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steeler
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Nov 6, 2009 - 11:53am |
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islander wrote: So if you were offended by the Bush/Hitler images, then you should also be offended by the Obama/Hitler images right? Else you would also be practicing hypocrisy.
I am actually offended by both, but also think that they are well covered by free speech. Blatant hyperbole and offensiveness are the shock tools to get people to acknowledge your message when the content can't stand on its own. No one ever promised that you (the larger you/we/all of us) wouldn't be offended.
Think about the Danish newspaper publishing those cartoons that members of the Islamic community found offensive.
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musik_knut
Location: Third Stone From The Sun Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 11:50am |
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Proclivities wrote: I agree with your points. I took issue with Durbin's assertions back then as well, and there certainly are "zanies" on both sides. I am all for free speech, and it is the right of those (or any) protestors to voice or depict their dissatisfaction. What I find offensive is that some "commercial" or "professional" entity would produce such an offensive graphic: that wasn't just some hand-made sign produced by a disgruntled individual.
A commercial printer will print almost anything for a fee. Many a sign that attacked Mr. Bush in the most vile, vulgar and pernicious manner, looked to be professionally done.
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musik_knut
Location: Third Stone From The Sun Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 11:49am |
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islander wrote: So if you were offended by the Bush/Hitler images, then you should also be offended by the Obama/Hitler images right? Else you would also be practicing hypocrisy.
I am actually offended by both, but also think that they are well covered by free speech. Blatant hyperbole and offensiveness are the shock tools to get people to acknowledge your message when the content can't stand on its own. No one ever promised that you (the larger you/we/all of us) wouldn't be offended.
Indeed. Offended when anyone is compared to Hitler, more so, a US President as the comparison.
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islander
Location: West coast somewhere Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 7:19am |
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musik_knut wrote:Who among you objected to those side by side photos of Hitler and Bush? Free speech can be offensive to our senses but it cannot be stifled. Those who would protest unfavorable depictions of Mr. Obama and remained silent when the same was done to Mr. Bush or any with whom they disagree, practice hypocrisy at its highest and most transparent level. And who made a greater vulgar use of a holocaust comparison than did Sen. Durbin, D-IL, who compared US Guards at Gitmo to guards at Auschwitz and Buchenwald? Both sides have zanies among them and both have those who express raw hatreds, too.
So if you were offended by the Bush/Hitler images, then you should also be offended by the Obama/Hitler images right? Else you would also be practicing hypocrisy. I am actually offended by both, but also think that they are well covered by free speech. Blatant hyperbole and offensiveness are the shock tools to get people to acknowledge your message when the content can't stand on its own. No one ever promised that you (the larger you/we/all of us) wouldn't be offended.
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 7:15am |
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EleventhMan wrote:and the potatoes...don't forget them! what about 'em?
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EleventhMan
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Nov 6, 2009 - 7:01am |
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oldviolin wrote:When we outlaw myopia, only the trees will have eyes...
and the potatoes...don't forget them!
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JrzyTmata
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Nov 6, 2009 - 6:45am |
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oldviolin
Location: esse quam videri Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 6:40am |
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When we outlaw myopia, only the trees will have eyes...
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 6:39am |
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musik_knut wrote:Who among you objected
I think the word you're searching for is "us."
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Proclivities
Location: Paris of the Piedmont Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 5:25am |
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musik_knut wrote:Who among you objected to those side by side photos of Hitler and Bush? Free speech can be offensive to our senses but it cannot be stifled. Those who would protest unfavorable depictions of Mr. Obama and remained silent when the same was done to Mr. Bush or any with whom they disagree, practice hypocrisy at its highest and most transparent level. And who made a greater vulgar use of a holocaust comparison than did Sen. Durbin, D-IL, who compared US Guards at Gitmo to guards at Auschwitz and Buchenwald? Both sides have zanies among them and both have those who express raw hatreds, too.
I agree with your points. I took issue with Durbin's assertions back then as well, and there certainly are "zanies" on both sides. I am all for free speech, and it is the right of those (or any) protestors to voice or depict their dissatisfaction. What I find offensive is that some "commercial" or "professional" entity would produce such an offensive graphic: that wasn't just some hand-made sign produced by a disgruntled individual.
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musik_knut
Location: Third Stone From The Sun Gender:
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Nov 5, 2009 - 6:40pm |
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Who among you objected to those side by side photos of Hitler and Bush? Free speech can be offensive to our senses but it cannot be stifled. Those who would protest unfavorable depictions of Mr. Obama and remained silent when the same was done to Mr. Bush or any with whom they disagree, practice hypocrisy at its highest and most transparent level. And who made a greater vulgar use of a holocaust comparison than did Sen. Durbin, D-IL, who compared US Guards at Gitmo to guards at Auschwitz and Buchenwald? Both sides have zanies among them and both have those who express raw hatreds, too.
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Proclivities
Location: Paris of the Piedmont Gender:
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Nov 5, 2009 - 6:10pm |
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hippiechick wrote: Unfortunately, they can..and will. It's particularly classy to trivialize the holocaust for narrow-minded political agendas. It's unlikely that those feeble-minded "patriots" made many of those posters by themselves, so who did?
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Nov 5, 2009 - 5:50pm |
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Nov 5, 2009 - 5:46pm |
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oldviolin
Location: esse quam videri Gender:
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Oct 9, 2009 - 4:56pm |
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Ummmmmmmm.....no
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(former member)
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Oct 9, 2009 - 4:18pm |
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(former member)
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Oct 9, 2009 - 5:16am |
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This space reserved for nonsense to be uttered today concerning the Nobel Peace prize award, and it's most recent recipient - call me a prophet
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samiyam
Location: Moving North
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Oct 5, 2009 - 12:00am |
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Lazy8 wrote: Um, dandy. But a thread titled "RightWingNutZ" probably isn't the place for this particular discussion...tho I appreciate the irony of discussing a book that "fosters deep listening, respect, and empathy and engenders a mutual desire to give from the heart" in a thread mocking a particular political faction.
...and that's another BIG point to Mr. Lazy8!
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Lazy8
Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:
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Oct 4, 2009 - 11:57pm |
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Atman wrote:This is the book I'm reading right now, Nonviolent Communication by Marshall Rosenberg(you can read the first chapter for free right here), and I wish you would read this in an attempt to understand what I'm trying to say, instead of hurling accusations at me. Um, dandy. But a thread titled "RightWingNutZ" probably isn't the place for this particular discussion...tho I appreciate the irony of discussing a book that "fosters deep listening, respect, and empathy and engenders a mutual desire to give from the heart" in a thread mocking a particular political faction.
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samiyam
Location: Moving North
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Oct 4, 2009 - 11:46pm |
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Atman wrote:Colour me to embarassed to be having a conversation with you about 'reality.' I think your reviewer (?) used the word in a sentence. Haha! Here's the ACTUAL data for the weekend: Notice Capitalism: A Love Story is fourth in T-Meter and Theater Average for the weekend. That, and it's a documentary, a polarizing one at that, and it's behind the intellectual fare of Zombieland and Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs, fine movies in their genre, I'm sure. Perhaps those movies are more to your liking. Maybe Invention of Lying is the movie you should go see. "Capitalism", a documentary and basic polemic film, opens against "Zombieland" and "Toy Story 3D" and "The Invention of Lying" and still manages to garner a solid showing? Very respectable. Plus, it's getting good basic reviews from both viewers and "authentic" reviewers. I think Michael has done another acceptably good job. I think that another wingnut has been exposed.
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