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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 3:35pm

 R_P wrote:
How Game Theory Explains the Leaks in the Trump White House

In 1950, Albert Tucker, a mathematician at Princeton, gave a talk to a group of Stanford psychologists about the rapidly developing science known as game theory. To illustrate one of his arguments, he invented a story about two criminals who had been arrested for a crime they had committed jointly. (...)

For the past several days, Trump and other senior officials have reportedly been consumed with discovering who leaked the fact that a member of the White House communications team had dismissed some remarks that the ailing senator John McCain made, saying they didn’t matter, because “he’s dying, anyway.” On Monday, Trump took to Twitter. After he first suggested that the entire leaking phenomenon was an invention of the “Fake News Media,” he went on, “With that being said, leakers are traitors and cowards, and we will find out who they are!”

If the White House investigation to find the source of the McCain leak advances, it will probably find guilty parties everywhere. Ever since Trump became President, the White House has leaked like a sieve. “The leaks come in all shapes and sizes: small leaks, real-time leaks, weaponized leaks, historical leaks,” Jonathan Swan, Axios’s White House correspondent, wrote this week. “Sensitive Oval Office conversations have leaked, and so have talks in cabinet meetings and the Situation Room. You name it, they leak it.” Mike Allen, Swan’s colleague at Axios, says, “we learn more about what’s going on inside the Trump White House in a week than we did in a year of the George W. Bush presidency.”

That may well be true, and game theory provides one explanation. By deliberately creating a factionalized, dog-eat-dog culture inside the White House, one that mimics how he ran his business and the premise of his reality-television show, Trump has turned the people who work for him into White House versions of the prisoners in Tucker’s story. With this in mind, it is to be expected that so many White House staffers would take actions that are damaging to the Administration, such as leaking explosive information. (...)



 
I honestly think Donnie Johnnie himself is the leak.
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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 2:02pm

How Game Theory Explains the Leaks in the Trump White House

In 1950, Albert Tucker, a mathematician at Princeton, gave a talk to a group of Stanford psychologists about the rapidly developing science known as game theory. To illustrate one of his arguments, he invented a story about two criminals who had been arrested for a crime they had committed jointly. (...)

For the past several days, Trump and other senior officials have reportedly been consumed with discovering who leaked the fact that a member of the White House communications team had dismissed some remarks that the ailing senator John McCain made, saying they didn’t matter, because “he’s dying, anyway.” On Monday, Trump took to Twitter. After he first suggested that the entire leaking phenomenon was an invention of the “Fake News Media,” he went on, “With that being said, leakers are traitors and cowards, and we will find out who they are!”

If the White House investigation to find the source of the McCain leak advances, it will probably find guilty parties everywhere. Ever since Trump became President, the White House has leaked like a sieve. “The leaks come in all shapes and sizes: small leaks, real-time leaks, weaponized leaks, historical leaks,” Jonathan Swan, Axios’s White House correspondent, wrote this week. “Sensitive Oval Office conversations have leaked, and so have talks in cabinet meetings and the Situation Room. You name it, they leak it.” Mike Allen, Swan’s colleague at Axios, says, “we learn more about what’s going on inside the Trump White House in a week than we did in a year of the George W. Bush presidency.”

That may well be true, and game theory provides one explanation. By deliberately creating a factionalized, dog-eat-dog culture inside the White House, one that mimics how he ran his business and the premise of his reality-television show, Trump has turned the people who work for him into White House versions of the prisoners in Tucker’s story. With this in mind, it is to be expected that so many White House staffers would take actions that are damaging to the Administration, such as leaking explosive information. (...)


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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 9:10am

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Oh knowing the benevolent and classy Ms. Coulter I am sure the question was rhetorical wondering whether Israel had the authority to carry out this atrocity. She is just concerned for the Palestinians well being. ;-)


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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 8:33pm

 VV wrote:

Actually I think I do agree with you... perhaps I was trying to be more charitable than usual. The overall point is that when it comes to untruths between Trump and Obama... Trump is the undisputed king.

 
Not sure who said it but something like "If you ask Trump what time it is, he'll lie just to keep in practice." Paraphrasing Mark Twain, I think, "Never tell a lie, except to stay in practice." 


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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 8:30pm

 VV wrote:

Actually I think I do agree with you... perhaps I was trying to be more charitable than usual. The overall point is that when it comes to untruths between Trump and Obama... Trump is the undisputed king.

 

{#Yes} {#Stop}


That's kind of you to be so charitable to man who simply doesn't deserve it. Trump is a cartoon caricature of a blowhard. If the younger Trump could see the reduced state of the older Trump, he'd wince in shame.


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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 6:04pm

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I have to disagree with you when it comes to the issue of whether Trump is being malicious or not. After he told this whopper, he admitted that he made up the Canada-related number. IIRC he also told PM Trudeau that falsehood to Trudeau's face, knowing that it was a lie:

From https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/14/opinion/sunday/trump-lies-obama-who-is-worse.html

April 28, 2017.“The trade deficit with Mexico is close to $70 billion, even with Canada it’s $17 billion trade deficit with Canada.” (The U.S. had an $8.1 billion trade surplus, not deficit, with Canada in 2016.)

Trump will say any old shit to make his point or win people over. From what I can tell, he sees no advantage or point in telling the truth. His relationships are transactional zero-sum interactions. If he wins, he'll brag endlessly about it. If he loses, he will bitch and moan about the system being rigged against him or some such crap.

Trump is a kleptocrat. He's as close as we'll get (hopefully) to having someone like Ferdinand Marcos or Zaire's Mobutu Sese Seko as our country's leader.

I do agree with you, VV, about Trump not grasping facts or putting in the time to learn. It's just that he's a congenital liar and conman before anything else.

 
Actually I think I do agree with you... perhaps I was trying to be more charitable than usual. The overall point is that when it comes to untruths between Trump and Obama... Trump is the undisputed king.
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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 5:01pm

 VV wrote:

I think that if you look at the reason many of Trump's statements are false are not necessarily malicious... it's just that he doesn't have a grasp/understanding of the facts or take the time to learn them. He also constantly struggles to properly articulate ideas.
 
Our prez.

 

I have to disagree with you when it comes to the issue of whether Trump is being malicious or not. After he told this whopper, he admitted that he made up the Canada-related number. IIRC he also told PM Trudeau that falsehood to Trudeau's face, knowing that it was a lie:

From https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/14/opinion/sunday/trump-lies-obama-who-is-worse.html

April 28, 2017.“The trade deficit with Mexico is close to $70 billion, even with Canada it’s $17 billion trade deficit with Canada.” (The U.S. had an $8.1 billion trade surplus, not deficit, with Canada in 2016.)

Trump will say any old shit to make his point or win people over. From what I can tell, he sees no advantage or point in telling the truth. His relationships are transactional zero-sum interactions. If he wins, he'll brag endlessly about it. If he loses, he will bitch and moan about the system being rigged against him or some such crap.

Trump is a kleptocrat. He's as close as we'll get (hopefully) to having someone like Ferdinand Marcos or Zaire's Mobutu Sese Seko as our country's leader.

I do agree with you, VV, about Trump not grasping facts or putting in the time to learn. It's just that he's a congenital liar and conman before anything else.


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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 4:40pm

 VV wrote:
I think that if you look at the reason many of Trump's statements are false are not necessarily malicious... it's just that he doesn't have a grasp/understanding of the facts or take the time to learn them. He also constantly struggles to properly articulate ideas.
 
Our prez. 
 
I think you're being charitable in (sort of) painting him as bumbling Dubya, but Trump being a Cohn acolyte means malice is just another tool for 'winning'. And plenty of it has been on display.

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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 4:25pm

 R_P wrote:

Both the difference in quality and quantity should be obvious to a 5-year old.

 
I think that if you look at the reason many of Trump's statements are false are not necessarily malicious... it's just that he doesn't have a grasp/understanding of the facts or take the time to learn them. He also constantly struggles to properly articulate ideas.
 
Our prez.


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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 4:16pm

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So while we are on the topic

Trump’s Lies vs. Obama’s

Fairly enlightening as the gap has only grown wider since the article was published.
 
Both the difference in quality and quantity should be obvious to a 5-year old.
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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 4:03pm

So while we are on the topic

Trump’s Lies vs. Obama’s


Fairly enlightening damning as the gap has only grown wider since the article was published.
 
I'm sure that even kurtster would endorse it as the article mentions Obama's healthcare falsehood/lie that he pointed out.



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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 3:35pm

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We should. I don't have a problem being critical, regardless of party.
To be fair, I think of lying as malice and deception. Something like "keep your doctor" is different from "did not have sex with that woman."

And then, finding a single instance doesn't convince me that someone is as bad as the poster suggests.

Is breaking a campaign promise the same as lying? Because then we're also going down a road... 

 
Works for me.  Lead on McDuff !  

Keep your doctor affected the entire country.  Did not have sex with that woman only affected a very small circle of friends ...



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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 3:15pm

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Well there's always you can keep your doctor if you want to go down that road ...

 
We should. I don't have a problem being critical, regardless of party.
To be fair, I think of lying as malice and deception. Something like "keep your doctor" is different from "did not have sex with that woman."

And then, finding a single instance doesn't convince me that someone is as bad as the poster suggests.

Is breaking a campaign promise the same as lying? Because then we're also going down a road... 
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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 2:13pm

 kurtster wrote:

Well there's always you can keep your doctor if you want to go down that road ...

 
Great whataboutism, Comrade!!!
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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 1:42pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

Is that you, Vlad?

 

Considering his shaky grasp of English, that's not a bad guess.
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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 1:41pm

 kurtster wrote:

Well there's always you can keep your doctor if you want to go down that road ...

 
 
If that's the best you can come up with, you've got squat. Your hero lies almost as much as he breathes.

You want to talk healthcare? How about Trump's attempt to take away health care coverage from tens of millions of Americans?

How about Trump's broken promise to let Medicare bargain with Big Pharma over drug prices?

Trump to Drop Call for Medicare to Negotiate Lower Drug Prices
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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 12:23pm

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OK, show some proof of the lies so we can be convinced.
Otherwise this just looks like attention-getting. {#Naughty}
 
Everyone knows they lied (at various times). However, I don't see how that makes Trump "fantastic", esp. when he's a pathological liar on steroids.
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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 12:13pm

 Steely_D wrote:

OK, show some proof of the lies so we can be convinced.
Otherwise this just looks like attention-getting. {#Naughty}

 
Well there's always you can keep your doctor if you want to go down that road ...
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Posted: May 15, 2018 - 12:04pm

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Trump is fantastic. Clinton & Obama is and where lying ***holes.

 
Is that you, Vlad?
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