Skydog wrote: 
Typically, there is no immunity for perjury. 

 
Flynn is going to pull a Ollie North, he'll get immunity so they can't nail him on perjury and then do like North did and support the President

 buddy wrote: 
Actually, no. No I can't, but he can follow me on Radio Paradise so all is not lost entirely...

 miamizsun wrote: 
I saw something the other day that said "elect a clown, expect a circus". That seems pretty apropos for where we are right now.  I don't see a good end game soon and I don't think anything short of some real failure and harm to a lot of people will get anyone on the hard right (farthest 30% or so) to change their minds, and I'm not sure even that will do it.  

I'm not under any illusion that things would be a lot different politically if Hillary would have won, but I think that governance would probably have been a bit better off.

I feel bad for the electoral majority who are so fed up that they feel that burn it all down is a valid option.  It's like they think "oh hey, we'll get an insurance check and then we'll get all new stuff!". But they don't realize that all teh family pictures will be gone along with that really nice antique watch that grandpa gave them. I don't know how to appeal to these people who seem to think the harm will only come to other people, so I just insulate myself as best as I can and hope that the catharsis will be brief and the impacts fixable. But I fear that we are losing a lot that we will never recover. Among the losses is an ability to even get along. If this persists, the end will be ugly.

After Just Ten Weeks, Trump Teeters on the Brink

former George W. Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson: "This is a pretty bad combination: empty, easily distracted, vindictive, shallow, impatient, incompetent and morally small. This is not the profile of a governing party."

 buddy wrote: 
the stone kibble guy is a great writer

he loses me on the war issues (i think he is a veteran which might explain why we philosophically part ways there)

i haven't read his stuff recently

but he is certainly entertaining

 Red_Dragon wrote: 

there's a new tattoo in there

decisions, decisions

 miamizsun wrote: 
Big Money

short-sighted selfishness

conditioning 

 Skydog wrote: 
replacing trump won't really change much

sure some of the political faithful will bow and praise washington

and feel good that they've been rescued from the clutches of media marketed evil

but the heart of it all, the corrupt underpinnings of warfare, welfare and massive spending and debt won't miss a beat

i'm saying the problem is systemic

trump, obama, bush, etc. are symptoms, like the fever of an infection

we're spinning our wheels until we go after the disease

which should bring up the question....

 miamizsun wrote: 
know what you mean, I'm am so sick of it all
 

Impeach Trump and let's start all over with Reverend Pence,
in the meantime maybe the GOP and the Dems will get their story straight and we can make the necessary adjustments in 2018 & 2020

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
i did a speed glean early this morning

this was news to me and i thought we finally may have something

i didn't realize that flynn's lawyer has had put an offer on the table weeks ago and it was of little interest to the committee

so flynn's story is that he may be on the hot seat for his lobbying influence/participation of a turkish business with ties to erdogan?

that to me seems unlikely since it has been written about for over a year (see the intercept, cnn, etc')

is this or could this be related to possible war crimes?

why would politicians balk at pulling the thread on that sweater?

if flynn is allowed to speak up what would he say?

or more importantly what could he say?

dog and pony shows everywhere are insulted

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all of this secret, furtive, clandestine, surreptitious, stealthy, cloak-and-dagger, hole-and-corner, backstairs, backroom, hidden, under-the-table, concealed, undercover, underground, hush-hush, you don't need to know the whole story bullsh*t has got to stop

massive amounts of resources are misdirected to this deep state spy/war machine

all of this needs to get exposed (and not just the latest installment of nuttery, the entire history of it)

if only we some people and websites that could shine a light on this....oh wait

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
That's impeachable, too !!!!

Trump Signs Executive Order Making All His Future Bowling Scores 300s

 

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Looks like you'll get your impeachment now !!

Party at RD's !!! 

Mike Flynn Offers to Testify in Exchange for Immunity

We don't need no steenking reality!

Trump Unveils Sprawling New Presidential Retreat Where He Can Escape From Stresses Of Mar-A-Lago

White House’s explanation for Kushner’s secret meeting with a Russian banker unravels

Trump thinks gutting Obama’s Clean Power Plan will bring back mining jobs. But regulations aren’t the source of coal’s decline.