Porcupine Tree — Lazarus
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As the cheerless towns pass my window
I can see a washed out moon through the fog
And then a voice inside my head breaks the analogue
And says:
"Follow me down to the valley below. You know,
Moonlight is bleeding from out of your soul"
I survived against the will of my twisted folk
But in the deafness of my world, the silence broke
And said:
"Follow me down to the valley below. You know,
Moonlight is bleeding from out of your soul"
"Follow me down to the valley below. You know,
Moonlight is bleeding from out of your soul"
"My David don't you worry; this cold world is not for you.
So rest your head upon me; I have strength to carry you."
(Ghosts of the twenties rising golden summers just holding you)
"Follow me down to the valley below.
(Follow me, follow me down)
You know, moonlight is bleeding from out of your soul"
"Follow me down to the valley below
(Follow me, follow me down)
You know, moonlight is bleeding from out of your soul"
Come to us Lazarus - it's time for you to go."
I can see a washed out moon through the fog
And then a voice inside my head breaks the analogue
And says:
"Follow me down to the valley below. You know,
Moonlight is bleeding from out of your soul"
I survived against the will of my twisted folk
But in the deafness of my world, the silence broke
And said:
"Follow me down to the valley below. You know,
Moonlight is bleeding from out of your soul"
"Follow me down to the valley below. You know,
Moonlight is bleeding from out of your soul"
"My David don't you worry; this cold world is not for you.
So rest your head upon me; I have strength to carry you."
(Ghosts of the twenties rising golden summers just holding you)
"Follow me down to the valley below.
(Follow me, follow me down)
You know, moonlight is bleeding from out of your soul"
"Follow me down to the valley below
(Follow me, follow me down)
You know, moonlight is bleeding from out of your soul"
Come to us Lazarus - it's time for you to go."
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Bands like Porcupine Tree, War on Drugs, Boxer Rebellion or The National all get a 10 rating if I'm drinking red wine! Oops, I almost forgot Death Cab for Cutie.
I love this song, but I do find I am basically waiting for that moment when Gavin comes back in with that awesome rapid kick drum...
lizardking wrote:
Lazarus, where are you??
Everybody in my swarming multitude of office cubicles loves this rambling and somewhat somber piano piece that ....wait...wait....LAZARUS where are you?!! This is supposed to be your comment on a song with your name! Come out, Lazarus, come out! LLRP!!
Lazarus, where are you??
I had the great fortune to see Steven sing this live in Calgary Alberta back in 2017.
hightail wrote:
I love it when something like this happens.
I live in the hilly and rural part of Portugal. First time I heard this song was as I was dog walking listening to RP through my earphones. I was walking down to the bottom of our valley visiting my friends. It was the end of the day and an early moon was showing up in the sky. It was peaceful, warm, and life felt perfect. It was magical synchronicity with the melody and lyrics.
I love it when something like this happens.
They should have left this song in the recording studio!! Love this band but not this one song.
I read "Porcupine Tree" and I don't have a bad "being pulled into a horror movie" experience? What happend? Other songs of them I usually have to rate 3 or lower, and immediately press "skip" to not get into a very bad mood. But this one - fine so far.
trogel wrote:
A solid 10
First time hearing it.
Instant 8.
Just a few minutes later... a 9.
Great stuff!!!
A solid 10
mgkiwi wrote:
and today PTree followed by Bach
GRIEG FOLLOWED BY P TREE, ONLY ON RADIOPARADISE! 
and today PTree followed by Bach
Bregi wrote:
Where did their stuff ever get played? I would have never found them if it was not for RP.
Drove 8 hours to see them in Milwaukee last Aug. Great concert even though Steven was under the weather a bit.
Last winter on a concert Steven said "One of the biggest mysteries to me is, why Lazarus didn't became a megahit".
I coulnd't agree more, probably my fav.
Where did their stuff ever get played? I would have never found them if it was not for RP.
Drove 8 hours to see them in Milwaukee last Aug. Great concert even though Steven was under the weather a bit.
Last winter on a concert Steven said "One of the biggest mysteries to me is, why Lazarus didn't became a megahit".
I coulnd't agree more, probably my fav.
I coulnd't agree more, probably my fav.
lizardking wrote:
Lazarus, where are you??
Everybody in my swarming multitude of office cubicles loves this rambling and somewhat somber piano piece that ....wait...wait....LAZARUS where are you?!! This is supposed to be your comment on a song with your name! Come out, Lazarus, come out! LLRP!!
Lazarus, where are you??
I knew it, Radio Paradise is part of a conspiracy for Porcupine Tree' world domination. Other artists & songs here are just for cover ))
I live in the hilly and rural part of Portugal. First time I heard this song was as I was dog walking listening to RP through my earphones. I was walking down to the bottom of our valley visiting my friends. It was the end of the day and an early moon was showing up in the sky. It was peaceful, warm, and life felt perfect. It was magical synchronicity with the melody and lyrics.
It makes me happy every time I hear it.
one of the best groups no one has ever heard of!! Love the Tree!
PeaceInIraq wrote:
Woot! A song with your name on it.
What ever happened to Romeo and Lazarus and that famous hotel room!🤔
Woot! A song with your name on it.
What ever happened to Romeo and Lazarus and that famous hotel room!🤔
Just watched Rick Beato's interview with Steven Wilson and he seemed really excited about his future projects. I'm just sad I never got to see PT perform live. Thanks again RP for introducing me to this band. They're one of my favorites now. 
Just great, one of my favourite bands!
modern prog rock
grows thru the porcupine tree
grows thru the porcupine tree
First time hearing it.
Instant 8.
Just a few minutes later... a 9.
Great stuff!!!
Instant 8.
Just a few minutes later... a 9.
Great stuff!!!
Edmon wrote:
Kalimaea Sas! (Good Morning)
Hello from Greece
Kalimaea Sas! (Good Morning)
Hello from Greece
New Porcupine Tree coming this summer -
GRIEG FOLLOWED BY P TREE, ONLY ON RADIOPARADISE!
Ah yes, good morning all. 6:33 am here in DC and this is a great track to awaken with. This. And coffee!
At the least on Deadwing, this very beautiful song in music and lyrics, and two grinding roaring super rockers.
Lazarus wrote:
beautiful... love it...
Woot! A song with your name on it.
beautiful... love it...
Woot! A song with your name on it.
There is something particularly poignant about listening to this song during the Covid-19 pandemic.
Limpopoking wrote:
Really?
You are so full of you know what. I discovered PT here a few years ago and they are now my alltime favorite band. I am 70. So just stick it punk.
Wot a load of bollocks
You are so full of you know what. I discovered PT here a few years ago and they are now my alltime favorite band. I am 70. So just stick it punk.
Wot a load of bollocks
smokes90 wrote:
Go see a doctor.
pretty damn average
Go see a doctor.
can music simply get more beautiful? - Simply NO - masterpiece
Steven Wilson one of the last real great ones standing
Steven Wilson one of the last real great ones standing
The piano on this is sublime
A very beautiful track. A first class artist at work here, ladies and gents.
I flew from Florida to Denver 10 days ago just so I could catch the SW concert there. It was worth it. Amazing show. I should have booked a flight to follow him to the next city.
Absolutely fabulous gigs at the Royal Albert Hall. (March 2018) They played this. Well worth catching when they go to the RoW.
Rockit9 wrote:
amen
One of the best groups ever.
amen
One of the best groups ever.
Proclivities wrote:
Still, it can be "natural enough" as you said; the older some people get, the more likely they are to be set in their opinions and perhaps become convinced that anything "newer" cannot compete with things from their "glory days". There is a sort of bias (conscious or not) which makes people believe that works which are older and more well-established must be better. Once an artist has the word "legendary" attached to their name, it it assumed by many, that their works can't be surpassed by a later artist. I'm sure we all notice that bias in some of these threads.
Still, it can be "natural enough" as you said; the older some people get, the more likely they are to be set in their opinions and perhaps become convinced that anything "newer" cannot compete with things from their "glory days". There is a sort of bias (conscious or not) which makes people believe that works which are older and more well-established must be better. Once an artist has the word "legendary" attached to their name, it it assumed by many, that their works can't be surpassed by a later artist. I'm sure we all notice that bias in some of these threads.
True. Also, in the long run we tend to remember the good things and forget the bad. That's just scientific fact and it couldn't be any other way or we would all end up very, very sad.
So we are confronted with the abysmal crap that the music industry is producing in the present every day, but we conveniently forgot about the crap we had to endure in the "glory days", and like to think that every single song in that time was on par with the few that we still hear and remember ... a comparison that can only look very bad for the present.
And by another well established psychological thing called the "halo effect", we extend that value judgement from the particular to the general. Since all the music we remember from "back then" is good, everything from back then must be good. And since so much of what we hear from the present is crap, everything from the present must be crap, until proven otherwise... which of course takes a few decades time :)
Proclivities wrote:
Maybe some people just don't share your opinion. You know better than to worry about hypothetical comparisons.
Here's the problem with opinions about creative output such as music, art, literature - even cuisine: Aesthetic opinions cannot be supported or proven through some sort of verifiable, quantitative, scientific method.
Still, it can be "natural enough" as you said; the older some people get, the more likely they are to be set in their opinions and perhaps become convinced that anything "newer" cannot compete with things from their "glory days". There is a sort of bias (conscious or not) which makes people believe that works which are older and more well-established must be better. Once an artist has the word "legendary" attached to their name, it it assumed by many, that their works can't be surpassed by a later artist. I'm sure we all notice that bias in some of these threads.
Well, if it was just a question of opinion Proclivities I would not have posted what I wrote. In the cases I obliquely referred to, folks are not familiar with Porcupine Tree.
FWIW, I find that most people who are familiar with the music and many of those are somehow or other involved in the music biz share that opinion or at least understand the foundation of that opinion.
OK, many old people do become set in their ways. But that is not what I am saying. I am saying that middled aged and older folks have busy, busy lives and little or no time to comfortably listen to new music.
I missed out on most western popular music in the late 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s because I was either in middle of nowhere and/or I was extremely busy. Mind you I did dial into modern nationalist and post-nationalist québécois pop music in the 1980s — attending Université Laval made that easier — and I feel grateful for that.
In any event, I am grateful for RP taking alternative FM radio seriously and adapting it to the digital age. RP allows me to catch up on much of what I missed. I love the RP fora. Your comments Proclivities figure among the best.
Maybe some people just don't share your opinion. You know better than to worry about hypothetical comparisons.
Here's the problem with opinions about creative output such as music, art, literature - even cuisine: Aesthetic opinions cannot be supported or proven through some sort of verifiable, quantitative, scientific method.
Still, it can be "natural enough" as you said; the older some people get, the more likely they are to be set in their opinions and perhaps become convinced that anything "newer" cannot compete with things from their "glory days". There is a sort of bias (conscious or not) which makes people believe that works which are older and more well-established must be better. Once an artist has the word "legendary" attached to their name, it it assumed by many, that their works can't be surpassed by a later artist. I'm sure we all notice that bias in some of these threads.
Well, if it was just a question of opinion Proclivities I would not have posted what I wrote. In the cases I obliquely referred to, folks are not familiar with Porcupine Tree.
FWIW, I find that most people who are familiar with the music and many of those are somehow or other involved in the music biz share that opinion or at least understand the foundation of that opinion.
OK, many old people do become set in their ways. But that is not what I am saying. I am saying that middled aged and older folks have busy, busy lives and little or no time to comfortably listen to new music.
I missed out on most western popular music in the late 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s because I was either in middle of nowhere and/or I was extremely busy. Mind you I did dial into modern nationalist and post-nationalist québécois pop music in the 1980s — attending Université Laval made that easier — and I feel grateful for that.
In any event, I am grateful for RP taking alternative FM radio seriously and adapting it to the digital age. RP allows me to catch up on much of what I missed. I love the RP fora. Your comments Proclivities figure among the best.
westslope wrote:
Maybe some people just don't share your opinion. You know better than to worry about hypothetical comparisons.
Here's the problem with opinions about creative output such as music, art, literature - even cuisine: Aesthetic opinions cannot be supported or proven through some sort of verifiable, quantitative, scientific method.
Still, it can be "natural enough" as you said; the older some people get, the more likely they are to be set in their opinions and perhaps become convinced that anything "newer" cannot compete with things from their "glory days". There is a sort of bias (conscious or not) which makes people believe that works which are older and more well-established must be better. Once an artist has the word "legendary" attached to their name, it it assumed by many, that their works can't be surpassed by a later artist. I'm sure we all notice that bias in some of these threads.
I keep telling everybody that this band is better than Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, early Genesis, on par with King Crimson, etc., and all I get are incredulous looks.
Here's the problem with middle-aged and old people. They have little time, energy and head space to absorb new music. Natural enough I guess.
Maybe some people just don't share your opinion. You know better than to worry about hypothetical comparisons.
Here's the problem with opinions about creative output such as music, art, literature - even cuisine: Aesthetic opinions cannot be supported or proven through some sort of verifiable, quantitative, scientific method.
Still, it can be "natural enough" as you said; the older some people get, the more likely they are to be set in their opinions and perhaps become convinced that anything "newer" cannot compete with things from their "glory days". There is a sort of bias (conscious or not) which makes people believe that works which are older and more well-established must be better. Once an artist has the word "legendary" attached to their name, it it assumed by many, that their works can't be surpassed by a later artist. I'm sure we all notice that bias in some of these threads.
Everybody in my swarming multitude of office cubicles loves this rambling and somewhat somber piano piece that ....wait...wait....LAZARUS where are you?!! This is supposed to be your comment on a song with your name! Come out, Lazarus, come out! LLRP!!
Chills. 
9 >>> 10 😀
love that rambling piano, very nice..
dkgillett wrote:
It might be so 'cause they are extremely talented! And Bill might be an exceptionally talent-sensitive person and thus managing such an excuisite-sounding radio!
Bill must be a fan of Porcupine Tree. Hear them often, which is a good thing! Thx Bill!
It might be so 'cause they are extremely talented! And Bill might be an exceptionally talent-sensitive person and thus managing such an excuisite-sounding radio!
dkgillett wrote:
I was thinking about the exact same thing few days ago, listening to "stranger by the minute".
Bill must be a fan of Porcupine Tree. Hear them often, which is a good thing! Thx Bill!
I was thinking about the exact same thing few days ago, listening to "stranger by the minute".
Bill must be a fan of Porcupine Tree. Hear them often, which is a good thing! Thx Bill!
Philchill wrote:
Some more detail here, article published just a few days after you posted that!
https://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/steven_wilson_of_porcupine_tree/
Great interview!
I read that Steven Wilson is a big fan of XTC. Interesting. XTC has mostly fallen flat. Will listen a little harder the next time.
Currently trying to get into Kate Bush, another favourite song writer/performer of Steven Wilson. It ain't always easy.
Some more detail here, article published just a few days after you posted that!
https://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/steven_wilson_of_porcupine_tree/
Great interview!
I read that Steven Wilson is a big fan of XTC. Interesting. XTC has mostly fallen flat. Will listen a little harder the next time.
Currently trying to get into Kate Bush, another favourite song writer/performer of Steven Wilson. It ain't always easy.
westslope wrote:
Some more detail here, article published just a few days after you posted that!
https://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/steven_wilson_of_porcupine_tree/
The music on this album was originally supposed to be the soundtrack to a film Wilson had planned with his Danish visual arts colleague Lasse Hoile. It never materialized.
Wilson, to our everlasting benefit, did not get discouraged and kept cranking out music.
Does anybody know what that film was supposed to be about?
Still love this what was originally a gateway song for me.
Wilson, to our everlasting benefit, did not get discouraged and kept cranking out music.
Does anybody know what that film was supposed to be about?
Still love this what was originally a gateway song for me.
Some more detail here, article published just a few days after you posted that!
https://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/steven_wilson_of_porcupine_tree/
Deadwings is a parked domain,
It is fine with me.
It is fine with me.
The music on this album was originally supposed to be the soundtrack to a film Wilson had planned with his Danish visual arts colleague Lasse Hoile. It never materialized.
Wilson, to our everlasting benefit, did not get discouraged and kept cranking out music.
Does anybody know what that film was supposed to be about?
Still love this what was originally a gateway song for me.
Wilson, to our everlasting benefit, did not get discouraged and kept cranking out music.
Does anybody know what that film was supposed to be about?
Still love this what was originally a gateway song for me.
molson wrote:
mmmm
BLISSFUL
mmmm
BLISSFUL
Extraordinary song.
YesI saw Steven Wilson on last monday, in concert in Milan. As usual, he and his musicians were great from live! 
This song really resonated with me today.
The slowed down tempo and more grown-up treatment struck a nerve.
Great comments. Like you, I keep picking up Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson CDs. Don't have them all yet.
Get off my lawn.
smackiepipe wrote:.
Uh, this 51 year old is here to tell you that Porcupine Tree has been at the top of my listening list since I discovered them around the Stupid Dream album, and I own every commercial release of theirs, plus Steven's solo work, and the Blackfield albums.
Taking a dump is 'natural enough, I guess,' but think before you pigeon-hole an entire group of music listeners.
And get off my lawn.
The slowed down tempo and more grown-up treatment struck a nerve.
Great comments. Like you, I keep picking up Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson CDs. Don't have them all yet.
Get off my lawn.
smackiepipe wrote:.
Uh, this 51 year old is here to tell you that Porcupine Tree has been at the top of my listening list since I discovered them around the Stupid Dream album, and I own every commercial release of theirs, plus Steven's solo work, and the Blackfield albums.
Taking a dump is 'natural enough, I guess,' but think before you pigeon-hole an entire group of music listeners.
And get off my lawn.
Everybody in my alien space craft loves this emotive song...
kz1300a1 wrote:
Sadly, I feel the same. This just comes over as flimsy to my ear, particularly the vocals.
I like the band but I have to say I hit skip when this one plays.
Sadly, I feel the same. This just comes over as flimsy to my ear, particularly the vocals.
love that rambling piano, very nice..
fredriley wrote:
Well, it is your song, after all :)
I wish it were! This song is good for the ears...
hope you are having a great weekend, fredriley...
Well, it is your song, after all :)
I wish it were! This song is good for the ears...
hope you are having a great weekend, fredriley...
Lazarus wrote:
beautiful... love it...
Well, it is your song, after all :)
beautiful... love it...
Well, it is your song, after all :)
westslope wrote:
Having listened to the album quite a few more times since my original post, I have to say that I agree with you here, westslope. Thank you for your input.
Lazarus is melodic, sad, tragic, and accessible. Raven that refused to sing is melodic, in a couple of spots sad, but not tragic and definitely not easily accessible.
The Raven CD is to recent Steven Wilson solo material what In Absentia was to Porcupine Tree. The best.
Wilson can now quit music, go into salmon farming or travel the world shooting pictures, and be extremely proud of what he has accomplished.
Having listened to the album quite a few more times since my original post, I have to say that I agree with you here, westslope. Thank you for your input.
Lazarus wrote:
You must be a big shot; famous rock bands writing songs about you, and all. ; )
beautiful... love it...
You must be a big shot; famous rock bands writing songs about you, and all. ; )
I like the band but I have to say I hit skip when this one plays.
Hit me at the right time. 8 > 9. What a lovely melody. From a band that can crank up some sonic whup ass.
What is amazing about this band is it's ability (actually Steven Wilson's) to come up with jewels like this song which are mixed on their albums with songs of dark deep neo-prog rock. Great song!
every rock band's gotta have their prom song.
Another masterpiece from a band that has done too many. ;)
can you stop plying this sappy music
jkamm14 wrote:
So that's about 2% of the songs in the last 12 hours. Doesn't seem over-the-top.
PT was played 3 times in the past 12 hours? Wow, that's a tad excessive, unless you're an über-fan I suppose.
So that's about 2% of the songs in the last 12 hours. Doesn't seem over-the-top.
Lazarus wrote:
beautiful... love it...
Obviously
beautiful... love it...
Obviously
westslope wrote:
Wot a load of bollocks
Here's the problem with middle-aged and old people. They have little time, energy and head space to absorb new music. Natural enough I guess.
Wot a load of bollocks
absolutely beautiful.
PT was played 3 times in the past 12 hours. Sorry, what's the problem?
jkamm14 wrote:
PT was played 3 times in the past 12 hours. Sorry, what's the problem?
jkamm14 wrote:
PT was played 3 times in the past 12 hours? Wow, that's a tad excessive, unless you're an über-fan I suppose.
PT was played 3 times in the past 12 hours? Wow, that's a tad excessive, unless you're an über-fan I suppose.
beautiful... love it...
JIan wrote:
Just curious: How so, westslope? I just started listening to SW's Raven project, so I haven't formed a strong opinion about it yet.
Just curious: How so, westslope? I just started listening to SW's Raven project, so I haven't formed a strong opinion about it yet.
Lazarus is melodic, sad, tragic, and accessible. Raven that refused to sing is melodic, in a couple of spots sad, but not tragic and definitely not easily accessible.
The Raven CD is to recent Steven Wilson solo material what In Absentia was to Porcupine Tree. The best.
Wilson can now quit music, go into salmon farming or travel the world shooting pictures, and be extremely proud of what he has accomplished.
What a lovely piece. Starting at an 8. Great images and wondrous melody.
westslope wrote:
Just curious: How so, westslope? I just started listening to SW's Raven project, so I haven't formed a strong opinion about it yet.
Gorgeous as always.
Quite a contrast to Steven Wilson's Raven that refused to sing project.
Just curious: How so, westslope? I just started listening to SW's Raven project, so I haven't formed a strong opinion about it yet.
Gorgeous as always.
Quite a contrast to Steven Wilson's Raven that refused to sing project.
Everybody in my church loves this song...
ziakut wrote:
This is very emotive... nice piano work... love it...
One of the very few "10"s I'll ever give.
This is very emotive... nice piano work... love it...
One of the very few "10"s I'll ever give.
smackiepipe wrote:
Uh, this 51 year old is here to tell you that Porcupine Tree has been at the top of my listening list since I discovered them around the Stupid Dream album, and I own every commercial release of theirs, plus Steven's solo work, and the Blackfield albums.
Taking a dump is 'natural enough, I guess,' but think before you pigeon-hole an entire group of music listeners.
And get off my lawn.
Agreed.....thanks for the reply
This old fart loves prog-rock(new and old)
Uh, this 51 year old is here to tell you that Porcupine Tree has been at the top of my listening list since I discovered them around the Stupid Dream album, and I own every commercial release of theirs, plus Steven's solo work, and the Blackfield albums.
Taking a dump is 'natural enough, I guess,' but think before you pigeon-hole an entire group of music listeners.
And get off my lawn.
Agreed.....thanks for the reply
This old fart loves prog-rock(new and old)
..following High Violets ("Wheel") completes a mood somehow..perfection RP! (thx)..
fine fine ein tolles stück
Deadwing wrote:
Yes Deadwing, Gavin is a stroke of genius as are all the members of this band. But I still skip this song every time I hear the album. Sandwitched in betweeen Shallow and Halo, it just breaks up the intensity of an otherwise phenomenal album. If it was placed next to "The Start of Something Beautiful" or Melloton Scratch, it may make better sense. But I for one am not going to mess with Steven's song placement, even and especially with my ipod. Steven will come after me, smash or shoot my ipod to kingdom come.
Gavin's drum fills on this song are so lovely
Yes Deadwing, Gavin is a stroke of genius as are all the members of this band. But I still skip this song every time I hear the album. Sandwitched in betweeen Shallow and Halo, it just breaks up the intensity of an otherwise phenomenal album. If it was placed next to "The Start of Something Beautiful" or Melloton Scratch, it may make better sense. But I for one am not going to mess with Steven's song placement, even and especially with my ipod. Steven will come after me, smash or shoot my ipod to kingdom come.
New PT Video posted today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n9JgUizq8M
Gavin's drum fills on this song are so lovely
Ahhh, yes. I needed a little Tree. This hits the spot.
ShaunJ wrote:
Mentioning Yanni in a PT thread is a laugh.
Yanni is not in the same class as Porcupine Tree
I knew it would probably piss every one off here, that's why I posted it. 
Fact is though, it's true, and coming from me it's not a diss 'cuz I really like some Yanni stuff.
Mentioning Yanni in a PT thread is a laugh.
Yanni is not in the same class as Porcupine Tree
I knew it would probably piss every one off here, that's why I posted it. Fact is though, it's true, and coming from me it's not a diss 'cuz I really like some Yanni stuff.
Exactly what I needed at the end of the day, the end of the week, the end of the month. Thanks Bill.
westslope wrote:
Uh, this 51 year old is here to tell you that Porcupine Tree has been at the top of my listening list since I discovered them around the Stupid Dream album, and I own every commercial release of theirs, plus Steven's solo work, and the Blackfield albums.
Taking a dump is 'natural enough, I guess,' but think before you pigeon-hole an entire group of music listeners.
And get off my lawn.
Here's the problem with middle-aged and old people. They have little time, energy and head space to absorb new music. Natural enough I guess.
Uh, this 51 year old is here to tell you that Porcupine Tree has been at the top of my listening list since I discovered them around the Stupid Dream album, and I own every commercial release of theirs, plus Steven's solo work, and the Blackfield albums.
Taking a dump is 'natural enough, I guess,' but think before you pigeon-hole an entire group of music listeners.
And get off my lawn.
lkovathana wrote:
Don't be sorry...it's ok not to like a song. It's your opinion...and that's ok. Even if you ARE wrong.
Sorry, this song is terrible.
Don't be sorry...it's ok not to like a song. It's your opinion...and that's ok. Even if you ARE wrong.
Sorry, this song is terrible.
First time I've heard this. They have such a great sound. You can recognize them (lead vocalist is distinctive) — yet many tracks are quite different. The unfamiliar might not know it's the same band. Which is good.
Dalebarely wrote:
maybe you get incredulous looks for making ridiculous statements.
Better than King Crimson I will grant you, that isn't a feat.
But better than Led Zeppelin? Seriously?
Why don't you try something reasonable, like, "Hey you should listen to this band, they are really good", people would be less likely to peg you as a loon.
Yes and this too.
maybe you get incredulous looks for making ridiculous statements.
Better than King Crimson I will grant you, that isn't a feat.
But better than Led Zeppelin? Seriously?
Why don't you try something reasonable, like, "Hey you should listen to this band, they are really good", people would be less likely to peg you as a loon.
Yes and this too.
westslope wrote:
Maybe that is true, I don't know however I don't know what this has to do with Porcupine Tree, a mainstream band that has been around for 25 years.
I keep telling everybody that this band is better than Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, early Genesis, on par with King Crimson, etc., and all I get are incredulous looks.
Here's the problem with middle-aged and old people. They have little time, energy and head space to absorb new music. Natural enough I guess.
Maybe that is true, I don't know however I don't know what this has to do with Porcupine Tree, a mainstream band that has been around for 25 years.
westslope wrote:
Well, in my experience — the music I love is inseparable from the time period in which I listened to it. Memories become intertwined, and are reinforced by, the music we listened to. I love hearing new music (or I wouldn't be here) but there is something special about the old music I know that newer music can never quite replicate — as much as I may love it.
Or, I could just be an old geezer set in his ways.
I keep telling everybody that this band is better than Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, early Genesis, on par with King Crimson, etc., and all I get are incredulous looks.
Here's the problem with middle-aged and old people. They have little time, energy and head space to absorb new music. Natural enough I guess.
Well, in my experience — the music I love is inseparable from the time period in which I listened to it. Memories become intertwined, and are reinforced by, the music we listened to. I love hearing new music (or I wouldn't be here) but there is something special about the old music I know that newer music can never quite replicate — as much as I may love it.
Or, I could just be an old geezer set in his ways.
westslope wrote:
maybe you get incredulous looks for making ridiculous statements.
Better than King Crimson I will grant you, that isn't a feat.
But better than Led Zeppelin? Seriously?
Why don't you try something reasonable, like, "Hey you should listen to this band, they are really good", people would be less likely to peg you as a loon.
I keep telling everybody that this band is better than Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, early Genesis, on par with King Crimson, etc., and all I get are incredulous looks.
Here's the problem with middle-aged and old people. They have little time, energy and head space to absorb new music. Natural enough I guess.
maybe you get incredulous looks for making ridiculous statements.
Better than King Crimson I will grant you, that isn't a feat.
But better than Led Zeppelin? Seriously?
Why don't you try something reasonable, like, "Hey you should listen to this band, they are really good", people would be less likely to peg you as a loon.
I keep telling everybody that this band is better than Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, early Genesis, on par with King Crimson, etc., and all I get are incredulous looks.
Here's the problem with middle-aged and old people. They have little time, energy and head space to absorb new music. Natural enough I guess.
B L I S S......Love this song and band!
Deadwing wrote:
I think the excessive love for this band stems from people realizing that there is a band out there recording NOW that is just as talented, creative, and innovative as The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rush, The Who etc. and they don't get airplay because Clear Channel is run by a lot of tin eared corrupt ignorant soulless 75 year old golf buddies who think people should just listen to the same crap they listened to in High School and College... "Freebird" anyone? :P
Yo Dwing..you obviously have thing for this band, but I do believe your blowing their importance and musical worth WAY out of proportion..they aren't bad, but hardly some sort of musical revolution or groundbreaking band..sorry.....bring on Motley Crue (kind of kidding)
I think the excessive love for this band stems from people realizing that there is a band out there recording NOW that is just as talented, creative, and innovative as The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rush, The Who etc. and they don't get airplay because Clear Channel is run by a lot of tin eared corrupt ignorant soulless 75 year old golf buddies who think people should just listen to the same crap they listened to in High School and College... "Freebird" anyone? :P
Yo Dwing..you obviously have thing for this band, but I do believe your blowing their importance and musical worth WAY out of proportion..they aren't bad, but hardly some sort of musical revolution or groundbreaking band..sorry.....bring on Motley Crue (kind of kidding)
Deadwing wrote:
I think the excessive love for this band stems from people realizing that there is a band out there recording NOW that is just as talented, creative, and innovative as The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rush, The Who etc. and they don't get airplay because Clear Channel is run by a lot of tin eared corrupt ignorant soulless 75 year old golf buddies who think people should just listen to the same crap they listened to in High School and College... "Freebird" anyone? :P
Very insightful actually - this totally answered that very question for me! ....as someone new to PT and trying to stay open to them, with initial thoughts of I don't fully get the "over the top' love of them, a helpful response. They are very good, but have not got under my skin - yet! Much obliged.
I think the excessive love for this band stems from people realizing that there is a band out there recording NOW that is just as talented, creative, and innovative as The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rush, The Who etc. and they don't get airplay because Clear Channel is run by a lot of tin eared corrupt ignorant soulless 75 year old golf buddies who think people should just listen to the same crap they listened to in High School and College... "Freebird" anyone? :P
Very insightful actually - this totally answered that very question for me! ....as someone new to PT and trying to stay open to them, with initial thoughts of I don't fully get the "over the top' love of them, a helpful response. They are very good, but have not got under my skin - yet! Much obliged.
Deadwing wrote:
I think the excessive love for this band stems from people realizing that there is a band out there recording NOW that is just as talented, creative, and innovative as The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rush, The Who etc. and they don't get airplay because Clear Channel is run by a lot of tin eared corrupt ignorant soulless 75 year old golf buddies who think people should just listen to the same crap they listened to in High School and College... "Freebird" anyone? :P
What she said...
I think the excessive love for this band stems from people realizing that there is a band out there recording NOW that is just as talented, creative, and innovative as The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rush, The Who etc. and they don't get airplay because Clear Channel is run by a lot of tin eared corrupt ignorant soulless 75 year old golf buddies who think people should just listen to the same crap they listened to in High School and College... "Freebird" anyone? :P
What she said...
You tell 'em Deadwing!
Nice to hear one of the gateway songs again.
Smoove_D wrote:
I think the excessive love for this band stems from people realizing that there is a band out there recording NOW that is just as talented, creative, and innovative as The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rush, The Who etc. and they don't get airplay because Clear Channel is run by a lot of tin eared corrupt ignorant soulless 75 year old golf buddies who think people should just listen to the same crap they listened to in High School and College... "Freebird" anyone? :P
I usually don't understand the excessive love for this band, but I really like this particular song.
I think the excessive love for this band stems from people realizing that there is a band out there recording NOW that is just as talented, creative, and innovative as The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rush, The Who etc. and they don't get airplay because Clear Channel is run by a lot of tin eared corrupt ignorant soulless 75 year old golf buddies who think people should just listen to the same crap they listened to in High School and College... "Freebird" anyone? :P
rdo wrote:
Neither, it's Yanni.
Mentioning Yanni in a PT thread is a laugh.
Yanni is not in the same class as Porcupine Tree
Neither, it's Yanni.
Mentioning Yanni in a PT thread is a laugh.
Yanni is not in the same class as Porcupine Tree
Ouch. "The Sound of Muzak", indeed. 
nate917 wrote:
Ben Gibbard never wrote anything this beautiful, and I'm not even a PT fan.
Ben Gibbard never wrote anything this beautiful, and I'm not even a PT fan.
Truly one of the most unrecognised bands of the last decade. Brilliant song.
westslope wrote:
Neither, it's Yanni.
Who plays piano on this song? Barbieri or Wilson?
Neither, it's Yanni.
Well that is funny. Just as I was reading a story of the "Hole in the Rock" expedition, where pioneers had to struggle to get their wagons down a dangerous trail, this song said "follow me down to the valley below."
1wolfy: Is it longing or whistful resignation?
God, I love this band's "ordinary" songs!
I love the part "My David don't you worry this cold world is not for you"..I can feel the longing in his voice 
pretty damn average
westslope wrote:
*gulp*
Swe Tex: Be afraid. Feel the fear!
Nice to hear the gateway song again.
*gulp*
Swe Tex: Be afraid. Feel the fear!
Nice to hear the gateway song again.
jnesser wrote:
Really? ANYTHING? Wow...The PT fans here are starting to scare me....
Anything Porcupine Tree does is excellent. They are musical geniuses.
Really? ANYTHING? Wow...The PT fans here are starting to scare me....
socalhol wrote:
While I'm not hugely in love with this song (in fact I do like it in the proper context), it being sandwiched betweeen Shallow and Halo really makes it easy to skip whenever I listen to this CD. The first song, Deadwing, is very complex and hard rocking. Shallow is just plain knock the doors down kinda song, and Halo is an F-You to all overzealous Christians. This song just doesn't fit the mold of the others and seems out of context for me. That's why I rarely listen to it other than here. They did this song in concert for the Fear of a Blank Planet Tour and it was a real gem, made me appreciate more - but that being said, probably one of least favorite PT songs.
I am not that enamored with most of their work, but this song I like. (I think because I had always thought it was Death Cab for Cutie doing this.....)
While I'm not hugely in love with this song (in fact I do like it in the proper context), it being sandwiched betweeen Shallow and Halo really makes it easy to skip whenever I listen to this CD. The first song, Deadwing, is very complex and hard rocking. Shallow is just plain knock the doors down kinda song, and Halo is an F-You to all overzealous Christians. This song just doesn't fit the mold of the others and seems out of context for me. That's why I rarely listen to it other than here. They did this song in concert for the Fear of a Blank Planet Tour and it was a real gem, made me appreciate more - but that being said, probably one of least favorite PT songs.