Red_Dragon wrote: 
dont forget the pollution from the batteries

scourge. but so are coal and oil and natural gas because they release so much carbon into the atmosphere. solar is where it's at.

 Lazy8 wrote: 
I will stick my nose in here and say that there is food for thought.  There is some meat to this story.  There is a radioactive plume circulating in the Pacific.  Are you going to deny that ?  Are you going to deny that radiation from the reactor has been found in milk on the West Coast ?  Are you going to deny that radiation has been found in fish caught off local West Coast waters ?  Are you simply going to deny that radiation has not entered our domestic food chain in the United States ?  Erring on the side of caution is being foolish and paranoid ?

I'll give you the claims about deaths and births being affected is not supported, yet to qoute SFW when he posted a CT about the GZ trial, its "plausable".  I'll ask that you give sird the same break I gave Scott over the link being posted not in a reply to anyone or without comments with the link.  Scott tried to say that he was replying to someone yet he did not post it as a direct reply to anyone.  His defense was plausabilty.  I ask you that you give others the same break. 

Y'all like to think that everything is a CT and never hesitate to say so.  Well not everything is.  Most of what was revealed by Snowden confirmed what was always dismissed as mere CT's held by paranoid individuals.  Claims that your gubmit is not out to get you, you're just plain crazy.  Well at this point, I think we can safely say that the gubmit is out to get you.  Maybe not today, but they will sit on whatever it takes for as long as it takes it they do decide to get you.  We have proof, finally.  This is tyrrany.  Tyrrany is no longer a CT.  It is real and is manifesting itself.  Belittling those that bring up real dangers as nothing more than another bunch of CT'ers is a tyrrany of a not dissimilar kind.

And how about my conclusion that the Pacific Garbage Patch will become radioactive and impossible to deal with in the short term future ?  The airborne radiation that reached the West Coast had a much shorter half life than the radiation we are talking about in the ocean.  The half lives cited in the article are basically accurate.    All life comes from the ocean and is dependent on the ocean.  We have a dead spot or two in the Gulf of Mexico, but they are not from radiation.  We will have an even more dangerous killing zone in the Pacific when the already deadly garbage patch becomes radioactive.  I can say it will become so, measurably so, with complete confidence.  Can you assure me it won't based upon your knowledge of the ocean and its currents ?  A radioactive garbage patch the size of at least Texas will exist in the Pacific Ocean.  Call that a CT ?  It can't be, because I came up with that one all by myself, independently of any outside sources.  Its just the conclusion of a lone wolf crazy, me.

Oh and in case you missed it, Monsanto has bailed with its GMO's from the EU.  Wow !  A whole continent full of paranoid CT crazies.

As usual, ymmv ...

 islander wrote: 
fukusushi

 islander wrote: 
(insert rim-shot here)

 Monkeysdad wrote: 
Don't worry, it's 'pre-cooked'  now.

 sirdroseph wrote: 

F**k it,...I'm gonna have Sushi tonight anyway,..."Damn the torpedoes...."

 Lazy8 wrote: 
That site is golden. Don't miss the giant underwater crystal pyramid in the Bermuda Triangle. 

sirdroseph wrote:
Show me a body.

Not a breathless article in a conspiracy-theory web site (the first words in the article are "This isn’t a conspiracy theory"—unlike everything else on the site?)—an actual body of one of those Americans killed by radiation from Japan.

Yes, it's a conspiracy theory, packed with long discredited hoaxes about radioactive milk and hyperbole easily disproven by anyone with a Geiger counter.

 sirdroseph wrote: 

oh FFS.

 kurtster wrote: 

Naw, we just have to get international agreement that we are poisoning our little blue ball, and all work together to stop the wanton destruction of our habitat.

Wait, you're right. It IS impossible.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. The only way we are going to 'save' Mother Earth is by eliminating ourselves from this planet. Which we are well on our way to doing. The Earth will be just fine long after we're gone. Maybe our carcasses will power the vehicles of the next civilized(?) inhabitants.

 kurtster wrote: 

Naw, we just have to get international agreement that we are poisoning our little blue ball, and all work together to stop the wanton destruction of our habitat.

Wait, you're right. It IS impossible.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. The only way we are going to 'save' Mother Earth is by eliminating ourselves from this planet. Which we are well on our way to doing. The Earth will be just fine long after we're gone. Maybe our carcasses will power the vehicles of the next civilized(?) inhabitants.

 kurtster wrote: 

Naw, we just have to get international agreement that we are poisoning our little blue ball, and all work together to stop the wanton destruction of our habitat.

Wait, you're right. It IS impossible.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. The only way we are going to 'save' Mother Earth is by eliminating ourselves from this planet. Which we are well on our way to doing. The Earth will be just fine long after we're gone. Maybe our carcasses will power the vehicles of the next civilized(?) inhabitants.

 sirdroseph wrote: 

F*******************************************************k

So much for my dreams of moving to Hawaii ................

And after further thought, the Pacific Ocean Gyre / Pacific Ocean garbage patch which is a couple of times the size of Texas is where that flow is headed.  Not only will we have a cesspool of shit in the middle of the Pacific, its going to become radioactive making it nearly impossible to deal with, ever.

Holy Fukushima – Radiation From Japan Is Already Killing North Americans

 miamizsun wrote: 
One more problem with wind,& gas turbines is they tend to be small generators and compound system swings. If you have several 50 MW turbines on the system and swing 100 MW's they tend to trip off and compound the problem. System reliability requires BIG generators to absorb the shock of units tripping or brown out and black outs will become more commonplace.

 islander wrote: 
the guys from teac have proposed an assembly line style production/placement of small LFTRs to strategically deal with transmission (line loss?) and reliability as well

the problem as you point out with solar, wind, tidal, etc is that due to timing/demand/storage issues it gets complicated and expensive

the beauty of LFTR is that thorium is plentiful and it could be a great core source/supply for literally hundreds of thousands of years

a base and/or bridge if you will until the next transition/technology gets discovered

regards

Permanent shut down of San Onofre!!! 

 glmace wrote: 
Transmission and storage are the two areas we need to work on most. I agree about diversity and think that a large number of much smaller production points will help with safety and reliability, but we need to be able to move the power around and store it when peak production is out of synch with peak demand.