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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 4:10pm

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Yeah ... no respect ...

Strong feelings about litter and garbage too.

I expected regular border crossings (i.e. used by most migrants) to be equipped with inviting garbage bins.

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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 4:00pm

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The first thing they do when they get here is litter and dump their garbage at the border.

Just terrible.
 
Yeah ... no respect ...

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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 3:58pm

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C'mon Kurt...you can do better than that.  "Your Mom" stopped being an acceptable rebuttal for you 65 years ago. My parents had plenty of faults, but they were not racist.  The first person to visit my mother in the hospital after my sister was born in 1960 was their black (male) friend... which apparently raised eyebrows.
 
You went and made it personal against me calling me a Klansman.  "Don't forget YOUR hat" with a corresponding picture.

And I am just supposed to take it ?

You think it's funny ?  I don't.

You made a direct personal attack calling me a racist.  It's pretty blatant and uncalled for.  

Is there another way to take this ?  No, as far as I am concerned.
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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 3:39pm

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The first thing they do when they get here is litter and dump their garbage at the border.

Just terrible.

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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 2:42pm

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I don't wear hats or hoods for that matter.  You have me confused with your own relatives.

C'mon Kurt...you can do better than that.  "Your Mom" stopped being an acceptable rebuttal for you 65 years ago.

My parents had plenty of faults, but they were not racist.  The first person to visit my mother in the hospital after my sister was born in 1960 was their black (male) friend... which apparently raised eyebrows.

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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 12:31pm

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Don't forget your hat... En Caroline du Sud, l'effroi de la Troupe K face à la terreur du Ku ...
 
I don't wear hats or hoods for that matter.  You have me confused with your own relatives.
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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 12:29pm

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Just a quick shout from the galleries across the pond: what is hilarious Kurtster is that your paranoia of immigrants flooding the country from south of the border couldn't stand in greater contrast to the actual leaders you support (Trump and De Santis) , who both (at least from my perspective) are much more closely aligned to the culture of demagogues and racial/class alienation that has such a long tradition south of the border and couldn't be further removed from the tradition of pluralism which has so far prevailed north of the border. So you profess fear of the erosion of US culture by immigration but, by voting for the party you choose, you couldn't do more to erode that very same culture you claim you want to protect.  
 
Not at all.  It is the distinction between legal and illegal immigration.  No borders, no country.  Period. The things you cite have nothing to do with anything I am concerned about.

 Peace and order are being replaced by open anarchy.  


We simply cannot deal with all these uncoordinated new arrivals.  5 million since Biden took office (that we know of) and at least 10 million by the end of his first term.  The first thing they do when they get here is litter and dump their garbage at the border.  They are effectively homeless upon arrival.  We have no place to shelter them.  Now we have all the people who support Sanctuary Cities who voted for Biden and open borders now getting upset when these new arrivals show up in their neighborhoods.  NIMBY, here we go again.

It seems once again all these virtue signaling people cannot walk their talk when it is time to deal with the consequences of their own policies and wishes.
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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 12:05pm

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Don't forget your hat...

En Caroline du Sud, l'effroi de la Troupe K face à la terreur du Ku ...


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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 11:44am

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The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS)is an anti-immigration think tank and a SPLC designated hate group. It favors far lower immigration numbers, and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham and eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton. —Wikipedia

Very fine people who like tiki torches.
 
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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 11:42am

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The SPLC is a hate group all by itself and has been discredited as far as I know and are concerned.  They have financially ripped off their supporters and have not so secret offshore bank accounts to hide these funds. 

The information in the CIS article has not been refuted and stands up to date.

What about the rest of the info I posted ?

All substandard as well ?
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Margaret Sanger founder of Planned Parenthood was a eugenicist and could also be called a white nationalist.
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Remove statues of Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood founder tied to eugenics and racism


Just a quick shout from the galleries across the pond:

what is hilarious Kurtster is that your paranoia of immigrants flooding the country from south of the border couldn't stand in greater contrast to the actual leaders you support (Trump and De Santis) , who both (at least from my perspective) are much more closely aligned to the culture of demagogues and racial/class alienation that has such a long tradition south of the border and couldn't be further removed from the tradition of pluralism which has so far prevailed north of the border. So you profess fear of the erosion of US culture by immigration but, by voting for the party you choose, you couldn't do more to erode that very same culture you claim you want to protect.  

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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 11:24am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS)is an anti-immigration think tank and a SPLC designated hate group. It favors far lower immigration numbers, and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham and eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton. —Wikipedia

Very fine people who like tiki torches.
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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 11:21am

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 kurtster wrote:
You just cannot make this stuff up.
The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS)is an anti-immigration think tank and a SPLC designated hate group. It favors far lower immigration numbers, and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham and eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton. —Wikipedia

 
The SPLC is a hate group all by itself and has been discredited as far as I know and are concerned.  They have financially ripped off their supporters and have not so secret offshore bank accounts to hide these funds. 

The information in the CIS article has not been refuted and stands up to date.

What about the rest of the info I posted ?

All substandard as well ?
.
Margaret Sanger founder of Planned Parenthood was a eugenicist and could also be called a white nationalist.
.
Remove statues of Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood founder tied to eugenics and racism
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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 11:14am

 kurtster wrote:
You just cannot make this stuff up.


The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS)is an anti-immigration think tank and a SPLC designated hate group. It favors far lower immigration numbers, and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham and eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton. —Wikipedia

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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 10:36am

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 kurtster wrote:

That leaves us with the shit show at the Border. It is 100% on Biden.  I'll remind you that I lived 75 miles north of the border in the 60's.  My feelings regarding legal and illegal immigration predate any political arguments underway today and my thoughts came long before any today that may appear similar to mine.  

Mexican border crossings are down 50% since Title 42 expiration

 
Yeah, ok.

Meanwhile there are other reports on the subject ...

Biden DHS Coordinating Illegal Immigration In-Flows with Mexico

A striking level of collusion, as Biden's officers use an encrypted online chat room to tell Mexico when to let migrants swim across

The Mexican officers said the Americans initiated this system in late April but could only guess at why – perhaps to better manage the processing of very high recent numbers of crossings. But the collaboration explains why Mexican immigration officers are stationed at the river at all, and raises many questions.

CBP did not immediately respond to CIS’s telephoned and emailed messages for comment.

But the process, which has never been publicized, amounts to a “controlled-flow” system most often used, controversially, by Colombia, Panama, and Costa Rica, to facilitate mass illegal migration to the U.S. border rather than incur the expense and trouble of blocking it in those countries.

Controlled-flow by the Biden administration’s DHS with Mexico also constitutes a highly unusual U.S. policy that demonstrates formal acquiescence to illegal immigration and an official willingness to accommodate mass illegal immigration rather than stopping, blocking, or deterring it, as required by law.

Column: After Title 42, there’s a border crisis whether Biden admits it or not

On March 29, 2019, former Obama administration Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson commented on 4,000 apprehensions at the border that week. “I know that a thousand overwhelms the system. I cannot begin to imagine what 4,000 a day looks like, so we are truly in a crisis.”

Last Tuesday, just before Title 42 ended, 11,000 migrants were apprehended. On Wednesday, another 11,000. On Thursday, it dropped to 10,000 and on Friday it edged down to a mere 6,200. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro N. Mayorkas claimed this as proof that the Biden administration’s post-Title 42 plan was working. He told ABC News on Sunday, “Over the past two days, the United States Border Patrol has seen an approximately 50% drop in the number of people encountered at our southern border.”

This is typical of the larger problem. A talking point on a news show is no substitute for a successful policy. Pan out to a more meaningful unit of time, and you can see the disaster for what it is. In fiscal year 2022, a record-breaking 2.2 million migrants were apprehended, up from 1.7 million the year before.

The Biden administration seems to struggle more with the “messaging” of the crisis than the actual crisis — which is why it has often agonized about whether to use the word “crisis” at all. Mayorkas refuses to say it, preferring a “significant challenge.”

Title 42 ends with 60,000 migrants waiting near U.S.-Mexico border

As of Thursday, nearly 25,000 migrants were in Border Patrol holding facilities and tents, Ortiz said, despite the agency only having capacity on paper to hold several thousand individuals.

Ortiz said Border Patrol is working to reduce overcrowding in its holding facilities by rapidly releasing some migrants without court dates.

And then we get this regarding the previous {#Arrowu} ...

Judge blocks Biden admin request to stay order blocking release of migrants into US without court date


Yep the shit show continues.  And it is only going to get worse as all the places that said they were Sanctuary Cities or States, now decide that they aren't because there are too many to deal with.  It was ok until they started to show up and actually take you up on your hospitality that you all said wasn't going to cost any taxpayer money, except that it does.

Mayor Adams of NYC asked Biden for $1 Billion and is trying to export migrants to surrounding suburbs that do not claim to be Sanctuary Cities against their will.  Homeless veterans are being thrown out of hotels in order to house illegal migrants.  Yep.  American's last.  That's the democratic party's true colors.

You just cannot make this stuff up.

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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 8:31am

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Posted: May 15, 2023 - 9:30pm

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imagine that
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Posted: May 15, 2023 - 7:16pm

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That leaves us with the shit show at the Border. It is 100% on Biden.  I'll remind you that I lived 75 miles north of the border in the 60's.  My feelings regarding legal and illegal immigration predate any political arguments underway today and my thoughts came long before any today that may appear similar to mine.  


Mexican border crossings are down 50% since Title 42 expiration


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Posted: May 13, 2023 - 2:24pm

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My feelings regarding legal and illegal immigration (...)


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Posted: May 13, 2023 - 2:15pm

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Kurt, we've beat this one up about as much as possible.  ...

the Washington Examiner, and the NY Post are not reliable, ...
 
I guess we're done here.

If nothing else we appear to agree on Term Limits.  And coming from different sides.

That leaves us with the shit show at the Border. It is 100% on Biden.  I'll remind you that I lived 75 miles north of the border in the 60's.  My feelings regarding legal and illegal immigration predate any political arguments underway today and my thoughts came long before any today that may appear similar to mine.  They do not influence me one bit.

Later.
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Posted: May 13, 2023 - 2:03pm

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 Steely_D wrote:

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden

After four months of investigation, House Republicans who promised to use their new majority to unearth evidence of wrongdoing by President Biden acknowledged on Wednesday that they had yet to uncover incriminating material about him, despite their frequent insinuations that he and his family have been involved in criminal conduct and corruption.

 


“…even though it’s RAMPANT and OBVIOUS…” says people who want facts to conform to their belief system.
 
Paywall.  Tried the first time you posted it.  No matter I have heard a summary of the article before your original post.  I laughed.
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