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Television — 1880 Or So
Album: Television
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Released: 1992
Length: 3:28
Plays (last 30 days): 1
O rose of my heart, can't you see
I don't belong to misery
Though she speaks fine with subtle art
Such misery clothes the rose of my heart.

Now what I see in the long twilight
A star falls down on a hill so white
On a hill so white.

A face that glows in a golden hue
No-one in this world knows what they do
I take my oath and I make my vow
For the tender things are upon me now.

In the fragrance sweet of the evening air
I could leave this world quite without a care.

O rose of my heart, the vision dims
the time is brief, now the shadow swims,
A powerful a real fine hat
Cause that's for you and that's where that's at.

Now what I see in the long twilight
A star falls down on a hill so white.

O rose of my heart
O rose of my heart
O rose of my heart.
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Never heard of this band before.  Sounds good.  Thanks again RP.
Marquee Moon
 Veniceholly wrote:
Lloyd Cole, right?
 
 
These guys were around long before Lloyd Cole.
Lloyd Cole, anyone?
This is new to me.....an I am so very impressed.  Thank you RP
Sounds like Matt from The National. Can't stand his voice either.
 horseplayer wrote:
The inscrutable Bill plays this but nothing else from Television, go figure.  OK yes, Marquee Moon is on the playlist, but still, there's a whole lot more from these guys that seems like it would fit on Radio Paradise.  No offense Bill, still love ya, but geez!  


 
Agree.  Elevation, Foxhole, Glory, Call Mr Lee .  All worthy of RP play. 

I am almost certain the 2 people who listen from Mongolia would enjoy more Television.


The inscrutable Bill plays this but nothing else from Television, go figure.  OK yes, Marquee Moon is on the playlist, but still, there's a whole lot more from these guys that seems like it would fit on Radio Paradise.  No offense Bill, still love ya, but geez!  

 pcc wrote:
Reminds me of Future Islands..

 
The members of Future Islands were around 12 years old when this album came out and were several years away from being born when Television's first album was released.
Richard Loyd is the guy doing the work on this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhDI0HN9HH0


Check out Verlaines style on the Jazzmaster back in the day. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtZYdVNflsA
Is this the vocalist for The Church"? "...like a real...rep...tile"
 Yup. Sounds like Commotion's "Perfect Skin". 
tembaco wrote:

Me too. 

 


 Floyd62 wrote:
Wow, I would have bet that this was Lloyd Cole. 
 
Me too. 
Wow, I would have bet that this was Lloyd Cole. 
YAY! I haven't heard this one in so long!!!!
 {#Yes}crockydile wrote:
This sounds like a Ric Ocasek project...
 

 idiot_wind wrote:
The guy has something stuck in his throat. He's just gotta hack it up and stop the recording! 

 
Verlaine has always sounded strangled with his singing. 
 idiot_wind wrote:
The guy has something stuck in his throat. He's just gotta hack it up and stop the recording! 

 
Go back to listening to Justin Bieber
The guy has something stuck in his throat. He's just gotta hack it up and stop the recording! 
Exactly.
 

Ptijoc wrote:
Great to hear, Tom Verlaine and Télevision. This song is not my favorite, but i'm so glad to hear TV. More, more!

 


Please, pay this guy a voice!
 pcc wrote:
Reminds me of Future Islands..

 

Yes, very similar to that FI song we hear occasionally on RP.
Don't bogart that joint my friend.  
Still relevant, for too long overlooked, more, much more please.
Great to hear, Tom Verlaine and Télevision. This song is not my favorite, but i'm so glad to hear TV. More, more!
 coloradojohn wrote:
Visionary... Brilliant... Understated Understanding of All and Everything set to a grooving beat rife with urgent angstful urbanified lyrics.

 
yeah yeah yeah!  : )
Great band.  More please.
 Bobert_ParkCity wrote:
I see no evil in playing this...

 
...and I spoke no evil while it played.
Reminds me of Future Islands..
Love this band, always happy to hear anything they have done.
Visionary... Brilliant... Understated Understanding of All and Everything set to a grooving beat rife with urgent angstful urbanified lyrics.
 Veniceholly wrote:
Lloyd Cole, right?
 

 
LOL. Close, but nobody can approach Robert Quine's NYC guitar.
I hear Lou Reed more than anyone else. Quite likeable.
 softjeans wrote:

I was just thinking these guys listened to a lot of Bowie.

 
And Bowie then listened to a lot of Television and Verlaine afterward.
 crockydile wrote:
This sounds like a Ric Ocasek project...before he hung out with good musicians.
 
I won't call you clueless - I'll just ask that you listen to more Television or at the very least read about how ridiculously amazing Tom Verlaine and Richard Lloyd are as musicians.
Lloyd Cole, right?
 
More of this great band please.

Just saw them a few month's back.

What amzaing players. 
I was so grateful when this album came out ... was a little disappointed overall at the time ... but this song sounds great to me now.  Less is truly more ... especially when the less is a few choice notes from these guys.
Sounds so fresh. Hard to believe this is now over 20 years old..
How 'bout a few more cuts from "Marquee Moon" added to the mix here?
that song is super man!  Thank you intellegent folks for the little history bits, wondering did the Voidoids ever make other RP music besides Blank Gen?
 toterola wrote:
It ain't "Marquee Moon", but it'll do... {#Yes}

 


i also hear cole a bit. love him, too.
 toterola wrote:
It ain't "Marquee Moon", but it'll do... {#Yes}
 

Naw...GIMME "FRICTION"!
 Stingray wrote:
For a second I really thought it was LLOYD COLE!

PS
Is Lloyd Cole an issue here at all...?


 
Agreed, close your eyes, open your ears & Lloyd Cole comes instantly to mind.  Never a bad thing...
It ain't "Marquee Moon", but it'll do... {#Yes}
Used to jam to this in Tokyo wishing for supplements when there were none to be had...
Well now I'm where there's no place higher, and yup, it's come to life in ways expected that never get old...
God, what a great thing in my life Radio Paradise is!  {#Drummer}{#Propeller}{#Dancingbanana_2}  
Always great to hear...
{#Dancingbanana}woo hoo!  be still my tapping toes ...
 aspicer wrote:
Love this tune - never heard it before RP!  I will say that Marquee Moon is a MUST own album if you even remotely like this.  It was a landmark and influential album for many 80's bands.
 
...and quite a few '70s bands as well.
I see no evil in playing this...
What great guitar work!  
Love this tune - never heard it before RP!  I will say that Marquee Moon is a MUST own album if you even remotely like this.  It was a landmark and influential album for many 80's bands.
Can anybody help?  Did they do a song circa 1980 called When (Two?) Worlds Collide???  Does anybody know?? 
These guys are so good...Marquee Moon and THIS could be all I'd need for awhile if I had some good supplements...
 crockydile wrote:
This sounds like a Ric Ocasek project...before he hung out with good musicians.

 
Television was around when Ric Ocasek was still playing in cover bands.
I think they sound kinda like Yo La Tengo.  Pretty good, tho.
Wrong Lloyd.

Richard Lloyd and Tom Verlaine - one of the greatest guitar duos of all time.

For a second I really thought it was LLOYD COLE!

PS
Is Lloyd Cole an issue here at all...?


 EssexTex wrote:
Poor Mr Hell, if he read these comments he'd feel quite dejected....I refer to the amount of other people who are reminded of someone else before him...err

 
I thought it was Tom Verlaine singing.

Never heard this before, I like it!{#Bananajam}
 softjeans wrote:

I was just thinking these guys listened to a lot of Bowie.
 
I hear a little bit of Love and Rockets, myself.

 babyjuice wrote:

 
I was just thinking these guys listened to a lot of Bowie.


 crockydile wrote:
This sounds like a Ric Ocasek project...before he hung out with good musicians.
 
Richard Lloyd is an excellent guitarist.

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This sounds like a Ric Ocasek project...before he hung out with good musicians.

Poor Mr Hell, if he read these comments he'd feel quite dejected....I refer to the amount of other people who are reminded of someone else before him...err

Never heard this before...
But I'm very intrigued!
Gonna have to check out more from them.

 andrewimft wrote:
Who are these guys? And why do they sound like other people?

Well, these guys were a very influential early new wave band in the late 1970's/early 80's that never had much commercial success but had a cult following. Critics in NYC kept asking who'd get big first, the Talking Heads or these guys. These guys always made literary lyrics with interesting songs built on often elaborate quirky guitar riffs. Nice to hear them here— they should be a staple of alternative radio.

 
Agreed.  Actually, Television was playing around NYC by 1973 or '74 (originally with Richard Hell on bass).  Great stuff - brilliant musicians.  Their first album (ca.1977?) also pre-dates any Lloyd Cole recording by at least six or seven years.

Wouldn't mind hearing Lloyd Cole some more Bill, hint hint.
 Bocephus wrote:
Yeah...anything off Marquee Moon would have been better, but this is OK.
 

Second that.  Time for an upload.

 bodhisattva1031 wrote:

second , third or maybe even fourth that . . . .
 
Deja vu - just thought - that's Lloyd Cole........
 jools wrote:
This sounds like Lloyd Cole and the Commotions.....
 
second , third or maybe even fourth that . . . .
Who are these guys? And why do they sound like other people?

Well, these guys were a very influential early new wave band in the late 1970's/early 80's that never had much commercial success but had a cult following. Critics in NYC kept asking who'd get big first, the Talking Heads or these guys. These guys always made literary lyrics with interesting songs built on often elaborate quirky guitar riffs. Nice to hear them here— they should be a staple of alternative radio.

K-BILLY wrote:
and Rick Ocasek
no son - Rick listened to them - saw them live at CBGBs before the Cars launched
So, Bill - how about a bit of LC&TC then by way of comparison?
rickhoran wrote:
first thought it was lloyd cole.
Sorry - hadn't seen this!
just said the same out loud
This sounds like Lloyd Cole and the Commotions.....
ScottishWillie wrote:
Thats you and me both.
Looks like a little club we got here.
rickhoran wrote:
first thought it was lloyd cole.
Thats you and me both.
first thought it was lloyd cole.
grusso wrote:
With some Roxy Music icing. I was just thinking - These guys listened to a lot of Lou Reed. :roflol:
grusso wrote:
I was just thinking - These guys listened to a lot of Lou Reed. :roflol:
and Rick Ocasek
steeler wrote:
:cool: Verlaine vocals here remind me of a cross between Lou Reed and Iggy Pop.
I was just thinking - These guys listened to a lot of Lou Reed. :roflol:
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Radio Paradise!!!! In the mid-80's I used to listen to an album by Tom Verlaine, but somehow parted with it in the early-90's. The past couple years I've been thinking of that album and how I missed it, but I couldn't, for the life of me, remember the artist's name or the album name. All I could remember was Dissolve/Reveal. When I heard this song today I instantly recognized the voice and the guitar work. And that led me to re-finding the artist's name and the album name. Does anyone know where I can find a CD of "Cover" to purchase?
:cool: Verlaine vocals here remind me of a cross between Lou Reed and Iggy Pop.
Lloyd?.....Lloyd!?.....is that you?...
babygirl614 wrote:
The album link is wrong, but my God, I thought this was Lloyd Cole. Shows how much I need to educate myself on the late 70's punk movement.
I had to do a double-take on the artist, too. Lloyd's one of my favorites, this comes darn close.
Marlo Thomas? THAT GIRL? What? This sounds pretty good.. but... THAT GIRL?
federico wrote:
yes, but not exactly the best track to choose from an excellent output .... a bit too bland, I'd say. Strange choice.
Yeah...anything off Marquee Moon would have been better, but this is OK.
Notelrac wrote:
Um... I don't think the album cover matches this song. I'm currently seeing the cover for Marlo Thomas & Friends, "Free to be you and me"!
Yeah...don't think Television ever played with Marlo Thomas... LOL!
Krispian wrote:
Great band.
yes, but not exactly the best track to choose from an excellent output .... a bit too bland, I'd say. Strange choice.
Great band.
Akaiila wrote:
Yep, my thoughts exactly.
I'll third that motion. I'll have to give Television more of a listen. :music:
desnos wrote:
good call... sort of between the Commotions and his solo work
Yep, my thoughts exactly.
MM_Prague wrote:
Listening to this, I'm reminded a bit of Yo La Tengo...perhaps they're fans...? I mean them of Television/Verlaine, not the other way around of course :-)
That's it! The singing is very similar indeed.
Listening to this, I'm reminded a bit of Yo La Tengo...perhaps they're fans...? I mean them of Television/Verlaine, not the other way around of course :-)
Are you sure it's not The Christmas Song from Saturday Night Live?
babygirl614 wrote:
The album link is wrong, but my God, I thought this was Lloyd Cole. Shows how much I need to educate myself on the late 70's punk movement.
good call... sort of between the Commotions and his solo work
Thanks to the repeated efforts of my darling wife maryte, "Marquee Moon" has been uploaded, added and played. Thanks to Bill and Rebecca for that! Now, this later Television reunion album is very fine as well, surprisingly good, considering that most times classic bands reunite, their music isn't nearly as good as the first time around. This is really of a piece with Verlaine's solo work of the time more than an organic extension of the earlier Television, but that ain't a bad thing at all. (Check out Verlaine's album Flash Light and you'll see how similar these records are). And, yes, the twin guitars of Verlaine and Lloyd are indispensible, adding a depth to the songwriting. More tasty than the earlier Television, maybe, but just as passionate. A complete 10.
Steven_G wrote:
Anyone wanting to step into a time machine to the 70's way of approaching kids about such subjects, try having a listen yourself!
I don't need to--I lived it (and loved it).
Cool song. You mean nobody uploaded "Elevation". That song (from the album Marquee Moon) is their best. I got it on vinyl.
Who knew Marlo was so sultry?? (;
it has something, I can't quite name... ... something... 7 or 8? hmmmm.
Great song. The twin guitars of Richard Lloyd and Tom Verlaine are excellent. Richard Lloyd also played on a number of Matthew Sweet songs. I would also like to hear some from Marquee Moon. I saw them right after this record came out and it was a very special evening. By the comments here, this fantastic band is unfortunately unknown to too many RP listeners.
Zep wrote:
Cool - sounds 80's but not in a bad way. Kind of like Wire or Dream Syndicate. Tom Verlaine eh? More please, may I have some more? btw, this is the album -
A relief to see that. I thought I was losing my mind, after clicking on the Amazon.com link (and going to their samples section), and finding myself listening to the songs from a 70s television show Free To Be...You And Me featuring Marlo Thomas, Mel Brooks, Dick Cavett, Rosey Grier, Shirley Jones, Alan Alda, Carol Channing et al. singing against sexual stereotyping. Anyone wanting to step into a time machine to the 70's way of approaching kids about such subjects, try having a listen yourself!
Poacher wrote:
The vocalist sounds like Lloyd Cole (and his commotions)
I kinda thought this sounded like Yo La Tengo. Just a little bit. Maybe.
The album link is wrong, but my God, I thought this was Lloyd Cole. Shows how much I need to educate myself on the late 70's punk movement.
pdhski wrote:
or Ric Ocasek in a weird way
not even weird. just plain sounds like him.
Marlo Thomas!? Huh?!
this singing is grating on me
This is a pretty good song by a great band. The song and album "Marquee Moon" are amazing. I'm surprised RP doesn't play Marquee Moon. I think it would be very well accepted, althought it is a little lengthy.
ChardRemains wrote:
I happen to know that this song is NOT off "Free to be you and me."
No, I believe it is from "Free To Be...Tom V" :o)
The guitarist is called Richard Lloyd and the vocalist sounds like Lloyd Cole (and his commotions), , , I think I have uncovered something.. . :nodhead: On the other hand. . . perhaps not. . . . I'll get my coat. :roll:
I happen to know that this song is NOT off "Free to be you and me."
eeching2004 wrote:
Playing the association game Reminds me of Lou Reed, but straight enough to sing.
or Ric Ocasek in a weird way
Cool - sounds 80's but not in a bad way. Kind of like Wire or Dream Syndicate. Tom Verlaine eh? More please, may I have some more? btw, this is the album -
Playing the association game Reminds me of Lou Reed, but straight enough to sing.
Um... I don't think the album cover matches this song. I'm currently seeing the cover for Marlo Thomas & Friends, "Free to be you and me"!