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R567

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Posted: May 24, 2024 - 9:11am

 rp567 wrote:

Rock mix sound quality below Main and Mellow?

Long time listener and supporter. I listen primarily on my home system I've curated for many years. I usually listen to the Mellow mix early in the morning and the Main mix much of the day. Occasionally I switch to the Rock mix but I rarely last more than a track or three because to my ears the audio quality is far below the other streams. I'm listening to the FLAC stream in all cases. I realize a lot of rock music was not so well recorded nor mastered over the decades but I don't believe this is the issue. It sounds like the 'processing' of the Rock stream is different and not in a good way to my well seasoned ears/auditory system.

Anyone else notice this?




I find the recently added tracks are louder than the old ones. It might just be imagination, but they sound more processed too. That might just be a result of the loudness wars but, as I do not have the albums to compare with, I can't be sure. It's a pity Philips didn't make 6dB headroom part of the Red Book spec, rather than just recommend it.
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Posted: May 21, 2024 - 2:23pm

 rp567 wrote:

Rock mix sound quality below Main and Mellow?

Long time listener and supporter. I listen primarily on my home system I've curated for many years. I usually listen to the Mellow mix early in the morning and the Main mix much of the day. Occasionally I switch to the Rock mix but I rarely last more than a track or three because to my ears the audio quality is far below the other streams. I'm listening to the FLAC stream in all cases. I realize a lot of rock music was not so well recorded nor mastered over the decades but I don't believe this is the issue. It sounds like the 'processing' of the Rock stream is different and not in a good way to my well seasoned ears/auditory system.

Anyone else notice this?



It might be fatigue from listening to rock albums that fell victim to "The Loudness Wars."

https://www.npr.org/2009/12/31...

Thankfully the industry is mixing and mastering to a new standard: -15dB LUFS.  

https://www.soundstagesolo.com...

Anyone attempting to deliver a final track mastered above that level will be unceremoniously crushed (sonically) by the respective streaming services.

Perhaps William can shed some light on his ingest and post-processing workflow for RP, but I suspect it's fairly minimalistic.  There's no specific 'sound' of RP as you'd find in traditional FM broadcast media.  By contrast, fellow Internet broadcaster Rusty Hodge has developed a robust sonic pipeline for SomaFM that is built around a network of Orban audio processors.  

I don't find myself reaching for the volume knob too often on either station, but tracks with wide dynamic range sound faithful to the originals on RP.  On SomaFM, Rusty strives for a more even dynamic level across tracks, and within the same track, using a slow compressor.




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Posted: May 20, 2024 - 7:00am

Rock mix sound quality below Main and Mellow?

Long time listener and supporter. I listen primarily on my home system I've curated for many years. I usually listen to the Mellow mix early in the morning and the Main mix much of the day. Occasionally I switch to the Rock mix but I rarely last more than a track or three because to my ears the audio quality is far below the other streams. I'm listening to the FLAC stream in all cases. I realize a lot of rock music was not so well recorded nor mastered over the decades but I don't believe this is the issue. It sounds like the 'processing' of the Rock stream is different and not in a good way to my well seasoned ears/auditory system.

Anyone else notice this?