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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 1:54pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Why would heads explode over this? You think we were expecting he'd pick someone who isn't a throbbing lump? All this does is certify that Vance is that lump. Choosing a political novice this time around makes sense. He'd never want anyone to think there was some sort of power sharing going on. Where last time, Pence was there to lend an image of experience. 

Having had a half hour or so to think about it, I'm not sure they'll get along. But he's probably the least bad. A vastly better communicator, anyway. Everything Trump says has to be run thru a WTF translator. 

There's a chance he'll upstage Trump—younger, fitter, better-looking, articulate even though Trump has trained him to change his spots and declare the sky isn't blue. But VP choices rarely move the needle. 

I don't see how this is supposed to win over women or (not that Trump cares) minorities. 

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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 1:14pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Why would heads explode over this? You think we were expecting he'd pick someone who isn't a throbbing lump? All this does is certify that Vance is that lump. Choosing a political novice this time around makes sense. He'd never want anyone to think there was some sort of power sharing going on. Where last time, Pence was there to lend an image of experience. 

Having had a half hour or so to think about it, I'm not sure they'll get along. But he's probably the least bad. A vastly better communicator, anyway. Everything Trump says has to be run thru a WTF translator



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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 12:35pm

More white resentment
Did J.D. Vance’s Politics Really Transform?
Liberals will have to now live with who they empowered.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 12:35pm

 kurtster wrote:

It is Vance.

Now let the heads explode, figuratively speaking ...



Why would heads explode over this? You think we were expecting he'd pick someone who isn't a throbbing lump? All this does is certify that Vance is that lump. Choosing a political novice this time around makes sense. He'd never want anyone to think there was some sort of power sharing going on. Where last time, Pence was there to lend an image of experience. 

Having had a half hour or so to think about it, I'm not sure they'll get along. But he's probably the least bad. A vastly better communicator, anyway. Everything Trump says has to be run thru a WTF translator. 
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 12:29pm

 Isabeau wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

It is Vance. Now let the heads explode, figuratively speaking ...

er, parallels the head explosions from maga misogynists when discussing Kamala Harris....  Blade cuts both ways.
 
{#Yes}
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 12:23pm

 kurtster wrote:

It is Vance.

Now let the heads explode, figuratively speaking ...



er, parallels the head explosions from maga misogynists when discussing Kamala Harris.... 

Blade cuts both ways.

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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 12:22pm

Empathy should not be used as a tool to absolve anyone of the harm they are causing you. And having empathy is not a reason to stay in a harmful relationship.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 12:15pm

It is Vance.

Now let the heads explode, figuratively speaking ...
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 11:09am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


I haven't followed the sweepstakes. Who's the front-runner?

Steve Scalise {there's a joke in there somewhere}?

Probably a Governor somewhere. Gianforte would be happy to go.

No idea.  Maybe Youngkin. Perhaps Vance (rumours).

VP will apparently be appearing in the roll call @ ~ 2:27pm CST


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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 11:02am

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Trump will announce his Veep pick today!



I haven't followed the sweepstakes. Who's the front-runner?

Steve Scalise {there's a joke in there somewhere}?

Probably a Governor somewhere. Gianforte would be happy to go.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 10:55am

Trump will announce his Veep pick today!
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 10:48am

 Beaker wrote:


Too late.  Way too late.




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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 10:40am

 kcar wrote:
Which leads the skeptical towards conspiracy thinking—"this looks staged." That same type of thinking shows up among Trump supporters—

Some Trump supporter(s) here floated the idea that Jan. 6 capitol invaders were "Antifa" so yeah. 

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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 10:32am


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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 10:19am

 steeler wrote:
From Washington Post article today:

Minutes after Saturday’s shooting at a Trump rally in Butler, Pa., liberals began flooding social media platforms with conspiracy theories.


They claimed the blood on former president Donald Trump’s ear was from a theatrical gel pack; that the shooting was a “false flag,” perhaps coordinated by the Secret Service in collaboration with the Trump campaign; that the scene of a bloody Trump raising his fist under an American flag was “staged.”
. . .

The shooting threw into overdrive a phenomenon dubbed “BlueAnon” — a play on the right wing conspiracy theory QAnon — that refers to liberal conspiracy theories online. As more Americans lose trust in mainstream institutions and turn to partisan commentators and influencers for information, experts say they are seeing a big uptick in the manufacture and spread of BlueAnon conspiracy theories, a sign that the communal warping of reality is spreading well beyond the right.


Let’s keep our oars in the water, people.


Too late.  Way too late.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 10:05am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


NB: first captions were that it was the bullet but it's more likely bullet. 

He was shooting at 1/8000th of a second.


I agree that the shooter really did fire an AR-15 style weapon and killed/wounded people. Trump's life was likely in danger although this assassination attempt like others before it (eg JFK) raises puzzling issues. Trump's ear, for instance, doesn't look cut, torn or damaged. Has there been any statement from a physician? Why did the Secret Service do such a poor job? There should have been Secret Service on that roof and the bodyguards who rushed to protect Trump did a lousy job of protecting him. They could not have had full certainty that the scene was secure when they let Trump walk off the stage and they failed to fully protect him as they did so. 

A number of people I talked to/chatted with shared my initial reaction—"this looks staged"—without any prompting on my part. That hunch, however incorrect, seems to be pretty common. But we've been here before. The country's evolving reaction to the JFK assassination served (serves) as a Rorschach test about Americans' view of the federal government and the state of our nation. That seems to be happening again here but the test is about Trump's trustworthiness.  

Which leads the skeptical towards conspiracy thinking—"this looks staged." That same type of thinking shows up among Trump supporters—"Biden was behind it or his rhetoric caused the shooting" or "all the cases against Trump are just election interference BS." And conspiracy thinking is extremely durable—as of 2013, over half of Americans still thought there was a conspiracy to kill JFK. 


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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 9:55am

From Washington Post article today:

Minutes after Saturday’s shooting at a Trump rally in Butler, Pa., liberals began flooding social media platforms with conspiracy theories.


They claimed the blood on former president Donald Trump’s ear was from a theatrical gel pack; that the shooting was a “false flag,” perhaps coordinated by the Secret Service in collaboration with the Trump campaign; that the scene of a bloody Trump raising his fist under an American flag was “staged.”
. . .

The shooting threw into overdrive a phenomenon dubbed “BlueAnon” — a play on the right wing conspiracy theory QAnon — that refers to liberal conspiracy theories online. As more Americans lose trust in mainstream institutions and turn to partisan commentators and influencers for information, experts say they are seeing a big uptick in the manufacture and spread of BlueAnon conspiracy theories, a sign that the communal warping of reality is spreading well beyond the right.


Let’s keep our oars in the water, people.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 9:06am

 kcar wrote:

Twitter can be a cesspool but this post raises interesting questions:


WTFGOP@DogginTrumpBefore I go to sleep tonight, I still have so many more questions:

1. if Trump was injured by a bullet, why did he go golfing today? Which tells me he wasn’t hit by a bullet & he’s lying


It hasn't been confirmed that Trump played golf on Sunday, just that he went to his Bedminster Country Club "to recover".  But, yes, Twitter/X is a cesspool, as the linked article shows.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 8:59am

 kcar wrote:

Twitter can be a cesspool but this post raises interesting questions:
...


The questions are silly and pointless.  If it was staged, then finding someone to "act", including the guy who died in the audience... is impressive.  Common sense says that Trump was just extremely lucky... let's assume that until we have proof to the contrary.

The dismissal of the case merely reinforces the fact that the judge will do every and anything to support Trump.  Releasing today... c'mon.  I wonder if she and Clarence worked that out together as a way to ensure no trial before the election.

I honestly think the past few days may eventually help the Dems (if they're smart... huge IF).  The polls are going to crash on Biden.  Beyond the standard convention bump, Trump is going to get the debate win, plus an assassination nudge... which are going to put Joe behind by a lot in all of the swing states.  

Maybe he can be convinced he can't win.  If he does back out...all of the energy will move toward the Dems.  The interest in the process will overrun anything Trump does, and he'll grow irritated... which makes him irrational and a risk to the Right.  Joe thinks he's survived the debate and that he's now everywhere doing OK...but the damage is done.  Maybe Trump pulling away will finally convince Joe that his legacy is about to crumble.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2024 - 8:56am

 kurtster wrote:

Here's the answer to your first question.

Yes, Trump was hit by a bullet.  We have a picture of the bullet in midflight.

Source NYT.
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NB: first captions were that it was the bullet but it's more likely bullet. 

He was shooting at 1/8000th of a second.

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