oldviolin wrote: 
No mystery there... the mystery is why (given what we have seen from him so far).. people are still twisting themselves into pretzels to make excuses for him and still continue to support him.

If I hired a contractor to build an addition on my house and a year later he was almost no closer to finishing it as when he started you better believe I would have lost all hope and faith he could do the job.
 
Anybody who can't see that Trump is an unmitigated disaster is just fooling themselves or too embarrassed to admit to having a hand in elevating that disaster to the presidency.

Trump is a failed experiment which was DOA.

 oldviolin wrote: 




This very thread is a perfect microcosm.

It is/was no mystery to me why/how Trump was elected. As to retrospect, anyone still puzzled simply isn't/wasn't listening.

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote: 
I'll go open my 50th anniversary pressing of Days Of Future Passed that just arrived from Germany this very morning.

 kurtster wrote: 
I believe the poem is on a wall, inside the pedestal of the statue, but I haven't been there since I was about 9 years old, so my memory is a little foggy about that.  It may also have been moved since 1971.

 kurtster wrote: 
Well, that was easy.

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote: 
Deal !!!

 kurtster wrote: 
Hey, I just had a brainwave. We change the law, make it legal and we can all get back to the music. Deal?

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
Back at you ...

Time for a nap.

 aflanigan wrote: 
Do you even know the origins of the words you cite ?  I bet you believe that they are written on the Statue of Liberty.

Cite where you find Trump ever saying that immigration has hurt us.  He has said that illegal immigration has hurt us. 

Thanks for making my case that you can't deal with people who won't admit that there is such a thing as illegal immigration or that it is a real problem.

 kurtster wrote: 

 
Nice deflection.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
How about Bill Clinton ?  Did you vote for him ?

 kurtster wrote: 
What got us to this point is immigration. You know, "give me your tired, your poor, etc. yearning to breath free" in a land of opportunity.

And Trump's MAGA is based on the falsehood that immigration has actually harmed us, that letting in people who look different from us will harm our economy and country, and seeks to undo and trample on this for the sake of political expediency (his xenophobic base) and emotional justification (see xenophobia, white entitlement)  in order to justify social changes aimed at instituting bigotry and prejudice that are clearly unconstitutional.

Thanks for making the case for resisting Trump so clear.

 Proclivities wrote: 
Please note that this is solely centered around islander's long standing and constant bashing of me regarding my family's presence within this country.  It is not central to any of my arguments.  It only illustrates a perspective on current events based upon a view that one might have because of a family's long standing in this country.  He tries to deligitimize my perspectives, references and experiences.  I rebut and defend them as honest and real.  (pardon the rant the follows, not directed at you personally and written prior to this in parenthesis)

I'm sure as hell not the only one with a long standing family presence within this country.  There are organizations which celebrate and honor them such as the Daughters of the American Revolution and the Sons of Liberty.  They had clubs in the schools I attended, although I did not participate.  The wife did with the DAR though.  I did do the BSA.  Now these things are spit upon and hated.  Someone has to speak up and defend the founding of this country and its heritage.  I see no one else here doing that presently.  Nor do I want to dwell on it either.  But with the founders of this country now being attacked to deligitmize the very existence of this country because of things that they once did that were within the norm of the day and have since been corrected in order to legitimize a position for immediate change and disregard for laws such as with sanctuary cities, it really pisses me off.  There is absolutely no one here currently posting other than me who has stated an unequivocal objection to sanctuary cities.  They are wrong and in conflict with the established immigration laws of this country.  Congress has the sole authority over these laws.  They are not subject to local interpretation.  I seem to be the only one here who accepts, defends and speaks of this in these terms.

The attacks on this rely only upon, but there are circumstances ...  There are and they are provided for within the established laws.  The established laws are finally being enforced after years of being ignored in order to further political agendas and court future voters.  Illegals are being enabled by the defenders of sanctuary cities and I have a problem with them and that.  Innocent American citizens are dying as a direct result as well.  So I'm more than willing to stop talking about me and stick with the subject of illegal immigration and illegal immigration which has a large part to do with Trump.  But it is impossible to do so with people who do not believe that there is such a thing as illegal immigration in the first place and attack those who do with what gives you the right to even think the way you do in the first place.  I have defined what gives me the right and it is repeatedly rejected as invalid and reprehensible among other things.

Anyone else here see that the only reason that Kate Steinle is dead is because of the existence of sanctuary cities ?

trump is a bloated old narcissist, his priorities are: his ego, vengeance and humiliation of others, profit and his daughter
he is a dimwitted racist and is supported by equally small minded fools, or by conniving schemers out to raise their own benefits from his
trump is a pig
his supporters are fools.

 kurtster wrote: 

Trump Endorses Roy Moore 

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote: 
I've got your back there pilgrim...
 

 kurtster wrote: 
I guess you missed the point.

You seem to be trumpeting the fact that your father told you your ancestors never "owned" any slaves. An absurd statement since your father had no control over what his ancestors did or didn't do. To include that in your post and be proud of it makes it seem somehow you are looking for credit for this? I was simply making an equally absurd statement... and looking for equal credit.  

 Proclivities wrote: 
I like the Constitution. and it's ammendability

 Proclivities wrote: 

I'm not scary. Honest.