2026 - 12:37pm

 miamizsun wrote:
i get about 280-290 miles on a full charge

I get 620-650 miles on a full tank.   That level of "flexibility" is tough to give up.


miamizsun

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Posted: Aug 23, 2026 - 12:09pm

 rgio wrote:

Yeah... I can't complain about that anymore.. I had to sell my yacht to pay my electric bill.

Did you buy your EV back when we had rebates and subsidies to support green energy? I should have taken advantage, but I was fooled by the promises of unlimited, excess, $2/gallon fuel on the horizon.  

I also take frequent 440 mile (each way) trips to see family....which isn't really "EV friendly" in northern New England.


yes i did
march/april 2024
onboard software and phone apps can help you map out a strategy for longer trips
i took a trip of approximately 2,000 miles with ease
charging is usually located in rest stops, strip malls or other places to eat, stretch, scratch, etc.
and range anxiety was one of the objections i had before purchase
i get about 280-290 miles on a full charge
rgio

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Posted: Aug 23, 2026 - 10:40am

 miamizsun wrote:
it could be worse, you could  be filling up an rv or a boat
if you're in the city or suburbia consider an ev
i charge at home and between off peak rates and my mileage i save about $100 bucks a month
very low maintenance too
just a thought

Yeah... I can't complain about that anymore.. I had to sell my yacht to pay my electric bill.

Did you buy your EV back when we had rebates and subsidies to support green energy? I should have taken advantage, but I was fooled by the promises of unlimited, excess, $2/gallon fuel on the horizon.  

I also take frequent 440 mile (each way) trips to see family....which isn't really "EV friendly" in northern New England.
miamizsun

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Posted: Aug 23, 2026 - 9:16am

 rgio wrote:

It's not every day you can thank the President for a new experience.  Today  isn't even a third of the way done, and I did something today I've never done before.

I paid over $100 to fill up my vehicle.

Anyone who says "Drill baby drill" is an idiot.  The US is a net exporter of roughly 3.9 million barrels per day right now (July average), yet fuel costs are skyrocketing.  

Good thing we won in Iran so quickly, or this could get messy.



it could be worse, you could  be filling up an rv or a boat
if you're in the city or suburbia consider an ev
i charge at home and between off peak rates and my mileage i save about $100 bucks a month
very low maintenance too
just a thought


islander

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Location: West coast somewhere
Gender: Male


Posted: Aug 22, 2026 - 8:44am

 rgio wrote:

It's not every day you can thank the President for a new experience.  Today  isn't even a third of the way done, and I did something today I've never done before.

I paid over $100 to fill up my vehicle.

Anyone who says "Drill baby drill" is an idiot.  The US is a net exporter of roughly 3.9 million barrels per day right now (July average), yet fuel costs are skyrocketing.  

Good thing we won in Iran so quickly, or this could get messy.



Odd that the "stop dumping our water into the sea" crowd is pretty silent about "selling our oil to the global market"
rgio

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Location: West Jersey
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Posted: Aug 22, 2026 - 4:43am

It's not every day you can thank the President for a new experience.  Today  isn't even a third of the way done, and I did something today I've never done before.

I paid over $100 to fill up my vehicle.

Anyone who says "Drill baby drill" is an idiot.  The US is a net exporter of roughly 3.9 million barrels per day right now (July average), yet fuel costs are skyrocketing.  

Good thing we won in Iran so quickly, or this could get messy.
R_P

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Posted: Aug 21, 2026 - 7:37pm

 rgio wrote:

The U.S. national debt climbed by $550 billion in just 51 days since July 1, reaching roughly $39.95 trillion.

Doing the math, that $32/day/US resident.  $128/day for a family of 4.

MAGA is destroying America... quickly.


    rgio

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    Posted: Aug 21, 2026 - 6:31pm

    The U.S. national debt climbed by $550 billion in just 51 days since July 1, reaching roughly $39.95 trillion.

    Doing the math, that $32/day/US resident.  $128/day for a family of 4.

    MAGA is destroying America... quickly.

      kurtster

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      Posted: Jun 25, 2026 - 5:28am

       islander wrote:


      ...and brag on the internet.


      When you're right, you're right.  

      If not for your bragging we wouldn't know that you're smarter and more successful than everyone else here.
      Red_Dragon

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      Location: Gilead


      Posted: Jun 24, 2026 - 3:28pm

       rgio wrote:

      For those thinking of investing in Space X... a bit of research to consider....

      The greatest con in American financial history has a ticker symbol: SPCX

      ...

      The bottom line

      Musk turned $288 million in political investment into a $1.77 trillion public company. He used government access to eliminate regulatory liability, install his products inside every federal agency, crowd out competitors, and create the illusion of irreplaceability — all before ringing the Nasdaq bell.

      That is the best return on invested capital in American history. None of it shows up in the income statement.

      The con is not illegal. It is, in fact, perfectly legal, meticulously documented, and hiding in plain sight.

      That is what makes it the greatest con of all.




      Yeah, the professional grifters have set this country up to benefit themselves. Fuck the peasants - let 'em eat cake.
      rgio

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      Location: West Jersey
      Gender: Male


      Posted: Jun 24, 2026 - 2:41pm

      For those thinking of investing in Space X... a bit of research to consider....

      The greatest con in American financial history has a ticker symbol: SPCX

      ...

      The bottom line

      Musk turned $288 million in political investment into a $1.77 trillion public company. He used government access to eliminate regulatory liability, install his products inside every federal agency, crowd out competitors, and create the illusion of irreplaceability — all before ringing the Nasdaq bell.

      That is the best return on invested capital in American history. None of it shows up in the income statement.

      The con is not illegal. It is, in fact, perfectly legal, meticulously documented, and hiding in plain sight.

      That is what makes it the greatest con of all.


      R_P

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      Posted: Jun 23, 2026 - 11:18am

      You know the types
      “What she did…was to make me think why capitalism is not only efficient and practical, but also moral” - Alan Greenspan, speaking about his guru Ayn Rand in 1974.

      It's worth understanding the role that this partnership played in unleashing the savageries of the modern market.

      When Greenspan was still working in the corporate sector, Rand’s ideas about the “utopia of greed” infused him with a powerful sense of mission: apparently, making money wasn’t just good for him - it was good for society as a whole.

      As for those who got trampled? Rand helped with that too: “Parasites who persistently avoid either purpose or reason perish as they should,” Greenspan wrote.

      This mindset served him well as Fed Chair, where he supported shock therapy in Russia (72 million impoverished) and in East Asia after the 1997 economic crisis (24 million pushed into unemployment). Not to mention attacks on welfare and trade unions in the U.S....

      JD Vance, with his tight concentric circles of "love," is just the latest manifestation of this worldview.

      Quite the unintended (?) consequences...
      islander

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      Gender: Male


      Posted: Jun 17, 2026 - 2:51pm

       rgio wrote:

      Woulda coulda...  I had a crypto wallet set up to buy Ether at $7, and it jumped to $11.   I decided to go ahead, being sure I'd missed the bus, but had trouble with the wallet and was sure I was just going to lose it to some pirate.... so I quit.   

      Not a chance in hell I'd still be holding much.... but it would have been a fun ride (knowing it's still gambling and its only use is to fund crime).



      ...and brag on the internet.
      rgio

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      Location: West Jersey
      Gender: Male


      Posted: Jun 17, 2026 - 2:30pm

       islander wrote:
      I had a chance to buy a fraction of an A in the mid 90's. I bought a motorcycle instead. I had a lot of fun on that motorcycle. This is not investment advice. I can't track all the money I never made, surprising I've done as well as I have.

      Woulda coulda...  I had a crypto wallet set up to buy Ether at $7, and it jumped to $11.   I decided to go ahead, being sure I'd missed the bus, but had trouble with the wallet and was sure I was just going to lose it to some pirate.... so I quit.   

      Not a chance in hell I'd still be holding much.... but it would have been a fun ride (knowing it's still gambling and its only use is to fund crime).

      islander

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      Location: West coast somewhere
      Gender: Male


      Posted: Jun 17, 2026 - 1:58pm

       rgio wrote:

      I know a couple who had A shares before the B's were available.  I think they paid ~$60k for them, and it was most of their retirement money at the time.  I'm guessing they still have them... at $736K today. 

      I wasn't that smart.  


      I had a chance to buy a fraction of an A in the mid 90's. I bought a motorcycle instead. I had a lot of fun on that motorcycle. This is not investment advice. I can't track all the money I never made, surprising I've done as well as I have.
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