Latest poll says almost half of all republicans refuse to get vaccinated. Which would be fine if they would just get the virus without spreading it to others.
Yup. I have often thought the same about some groups of people. Give 'em weapons and lock them in a room where they can only hurt each other.
Our neighbour who drives truck for the (highly subsidized) film industry in Greater Vancouver has bought two houses in town. He visits on weekends. I suspect that he believes he can flip properties here for a quick profit. Could be disappointed as the Bank of Canada is talking about reducing quantitative easing so ultimately borrowing costs could go and that will inevitably deflate the red-hot Canadian real estate market.
This neighbour says that he does not trust the government. Odd. For one the "government" has basically passed the pandemic mandate off to the health professionals. For two, this is the same guy who according to his own words had diabetes a bunch of years ago and then upon the recommendation of a medical doctor, changed his diet and cured his diabetes.
My question. Why was this person listening to his doctor a few years ago but now refuses to listen to the medical profession?
Pfizer vaccines from the USA will shipped north to Canada next week. Thanks!
So what to do about the anti-vaxxers? Our area is full of them. Virtually all of them are of low/modest socio-economic backgrounds.
Nothing? Let them get sick and either immune or dead or suffer morbidity? Let this run like a Donald J. Trump/Jair Bolsonaro experiment in how many of your own citizens will die from neglect and false/misleading information?
Latest poll says almost half of all republicans refuse to get vaccinated. Which would be fine if they would just get the virus without spreading it to others.
Except that they're the ones slowing down the world's recovery by allowing the virus to spread more, and by providing a host within which it can mutate and spread.
The internet has really done a lot to hurt humanity, and this is one of the more visible effects.
True all this. But the internet can also be a wonderful source of information for those willing to take the time and effort to critically read.
Honestly, I have no idea. But I will be watching the Israeli experiment to see how that unfolds. The Swedish experiment did not go so well, did it now?
Pfizer vaccines from the USA will shipped north to Canada next week. Thanks!
So what to do about the anti-vaxxers? Our area is full of them. Virtually all of them are of low/modest socio-economic backgrounds.
Nothing? Let them get sick and either immune or dead or suffer morbidity? Let this run like a Donald J. Trump/Jair Bolsonaro experiment in how many of your own citizens will die from neglect and false/misleading information?
Except that they're the ones slowing down the world's recovery by allowing the virus to spread more, and by providing a host within which it can mutate and spread.
The internet has really done a lot to hurt humanity, and this is one of the more visible effects.
Pfizer vaccines from the USA will shipped north to Canada next week. Thanks!
So what to do about the anti-vaxxers? Our area is full of them. Virtually all of them are of low/modest socio-economic backgrounds.
Nothing? Let them get sick and either immune or dead or suffer morbidity? Let this run like a Donald J. Trump/Jair Bolsonaro experiment in how many of your own citizens will die from neglect and false/misleading information?
The crowds are back at Israel’s stores and restaurants
April 27, 2021
Yarden Danan just bought a new pair of Air Jordans at the Cinema City Rishon LeZion enclosed mall. The 24-year-old has been to the mall eight to 10 times since Israel’s last lockdown ended on Feb. 21. She now feels safe enough to go to concerts, bars and restaurants, too. And at HaKirya Arena in the port city of Ashdod, Danan’s games — she’s shooting guard for professional women’s basketball team Maccabi Bnot Ashdod and a veteran of Israel’s national team — once again are drawing hundreds of fans.
Thanks to Israel’s rapid progress with COVID-19 vaccinations, life is getting back to normal for Danan. “Lines in the stores are insane,” she said. “You’ll hear people say that people don’t have money because the coronavirus was so bad, but I can see everyone was in line at stores like Zara, Foot Locker and Nike. People want to go and spend money. They can shop safely now, so they’re going out.”
The Israeli government rescinded its nationwide mask mandate on April 18. Eran Segal of Israel’s Weizmann Institute of Science underscores the reason: Since Israel’s mid-January peak of COVID-19 infections, it has recorded 98 percent fewer cases, 93 percent fewer critically ill patients and 87 percent fewer deaths. According to Segal, about 85 percent of Israelis 16 or older have been vaccinated or previously were infected with the virus; in the latter case, that means they’re more likely to have protective antibodies. “Life is close to pre-COVID,” the scientist tweeted.
according to a blurb i heard on economist news/radio:
for part of their population israel considered infection and recovery equivalent to a first dose of a vaccine
Isn't there an official system for reporting serious side effects? Seems like he wasn't following it, and that in itself is suss. If that is really the government response, they made a mistake. Should send a couple of people out to gather data and make a big deal out of taking these things very seriously and still recommending the vaccine.
Yes, I believe so. He probably went through the official system but decided to go public when Interior Health officials were not taking him seriously.
Two comments.
There is a long history of folks of European origin going out of their way, risking careers and lives, to defend western hemisphere Aboriginals. The Red Fascists here in BC may not like to hear that; they can go screw themselves.
The British Columbia provincial government has a long tradition of 'managing information'. I, for one, have very mixed feelings about this. So I can readily understand why some individuals would want to break ranks.
The above source truth11.com looks shaky but the content of this item corresponds to what I have read in other more local media. Lytton is about an hour drive from where we live.
I learned about this controversy from a hospice nurse who works in our village. She is an anti-vaxxer.
I suspect that there is some nuanced truth here.
1. Despite some horrible reactions, Nlaka'pamux community members should still get the vaccine. (Colonial name: Thompson River Indians, part of the Interior Salish group).
2. Health outcomes in interior BC rural communities consisting mostly of settler descendants and recent immigrants are awful. Health outcomes of regional FN communities are just horrifically bad, i.e., worse. I suspect that really bad health conditions make individuals far more susceptible to allergic reactions and negative outcomes from coronavirus vaccines.
Isn't there an official system for reporting serious side effects? Seems like he wasn't following it, and that in itself is suss. If that is really the government response, they made a mistake. Should send a couple of people out to gather data and make a big deal out of taking these things very seriously and still recommending the vaccine.
The above source truth11.com looks shaky but the content of this item corresponds to what I have read in other more local media. Lytton is about an hour drive from where we live.
I learned about this controversy from a hospice nurse who works in our village. She is an anti-vaxxer.
I suspect that there is some nuanced truth here.
1. Despite some horrible reactions, Nlaka'pamux community members should still get the vaccine. (Colonial name: Thompson River Indians, part of the Interior Salish group).
2. Health outcomes in interior BC rural communities consisting mostly of settler descendants and recent immigrants are awful. Health outcomes of regional FN communities are just horrifically bad, i.e., worse. I suspect that really bad health conditions make individuals far more susceptible to allergic reactions and negative outcomes from coronavirus vaccines.
The Israeli experience with the pandemic is an interesting one. It possibly illustrates how well Israelis play with each other.
It's worth reading World War Z by Max Brooks if you haven't. He takes a zombie menace (actually a rabies variant that destroys the brain and makes humans super aggressive) and filters it through the various countries' approach to threat.
China ignores it and lies about it, enhancing its spread.
USA breaks out weapons.
Israel is completely prepared.
The movie is horrible, so ignore it. But the audiobook is fantastically entertaining.
The Israeli experience with the pandemic is an interesting one. It possibly illustrates how well Israelis play with each other.
I would have expected resistance and opposition to social distancing rules and vaccines from some, Orthodox Jews for example, but maybe I have been mislead by headlines of reluctance to get vaccinated.
The crowds are back at Israelâs stores and restaurants
April 27, 2021
Yarden Danan just bought a new pair of Air Jordans at the Cinema City Rishon LeZion enclosed mall. The 24-year-old has been to the mall eight to 10 times since Israelâs last lockdown ended on Feb. 21. She now feels safe enough to go to concerts, bars and restaurants, too. And at HaKirya Arena in the port city of Ashdod, Dananâs games â sheâs shooting guard for professional womenâs basketball team Maccabi Bnot Ashdod and a veteran of Israelâs national team â once again are drawing hundreds of fans.
Thanks to Israelâs rapid progress with COVID-19 vaccinations, life is getting back to normal for Danan. âLines in the stores are insane,â she said. âYouâll hear people say that people donât have money because the coronavirus was so bad, but I can see everyone was in line at stores like Zara, Foot Locker and Nike. People want to go and spend money. They can shop safely now, so theyâre going out.â
The Israeli government rescinded its nationwide mask mandate on April 18. Eran Segal of Israelâs Weizmann Institute of Science underscores the reason: Since Israelâs mid-January peak of COVID-19 infections, it has recorded 98 percent fewer cases, 93 percent fewer critically ill patients and 87 percent fewer deaths. According to Segal, about 85 percent of Israelis 16 or older have been vaccinated or previously were infected with the virus; in the latter case, that means theyâre more likely to have protective antibodies. âLife is close to pre-COVID,â the scientist tweeted.
