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Ellen McIlwaine — Can't Find My Way Home
Album: Honky Tonk Angel
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Released: 1972
Length: 3:36
Plays (last 30 days): 3
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Come down off your throne
And leave your body alone
Somebody's got to change
You are the reason
I have been waiting for so long
Somebody holds the key
And it ain't me

Well, I'm near the end
And I just ain't got the time
What's more I'm wasted
And can't find my way home

Come down on your own
And leave your money at home
Somebody's got to change
You are the reason
I have been waiting all these years
Somebody holds the key

Well, I'm near the end
And I just ain't got the time
What's more I'm wasted
And I can't find my way home


Come down off your throne
And leave your body alone
Somebody's got to change
You are the reason I have been
waiting for so long
Somebody holds the key
And it ain't me

Well, I'm near the end
And I just ain't got the time
What's more I'm wasted
And can't find my way home

What's more I'm wasted
And can't find my way home

What's more I'm wasted
And can't find my way home
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And up to #9 we go!
Posted 3 weeks ago by awhfman    [ Reply ]
 ShelleyFarrow wrote:

So, this is the song that convinces me to join in as a RP commenter, hmmm, interesting...  Love her breathy voice. Speaks to me. I've been listening for years, probably 7 years and I can't think of anything I enjoy listening to more. Friends over last weekend, my hubby and our friend took many turns introducing us to new and old music. On the last day of the visit our friend turned to me and asked what do I want to listen to? I deferred saying go ahead "you can be the dj." Afterward I realized my choice would have been, Radio Paradise. My go to. Thank you for allowing me to go about my business in enjoyment while you go about yours. It is on my bucket list to visit your studio some day.



Well said.
Posted 3 months ago by bimmerfan739    [ Reply ]
 patmvcr wrote:

I used to see her perform regularly in "Alberts Hall" upstairs at the Brunny (Brunswick House Tavern) in Toronto. She would play a few nights and stay in one the suites upstairs where she would hold court after performances. She was a mean guitarist and had a fantastic raunchy voice. This song was her signature piece and it was well loved by my late sister and nephew!



Thanks for that detail. Every time I hear her I remember seeing her in a small venue in Toronto and could never remember the name of the bar. She was phenomenal live. I just realized she's joined Jimi and a host of other greats in the great beyond. RIP Ellen.
Posted 5 months ago by soozbc    [ Reply ]
 patmvcr wrote:

I used to see her perform regularly in "Alberts Hall" upstairs at the Brunny (Brunswick House Tavern) in Toronto. She would play a few nights and stay in one the suites upstairs where she would hold court after performances. She was a mean guitarist and had a fantastic raunchy voice. This song was her signature piece and it was well loved by my late sister and nephew!


Huh. We always called it “The ‘Wick”.
Posted 5 months ago by Talus1    [ Reply ]
 thundrpants wrote:

She actually sings it in a lower key than Steve Winwood!


Ya, I love her voice. I never much cared for Winwood’s falsetto. 
Posted 5 months ago by Talus1    [ Reply ]
The original Steve Winwood/Blind Faith version is an old favourite of mine. I was there when Blind Faith first performed it for the public at Hyde Park in London. But this is a pretty good version of it.
Posted 5 months ago by Madness1954    [ Reply ]
 johnfiva wrote:

This gives the word unnecessary new meaning!



Was about to say the same, but I guess it was unnecessary.
Posted 6 months ago by bruceandjenna    [ Reply ]
Just No.
Posted 6 months ago by bruceandjenna    [ Reply ]
This gives the word unnecessary new meaning!
Posted 8 months ago by johnfiva    [ Reply ]
McIlwaine hung out in NYC w Hendrix around the time of this album…maybe a bit earlier. He was a big help/influence (Up from the Skies)
Posted 8 months ago by peacockg    [ Reply ]
Can't top the original. 
Posted 9 months ago by acbauer    [ Reply ]
thought it was phoebe snow
Posted 11 months ago by idiot_wind    [ Reply ]
Now I've gotta go dig up DOM.
Posted 1 year ago by Steely_D    [ Reply ]
 dewhead wrote:

Sounds like a Joni Mitchell wannabe.... I can't imagine why anybody would want that.. definitely suck-o barf-o in my book.

I don't hear JM, but definitely Joan Armatrading. Which is just fine with me.
c.

Posted 2 years ago by cc_rider    [ Reply ]
I'm generally not a fan of covers, but this one is phenomenal. As good as, if not better, than the original.
Posted 2 years ago by handyrae    [ Reply ]
She actually sings it in a lower key than Steve Winwood!
Posted 2 years ago by thundrpants    [ Reply ]
I used to see her perform regularly in "Alberts Hall" upstairs at the Brunny (Brunswick House Tavern) in Toronto. She would play a few nights and stay in one the suites upstairs where she would hold court after performances. She was a mean guitarist and had a fantastic raunchy voice. This song was her signature piece and it was well loved by my late sister and nephew!
Posted 2 years ago by patmvcr    [ Reply ]
Good try Ellen, but Mr. Winwood and his band created a timeless masterpiece that could only be weakly approached.
Posted 2 years ago by meatmike    [ Reply ]
Sounds like a Joni Mitchell wannabe.... I can't imagine why anybody would want that.. definitely suck-o barf-o in my book.
Posted 5 years ago by dewhead    [ Reply ]
Just an observation... this record is from 1972 and Ellen is now 72 years young this year!
Posted 6 years ago by Stephen_Phillips    [ Reply ]
 dwhayslett wrote:

I think Proclivities was making a metric system joke.

 
I think you're making an assumption about my assumption about Proclivites' assumption about what crispynz1 said. {#Drunk}
Posted 6 years ago by ziggytrix    [ Reply ]
 Jelani wrote:
bleh. too much vocal noodling for me. Kills the mood of the original.

 
Nailed it.
Posted 6 years ago by Typesbad    [ Reply ]
Yes; this is the problem.  I was trying to figure out why I don't like it. Sounds like she's trying too hard. 


Jelani wrote:
bleh. too much vocal noodling for me. Kills the mood of the original.

 

Posted 6 years ago by Beanie    [ Reply ]
 ShelleyFarrow wrote:
So, this is the song that convinces me to join in as a RP commenter, hmmm, interesting...  Love her breathy voice. Speaks to me. I've been listening for years, probably 7 years and I can't think of anything I enjoy listening to more. Friends over last weekend, my hubby and our friend took many turns introducing us to new and old music. On the last day of the visit our friend turned to me and asked what do I want to listen to? I deferred saying go ahead "you can be the dj." Afterward I realized my choice would have been, Radio Paradise. My go to. Thank you for allowing me to go about my business in enjoyment while you go about yours. It is on my bucket list to visit your studio some day.

 
I agree.  Let the pros do what they do.  Hire a plumber, a locksmith, a handyman and listen to RP.
Posted 6 years ago by Markcaudill    [ Reply ]
 ziggytrix wrote:

The wording was vague, but I think they're saying they prefer the Blind Faith recording?
I like this, but I like her Stevie Wonder cover better. What is it about her covering songs written by Steve W's?

 
I think Proclivities was making a metric system joke.
Posted 6 years ago by dwhayslett    [ Reply ]
 Proclivities wrote:

"Miles"?  This song was written by Steve Winwood.
{#Propeller}

 
The wording was vague, but I think they're saying they prefer the Blind Faith recording?
I like this, but I like her Stevie Wonder cover better. What is it about her covering songs written by Steve W's?
Posted 6 years ago by ziggytrix    [ Reply ]
 crispynz1 wrote:
The original by miles! {#Ass}

 
Yup. The original is far better. By kilometres, though.{#Wink}

Edit: The album picture looks weird on my tablet. It's so small it looks like she's blowing cigarette smoke through her left nostril.
Posted 6 years ago by SeriousLee    [ Reply ]
 crispynz1 wrote:
The original by miles! 
 
"Miles"?  This song was written by Steve Winwood.
{#Propeller}
Posted 6 years ago by Proclivities    [ Reply ]
So, this is the song that convinces me to join in as a RP commenter, hmmm, interesting...  Love her breathy voice. Speaks to me. I've been listening for years, probably 7 years and I can't think of anything I enjoy listening to more. Friends over last weekend, my hubby and our friend took many turns introducing us to new and old music. On the last day of the visit our friend turned to me and asked what do I want to listen to? I deferred saying go ahead "you can be the dj." Afterward I realized my choice would have been, Radio Paradise. My go to. Thank you for allowing me to go about my business in enjoyment while you go about yours. It is on my bucket list to visit your studio some day.
Posted 7 years ago by ShelleyFarrow    [ Reply ]
The original by miles! {#Ass}
Posted 7 years ago by crispynz1    [ Reply ]
Not my favorite version, prefer the original one!
Posted 7 years ago by helgigermany    [ Reply ]
Nice version, but just now quit as good as Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood  Live from Madison Square Garden.
Posted 7 years ago by dtown40    [ Reply ]
Saw her a few years ago in a small venue; great songs interspersed with some great stories of the early years hanging out with Hendrix, Taj Mahal, and others.
Posted 7 years ago by stevesaw    [ Reply ]
I love her strong fine voice in this fabulous song    : )
Posted 7 years ago by hayduke2    [ Reply ]
 Jelani wrote:
bleh. too much vocal noodling for me. Kills the mood of the original.

 
That might explain in part why I am having trouble warming up to this cover.  I usually like covers.
Posted 7 years ago by westslope    [ Reply ]
how lovely to hear this version, by the far-too-little-known ellen macilwain. 
 
Posted 7 years ago by zenhead    [ Reply ]
 Ulises wrote:

Cats are for eating.

 
hahaha! I love cats and would never eat one(I don't think), but this is a funny comment.
Posted 8 years ago by Jelani    [ Reply ]
bleh. too much vocal noodling for me. Kills the mood of the original.
Posted 8 years ago by Jelani    [ Reply ]
Outstanding cover of this timeless song!
 
Posted 8 years ago by Diamond_Dog    [ Reply ]
This is not bad. I miss Ginger Baker's drums.

Why don't people cover bad songs more often—and not the great ones?
Posted 8 years ago by leafmold    [ Reply ]
 hayduke2 wrote:
Strong version imo  (looks my my sweet old gray cat Abby nuzzling' her on the album photo : )

 
Cats are for eating.
Posted 8 years ago by Ulises    [ Reply ]
Meh.
Posted 8 years ago by pxd    [ Reply ]
Strong version imo  (looks like my sweet old gray cat Abby nuzzling' her on the album photo : )
Posted 8 years ago by hayduke2    [ Reply ]
My college crush on Bonnie Raitt fizzled when a friend turned me on to Ellen. This, however, is not her best. How about some of her live stuff, like "Toehold"?
Posted 9 years ago by wgsu_1978    [ Reply ]
 AndyJ wrote:
1972 music often sounds dated... This has held up and seems familiar as well new 
I s that a "Classic" discription-? 

 
yes, sounds about right. 


Posted 9 years ago by blkstd    [ Reply ]
I see I rated this as a 3. Listening again, I can't figure out why. Bumping to a 6.  It's good.
Posted 9 years ago by Huey    [ Reply ]
Yuck. Don't like.
Posted 9 years ago by jtomato    [ Reply ]
{#Sunny}Yes, absolutely.  Her vocal style on this track is so delicious.
Posted 9 years ago by chickenstiks    [ Reply ]
{#Cheers}
Posted 9 years ago by Peter_Bradshaw    [ Reply ]
Finest 12-string Electric slide-guitarist I've ever heard.  Ellen is still making music and performing.  Hasn't lost a step.

Surprized to hear this on RP.  Lovely and pleasant rendition. 
Posted 9 years ago by Marshall_McLuhan    [ Reply ]
What a time for PSD to stop functioning {#Stop}
Posted 9 years ago by a_genuine_find    [ Reply ]
just need clapton thats all; all else is wasted
Posted 9 years ago by paisleydancer66    [ Reply ]
1972 music often sounds dated... This has held up and seems familiar as well new 
I s that a "Classic" discription-? 
Posted 10 years ago by AndyJ    [ Reply ]
It is difficult to bring smth new to the party.  Her rendition is pleasant enough, but as a cover, is not particularly inspired, imo.
Posted 10 years ago by ScottN    [ Reply ]
Nice to hear a thoughtful version of this tune. (I'm a bit tired of the original) I like the guitar arrangements along with the soulful vocals. Win/Win.
Posted 10 years ago by ziakut    [ Reply ]
I actually like this cover... intriguing.
Posted 10 years ago by Roonie    [ Reply ]
An acquired taste, one that I have.
Posted 10 years ago by jagdriver    [ Reply ]
Swing and a miss
Posted 10 years ago by meauclaire    [ Reply ]
No.  Just NO.  {#Frustrated}
Posted 10 years ago by shellbella    [ Reply ]
 djengs wrote:

Yeah, she kind of butchered that one. Like she was desperate to make it different with no intention of making it heartfelt. I'll pass.

 
For me, there is a "quasi-reverence" to the original that makes this version (albeit not a bad attempt) sound rather flippant.
Posted 10 years ago by tulfan    [ Reply ]
Somebody likes Hue and Cry's vocals.
Posted 10 years ago by DaidyBoy    [ Reply ]
I don't usually care for covers...but, cha' know..this ain't half bad.


 A female persprective on a predominately male bent .. possibly? 
Posted 10 years ago by coolpeople_rule    [ Reply ]
Blind Faith's better,but seductive voice did the job.
Posted 10 years ago by Coldcreek    [ Reply ]
I agree with below's quote - this song is so good it's hard Not to like it no matter who sings it
Posted 10 years ago by jocelynsart    [ Reply ]
 Typesbad wrote:
I like this song enough to be happy to hear it from other sources.  I prefer the Blind Faith version as well but their excellence shouldn't banish anyone else from taking a stab at it. 

 
Yeah, she kind of butchered that one. Like she was desperate to make it different with no intention of making it heartfelt. I'll pass.
Posted 11 years ago by djengs    [ Reply ]
Could've done withot this version,
 
Posted 11 years ago by Rh    [ Reply ]
 HazzeSwede wrote:

{#No}

...down the road,second dirt road on the right,down to the river
..keep going !


 
Her voice is interesting but the way she phrases the lyrics and occasionally comes off as indifferent turn me off. Her version just doesn't match the words. Odd cover, as if she were doing a sound check and singing whatever came to mind. 
Posted 11 years ago by kcar    [ Reply ]
Use to see Ellen performing this live in small clubs in Old Montreal. Got there early to get a front row seat. The memories..........
Posted 11 years ago by Mikey1    [ Reply ]
tasty version. Winwood should be pleased.
Posted 11 years ago by Isabeau    [ Reply ]
 Hannio wrote:


Why would anyone take it as a fact?  To have to say "in my opinion" is needless.  Everyone knows that any judgment regarding music or any art is an opinion.
 

Exactly.  There is no need for the "IMHO" and similar disclaimers.  It's a given that we are stating our opinions, humble or not.  The confusion lies when people make statements that could very well be considered to be facts.  For example, "James Joyce was a great writer" or "Beethoven was a great composer" are indeed factual statements about an artist's reputation.   It would be hard to deny this as fact, even though you might think neither deserves the reputation.  Similarly, if I say "I hate Earnest Hemmingway's writing", I am indeed stating a fact (I really do hate it).  Of course, I realize that many other think his writing is great.  If I just say "Earnest Hemmingway's writing is horrible" - that's merely an opinion.
Posted 11 years ago by rdo    [ Reply ]
I saw here in a club in old Montreal in the early 70's and she's hot stuff on a slide guitar, her singing not so much.
Posted 11 years ago by jim1964    [ Reply ]
Am I allowed to have no opinion?
BTW It ain't for me anyway.
Posted 11 years ago by TerryS    [ Reply ]
 paulmack wrote:

Of course they are - and it should be stated as such, not as fact. I know it was an opinion but to say something has 'no soul' sounds pretty final. All it takes is a simple, 'in my opinion....'.
 

Why would anyone take it as a fact?  To have to say "in my opinion" is needless.  Everyone knows that any judgment regarding music or any art is an opinion.
Posted 12 years ago by Hannio    [ Reply ]
 oldsaxon wrote:

They are allowed an opinion
 
Of course they are - and it should be stated as such, not as fact. I know it was an opinion but to say something has 'no soul' sounds pretty final. All it takes is a simple, 'in my opinion....'.
Posted 12 years ago by paulmack    [ Reply ]
 paulmack wrote:

Do you actually fail to understand that other people may not feel the same way you do - and that that would be ok? Because that's what your post seems to suggest. I suppose a lot of people (including those who gave Ellen money in support of this recording) could just have gotten it wrong - I guess that's possible - but I don't think it's likely. Your statement doesn't make me suddenly think, "I was so wrong!" But thank God we have an arbiter of true soul out there. Whatever would we do if that were not the case?!
 
They are allowed an opinion
Posted 12 years ago by oldsaxon    [ Reply ]
 bachbeet wrote:
Not liking this version.  Too much added and unnecessary variations and twisting of phrases and drawing out of words.  She just falls way short of adding any "soul" to this song.  Stevie's version is so far superior to hers and she just fails badly.
 
Do you actually fail to understand that other people may not feel the same way you do - and that that would be ok? Because that's what your post seems to suggest. I suppose a lot of people (including those who gave Ellen money in support of this recording) could just have gotten it wrong - I guess that's possible - but I don't think it's likely. Your statement doesn't make me suddenly think, "I was so wrong!" But thank God we have an arbiter of true soul out there. Whatever would we do if that were not the case?!
Posted 12 years ago by paulmack    [ Reply ]
 bachbeet wrote:
Not liking this version.  Too much added and unnecessary variations and twisting of phrases and drawing out of words.  She just falls way short of adding any "soul" to this song.  Stevie's version is so far superior to hers and she just fails badly.
 
I really like it. Folks are different, eh?
Posted 12 years ago by oldsaxon    [ Reply ]
 Mar-tay wrote:
A good cover should not sound like the original artist. A good cover is when they make the song their "own". She has done a good job of that.
 
well said.
Posted 12 years ago by lily34    [ Reply ]
Not liking this version.  Too much added and unnecessary variations and twisting of phrases and drawing out of words.  She just falls way short of adding any "soul" to this song.  Stevie's version is so far superior to hers and she just fails badly.
Posted 12 years ago by bachbeet    [ Reply ]
Stop our carping .... She's an old buddy of mine and she interprets songs the way she interprets them.  That's called creative musicianship.  If you don't like her singing, put your fingers in your ears and go "la-la-la-la".

And that's all I'm saying about that.

 
Posted 12 years ago by Misterfixit    [ Reply ]
Awful - if she liked the song so much, why did she murder it.  Jenn
Posted 12 years ago by billjenn    [ Reply ]
 HazzeSwede wrote:

{#No}

...down the road,second dirt road on the right,down to the river
..keep going !

 
Gotta agree.
Posted 12 years ago by tonypf    [ Reply ]
Liked it when it first came out, still like it.
Posted 12 years ago by kurtster    [ Reply ]
A lot of her strumming patterns made me almost think this a late-model Joni Mitchell cover.  I likey!
Posted 12 years ago by pcicatar    [ Reply ]
Me likey

Posted 13 years ago by Misterfixit    [ Reply ]

{#No}

...down the road,second dirt road on the right,down to the river
..keep going !

Posted 13 years ago by HazzeSwede    [ Reply ]
A good cover should not sound like the original artist. A good cover is when they make the song their "own". She has done a good job of that.
Posted 13 years ago by Mar-tay    [ Reply ]
 tapatia1072 wrote:
This cover is just, just ... appalling. Does not even hold a dim candle to the Blind Faith original.
 
overstate by tapatia.  this is a 'good' cover of a great track.

Posted 13 years ago by walchenbach    [ Reply ]
I like this song enough to be happy to hear it from other sources.  I prefer the Blind Faith version as well but their excellence shouldn't banish anyone else from taking a stab at it. 
Posted 13 years ago by Typesbad    [ Reply ]
from 8 straight to 10
 
Posted 13 years ago by BowTieDad    [ Reply ]
 btt wrote:
To me , this sounds like she`s trying too hard .
  That's what I was feeling, too - she's filling spaces that are better left unfilled. Good vocals, but I think she needs to practice the art of omission - as in, her voice. We don't need to hear it on every bar - subtlety and "less is more" would be nice... Not rating this because I love the song, I hate her version, and it sort of cancels out. *shrugs*

Posted 13 years ago by Cynaera    [ Reply ]
 tapatia1072 wrote:
This cover is just, just ... appalling. Does not even hold a dim candle to the Blind Faith original.
 

Listen to Bonnie Raitt's version.  It's worth a listen.  Or are you too blinded by Faith to stretch a little?
Posted 13 years ago by Rooney    [ Reply ]
Well, y'all, if you are dissing this woman's version of the sacred Can't Find My Way Home, you boys sure as hell ain't gonna like Bonnie Raitt's version either.  Now are you?  I do.  Pity you can't stretch from that he-man stance you have. Oh, whoops, I forgot. Nothing like the Stevie version.  {#No}
Posted 13 years ago by Rooney    [ Reply ]
Naw, I'm not buyin' it, unlike Stevie I believe she can find her way home.
Posted 13 years ago by sirdroseph    [ Reply ]
Another "cutout" album cover from the good old days.

Posted 13 years ago by fingerpin    [ Reply ]
Not bad, but I'm already such a hardcore fan of the original that it's hard to not wish I was just listening to Stevie.
Posted 13 years ago by bluedot    [ Reply ]
 btt wrote:
To me , this sounds like she`s trying too hard .
 

Agreed.
Posted 13 years ago by Hannio    [ Reply ]
To me , this sounds like she`s trying too hard .
Posted 13 years ago by btt    [ Reply ]
Wish I still had my vinyl of this, though it was probably worn out when I lost track of it.
Posted 13 years ago by Jeff09    [ Reply ]
Excellent cover.  She is in Steve's vocal register and takes some nice turns.
Posted 13 years ago by lemmoth    [ Reply ]
sings it like she wrote it
Posted 13 years ago by coy    [ Reply ]
I know, I know.  Some songs, artists, should NOT be touched.  She does this well — it's a great song...she does it justice.  Listen to some of her other stuff.  She also rock jazzes Born Under a Bad Sign.  Whoops.  Da Cream be vulnerable...my bad.
Posted 14 years ago by Rooney    [ Reply ]
Very well done...and I like her voice, but did this tune NEED to be covered? I personally like when a cover is really mangled differently or the original was so bad that it brings out the song's potential. Such is the case for any Stones tune or Dylan.
Posted 14 years ago by ziakut    [ Reply ]
I've always like this particular post-hippy, folksy rendition myself.  I just think she needs some conditioner in her hair.
Posted 14 years ago by AphidA    [ Reply ]
She is NOT wasted - I like this song except for the intonation on that phrase - makes me flinch every single time
Posted 14 years ago by liser    [ Reply ]
 nicolewe wrote:
not a good version...{#Naughty}
 

Agreed. I give this a '2'.

Posted 14 years ago by LowPhreak    [ Reply ]
Can't believe I gave this an 8 and didn't comment !  A great piece, and a fine cover!

Posted 14 years ago by laozilover    [ Reply ]
not a good version...{#Naughty}
Posted 14 years ago by nicolewe    [ Reply ]
Ellen is one of the most underrated performers around. Have a listen to her doing Born Under a Bad Sign. Her slide guitar playing is amazing!
Posted 14 years ago by prairie_girl    [ Reply ]
Nice version. 6
Very nice version. 7....... 8
Posted 14 years ago by CoYoT51    [ Reply ]
This cover is just, just ... appalling. Does not even hold a dim candle to the Blind Faith original.
Posted 14 years ago by tapatia1072    [ Reply ]
Is that an old 'cut out' vinyl cover I see pictured there? {#Sunny}
Posted 14 years ago by fingerpin    [ Reply ]
first listen 7. second listen 5.
Posted 14 years ago by scrubbrush    [ Reply ]
Bill, back to back , less than stellar covers!  WTF?  Or, is this a theme?
Posted 14 years ago by anotherlistener    [ Reply ]
Oh my.....say it isn't so! {#Crashcomp}
Posted 14 years ago by George_Tirebiter    [ Reply ]
This is pretty awful.
Posted 14 years ago by Cynaera    [ Reply ]
less than hohum cover of a brilliant song.

At least when The Swans covered it, they added some drama: https://popup.lala.com/popup/3891673041131536446
Posted 14 years ago by rtkmusic    [ Reply ]
 colt4x5 wrote:

I was in the Phoebe Snow camp.
 
i thought it was stevie winwood
oh dear

Posted 14 years ago by coy    [ Reply ]
Really like this cover.
Posted 14 years ago by window    [ Reply ]
I'll have to file this under wedding singer/lounge singer/Muzak-flavored covers. Nothing added, much removed.
Will have to explore her work, seems there are fans about.

Posted 14 years ago by Businessgypsy    [ Reply ]