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Steely_D

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Posted: Jul 7, 2017 - 7:24am

 R_P wrote: 
#MakeAmericaGreetAgain
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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 11:00pm

False flag


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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 3:34pm

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So the Secret Service didn't do an advance check of where the President would be staying?

 
Very good point. Wouldn't the Secret Service be the ones to drive the conversation as to where the President, VP... etc. will be staying on any of their trips (especially overseas) to be able to scout and secure the location well in advance?

To act as if this was just an oversight shows an extreme lack of preparation. Nothing is surprising anymore with this administration.


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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 3:07pm

 Steely_D wrote: 
Doesn't he OWN all the hotels?
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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 2:48pm

 VV wrote:

Let's be fair. His people forgot to book a hotel. Even I don't expect the prez to have to do that.
 
..but the dysfunction is certainly pervasive.

 
No argument. It's more fuel to the "America's President is a nincompoop" fire.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 2:28pm

 Steely_D wrote: 
So the Secret Service didn't do an advance check of where the President would be staying?
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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 2:11pm

 Steely_D wrote: 
Let's be fair. His people forgot to book a hotel. Even I don't expect the prez to have to do that.
 
..but the dysfunction is certainly pervasive.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 12:59pm

Trump is meeting key world leaders at the G20 summit. He forgot to book a hotel.




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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 12:02pm

 sirdroseph wrote:
 Lazy8 wrote:
VV wrote:
Strip away the party lines and this article eloquently expresses what I have been trying to all along:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-trump-unfit-president-0170705-story.html

From the article:
At the end of the Aspen session, a gentleman approached me and asked why I had made the conversation so ad hominem by questioning Trump's fitness. I explained that when we have a system in which the chief executive is endowed with so much power, we regularly find that our fate in crises turns on the character of the president. For that reason, it is not the incivility of modern politics that drives us to question Trump's fitness; it is a respect for the lessons of history and for the national interests his profound deficits put at risk.

At times like this I want to scream at people. Do you get it now? Is it finally sinking in? Do you finally understand that granting government (especially the executive branch) such vast powers creates not just the risk that those powers will be abused but the certainty that they will be abused?

This isn't just a case of a terrible person getting his hands on power he shouldn't have, it's a case of a terrible person getting his hands on power no one should have. That sending the military off on adventures overseas without so much as a please&thank-you from Congress, spying on our communications, imprisoning and assassinating people without due process aren't just powers that can be abused but powers that are by their very nature abusive.

Trump is a lit match but the room was already full of fuel.

 


Gosh, if only there was a party or person (Ron Paul) that has been pushing and warning for limiting the powers of the executive branch regardless of who the sitting President was for years and years now. ;-)

 
Um, no.  Ron Paul doesn't want to do away with the powers of government over the individual, he simply wants to transfer those powers from the federal government to the state government - because it's easier to control people at the state and local level than at the federal level.  I'm no Libertarian, but (as a citizen of Texas, where Ron Paul has made a career out of legislating his morality) there are far more fair-minded Libertarians to point to.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 11:55am

 Lazy8 wrote:
VV wrote:
Strip away the party lines and this article eloquently expresses what I have been trying to all along:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-trump-unfit-president-0170705-story.html

From the article:
At the end of the Aspen session, a gentleman approached me and asked why I had made the conversation so ad hominem by questioning Trump's fitness. I explained that when we have a system in which the chief executive is endowed with so much power, we regularly find that our fate in crises turns on the character of the president. For that reason, it is not the incivility of modern politics that drives us to question Trump's fitness; it is a respect for the lessons of history and for the national interests his profound deficits put at risk.

At times like this I want to scream at people. Do you get it now? Is it finally sinking in? Do you finally understand that granting government (especially the executive branch) such vast powers creates not just the risk that those powers will be abused but the certainty that they will be abused?

This isn't just a case of a terrible person getting his hands on power he shouldn't have, it's a case of a terrible person getting his hands on power no one should have. That sending the military off on adventures overseas without so much as a please&thank-you from Congress, spying on our communications, imprisoning and assassinating people without due process aren't just powers that can be abused but powers that are by their very nature abusive.

Trump is a lit match but the room was already full of fuel.

 




Gosh, if only there was a party or person (Ron Paul) that has been pushing and warning for limiting the powers of the executive branch regardless of who the sitting President was for years and years now. ;-)
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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 11:45am

 Lazy8 wrote:
VV wrote:
Strip away the party lines and this article eloquently expresses what I have been trying to all along:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-trump-unfit-president-0170705-story.html

From the article:
At the end of the Aspen session, a gentleman approached me and asked why I had made the conversation so ad hominem by questioning Trump's fitness. I explained that when we have a system in which the chief executive is endowed with so much power, we regularly find that our fate in crises turns on the character of the president. For that reason, it is not the incivility of modern politics that drives us to question Trump's fitness; it is a respect for the lessons of history and for the national interests his profound deficits put at risk.

At times like this I want to scream at people. Do you get it now? Is it finally sinking in? Do you finally understand that granting government (especially the executive branch) such vast powers creates not just the risk that those powers will be abused but the certainty that they will be abused?

This isn't just a case of a terrible person getting his hands on power he shouldn't have, it's a case of a terrible person getting his hands on power no one should have. That sending the military off on adventures overseas without so much as a please&thank-you from Congress, spying on our communications, imprisoning and assassinating people without due process aren't just powers that can be abused but powers that are by their very nature abusive.

Trump is a lit match but the room was already full of fuel.

 
  good luck with that.. 


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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 10:36am

VV wrote:
Strip away the party lines and this article eloquently expresses what I have been trying to all along:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-trump-unfit-president-0170705-story.html

From the article:
At the end of the Aspen session, a gentleman approached me and asked why I had made the conversation so ad hominem by questioning Trump's fitness. I explained that when we have a system in which the chief executive is endowed with so much power, we regularly find that our fate in crises turns on the character of the president. For that reason, it is not the incivility of modern politics that drives us to question Trump's fitness; it is a respect for the lessons of history and for the national interests his profound deficits put at risk.

At times like this I want to scream at people. Do you get it now? Is it finally sinking in? Do you finally understand that granting government (especially the executive branch) such vast powers creates not just the risk that those powers will be abused but the certainty that they will be abused?

This isn't just a case of a terrible person getting his hands on power he shouldn't have, it's a case of a terrible person getting his hands on power no one should have. That sending the military off on adventures overseas without so much as a please&thank-you from Congress, spying on our communications, imprisoning and assassinating people without due process aren't just powers that can be abused but powers that are by their very nature abusive.

Trump is a lit match but the room was already full of fuel.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 10:35am


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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 10:13am

 VV wrote:
Strip away the party lines and this article eloquently expresses what I have been trying to all along: 
 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-trump-unfit-president-0170705-story.html

 
Such a cluster. 
 
I'm going to go to a 3-day music festival and see if I can forget about this stuff.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 10:04am

Strip away the party lines and this article eloquently expresses what I have been trying to all along: 
 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-trump-unfit-president-0170705-story.html
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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 9:57am


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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 3:44am

 prickelpit96 wrote:
Please take this evil clown back when G20 is over.

 
We were hoping you would keep him. He likes hotels, maybe you could give him a job as a bellhop.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2017 - 12:41am

Please take this evil clown back when G20 is over.
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Posted: Jul 5, 2017 - 3:42pm

 pigtail wrote:

Wow....that's just so terribly sad for us as a country.

 
The declaration of independence is only fake news, anyway.
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Posted: Jul 5, 2017 - 3:39pm

 R_P wrote:
Donald Trump made 21 false claims last week, has said 358 false things as president so far

‘Calling for a revolution!’: Trump fans ‘triggered’ after NPR tweets out the Declaration of Independence

For 29 years, National Public Radio’s “Morning Edition” has celebrated the Fourth of July with a reading of the Declaration of Independence by hosts, reporters, newscasters and commentators.

This testament to the nation’s founding document has previously been uncontroversial. But that has changed in the year 2017.

After NPR tweeted the accompanying text of the declaration line by line, Donald Trump backers (seemingly unaware of the source document) accused the media organization of playing partisan politics and attacking the president. (...)



 
Wow....that's just so terribly sad for us as a country.
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