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Doves — Last Broadcast
Album: The Last Broadcast
Avg rating:
6.6

Your rating:
Total ratings: 856









Released: 2002
Length: 3:17
Plays (last 30 days): 1
I was thinking about what you said
I was thinking about shame
The funny thing you said
Cause it's better not to stay
Sure enough if you feel nothing
You're better off this way
Gets to the point where you can't breathe
It's the last word
I can see it standing

So here we are
At the last broadcast
Here we are
Our last broadcast

Sun on faces made us feel alive
The colours of the sky
Southern trees, made us enemies
Who knows the reason why?
You can't escape yourself
You can't just fall away
It comes to the point when you feel nothing
This is the last time
Cause I can see it in your eyes

So here we are
At the last broadcast
Here we are
Our last broadcast

This is
The last broadcast
Here we are
Our last broadcast
Comments (91)add comment
 lasker98 wrote:
My wife's a big Coldplay fan. Any time I hear the Doves I like to bug her by saying "this is what Coldplay would sound like if they were good".

 
I like Coldplay but that's funny.
I like this whirling and unacademic magma of synths and unexpected echoes of indistinct - I don't know what. Very creative. 9.
Why are you people screwing up the comments. If someone says it is pretentious let it b
Although pretty good, this is one of the lesser songs on an incredibly good album.
 lasker98 wrote:
My wife's a big Coldplay fan. Any time I hear the Doves I like to bug her by saying "this is what Coldplay would sound like if they were good".

 
Heh, heh, heh
My wife's a big Coldplay fan. Any time I hear the Doves I like to bug her by saying "this is what Coldplay would sound like if they were good".
 bam23 wrote:
Why did I only rate this 7? Now it's 9 and that may not be enough. This group has such a nuanced sound, to my ears. Without this station I would have had no way to encounter Doves. When I like them, saturation works well to satisfy the urge.

 
Agreed.
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Not sure why this song attracts random political threads but hey.
 
I agree that TV ads for obscure diseases nobody has has led to not much that's good. But the ads were finally allowed after we demanded to be shown the information we needed to make informed choices. That is, we suspected collusion between doctors and big pharma because they wouldn't even let us know about our choices. Doc says "take this stuff" and we had nothing to support or refute our suspicion that Doc was on the Eli Lilly payroll. We thought TV ads would help that problem. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but any problem that exists is not the fault of drug companies. Note that I am not a fan of drug co or of TV advertising, just pointing out that we should be careful what we wish for. Also, we should read some magazines once in a while instead of getting our health info from a 30 second weepy story told by former actresses. 

 

{#Crashcomp}{#Stop}{#Crashcomp} BLOW UP THE TV.....
Why did I only rate this 7? Now it's 9 and that may not be enough. This group has such a nuanced sound, to my ears. Without this station I would have had no way to encounter Doves. When I like them, saturation works well to satisfy the urge.
Excellent album. great songs
I played the LIVING DAYLIGHTS out of this when I got it...{#Lol}
What a great album.
 Byronape wrote:

I know that this is an old post, but I thought that it was important enough to 1) give it a bump, 2) give my opinion.

I think copyrighting is important, but there should be a difference between a physical copyright and an artistic copyright.  Artistic copyrights should hold for 10 years then have the option of extending for an additional 10 years but have mandatory lower cost for any licensing fees.

A physical copyright (a new drug, new machine, new chemical) should have a 10 year limit and then become public domain.  Not only would that allow a company to more than recuperate developmental costs and provide a steady stream of income from that product without fear of having it stolen from them somehow, but having the limit would provide an additional motovation to develop new and better products while allowing for lower cost generic or off brand versions of the product to increase it's availability. 

While maybe not a perfect solution, I think it's a fair compromise.

 

Hola Byronape.  Correct me if I am mistaken, but I thought you resided in a different location.  Somewhere in the post-capitalist wasteland.   As to your point - all personal property is theft.  How is it that you do not know that?

 bam23 wrote:
Where else would I have ever heard this band? They create a sonic landscape that is distinct. I have picked up several CDs for $2-3 each at the local Amoeba, and they are more than worth it. 
  
 
Asmith wrote:

They are great! Get all of the albums!
 
What I've heard of the Devlins, I've loved. 

I went to an Amoeba records in SF years ago...wow. Nirvana. Nowadays people don't bother to pay for music and wonder why it's harder to find decent artists. 


 MichaelCrawford wrote:
The United States' concept of intellectual property was established by the framers of the Constitution "to promote the useful arts and sciences" by granting a monopoly to inventors and authors for "a limited time". The idea was that by granting a temporary monopoly, creative works would eventually pass into the public domain. But that's not the situation we find ourselves in today, with copyright being extended whenever there is any danger of Steamboat Willie becoming a public domain mouse. I discuss this at more length in my piece Repeal The Copyright Act. To demonstrate that I walk the walk, I have placed my own music under the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 2.5 license.
 
I know that this is an old post, but I thought that it was important enough to 1) give it a bump, 2) give my opinion.

I think copyrighting is important, but there should be a difference between a physical copyright and an artistic copyright.  Artistic copyrights should hold for 10 years then have the option of extending for an additional 10 years but have mandatory lower cost for any licensing fees.

A physical copyright (a new drug, new machine, new chemical) should have a 10 year limit and then become public domain.  Not only would that allow a company to more than recuperate developmental costs and provide a steady stream of income from that product without fear of having it stolen from them somehow, but having the limit would provide an additional motovation to develop new and better products while allowing for lower cost generic or off brand versions of the product to increase it's availability. 

While maybe not a perfect solution, I think it's a fair compromise.

 ick wrote:

But they shouldn't be allowed to push their drugs on television broadcasts.  They make enough money overcharging for their products!
 
Not sure why this song attracts random political threads but hey.
 
I agree that TV ads for obscure diseases nobody has has led to not much that's good. But the ads were finally allowed after we demanded to be shown the information we needed to make informed choices. That is, we suspected collusion between doctors and big pharma because they wouldn't even let us know about our choices. Doc says "take this stuff" and we had nothing to support or refute our suspicion that Doc was on the Eli Lilly payroll. We thought TV ads would help that problem. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but any problem that exists is not the fault of drug companies. Note that I am not a fan of drug co or of TV advertising, just pointing out that we should be careful what we wish for. Also, we should read some magazines once in a while instead of getting our health info from a 30 second weepy story told by former actresses. 
 Daveinbawlmer wrote:
Its not only music, why should a drug company invest huge quantities of money on developing a cholesterol med or blood pressure med if its going to be open for anyone to copy?
 
But they shouldn't be allowed to push their drugs on television broadcasts.  They make enough money overcharging for their products!

 bam23 wrote:
Where else would I have ever heard this band? They create a sonic landscape that is distinct. I have picked up several CDs for $2-3 each at the local Amoeba, and they are more than worth it. 
 
They are great! Get all of the albums!

Where else would I have ever heard this band? They create a sonic landscape that is distinct. I have picked up several CDs for $2-3 each at the local Amoeba, and they are more than worth it. 
{#Sleep}{#Sleep}
More Doves please.............Love this song

 bdblinux wrote:
Doves rule.
 


{#Motor}
Love this song ; its like flying far over the clouds
 Yesnil wrote:
I love you Doves.
 
Me too.

liser wrote:
I thought he was singing in Yiddish for a minute - lots of juicy "...ch"s in there...



2 words: Zombie Lips

I thought he was singing in Yiddish for a minute - lots of juicy "...ch"s in there...
MichaelCrawford wrote:
The United States' concept of intellectual property was established by the framers of the Constitution "to promote the useful arts and sciences" by granting a monopoly to inventors and authors for "a limited time". The idea was that by granting a temporary monopoly, creative works would eventually pass into the public domain. But that's not the situation we find ourselves in today, with copyright being extended whenever there is any danger of Steamboat Willie becoming a public domain mouse. I discuss this at more length in my piece Repeal The Copyright Act. To demonstrate that I walk the walk, I have placed my own music under the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 2.5 license.
Could it be your either too cheap to go through the copyright process or could it be your music sucks ... Bootlegging is theft-------- Period.
billbangert wrote:
The Doves are the one band that I haven't seen that I really really want to. They are supposedly working on a new album and will tour next year. I really hope i get to see them.
They are absolutely amazing live. I've seen them in small venues and at music festivals and they always impress.
I love you Doves.
Jamunca wrote:
You know, that got me to thinking. What would be the last song played on RadioParadise before the lights went out? What would you guys want heard? Personally, I think they should play whatever tune holds the record for most-played song on here.
It would no doubt be "Embryonic Journey" by Jefferson Airplane.
Class
brighthue wrote:
:yell: Don't let this be "the last broadcast." Save RP and independent Internet radio. Get the word out regarding the U.S. Copyright Board's decision to set overwhelming rates for "performance" royalties. (click here)
You know, that got me to thinking. What would be the last song played on RadioParadise before the lights went out? What would you guys want heard? Personally, I think they should play whatever tune holds the record for most-played song on here.
The Doves are the one band that I haven't seen that I really really want to. They are supposedly working on a new album and will tour next year. I really hope i get to see them.
Not demanding but very pleasant.
Unique sound,
Doves rule.
BORING
:yell: Don't let this be "the last broadcast." Save RP and independent Internet radio. Get the word out regarding the U.S. Copyright Board's decision to set overwhelming rates for "performance" royalties. (click here)
The United States' concept of intellectual property was established by the framers of the Constitution "to promote the useful arts and sciences" by granting a monopoly to inventors and authors for "a limited time". The idea was that by granting a temporary monopoly, creative works would eventually pass into the public domain. But that's not the situation we find ourselves in today, with copyright being extended whenever there is any danger of Steamboat Willie becoming a public domain mouse. I discuss this at more length in my piece Repeal The Copyright Act. To demonstrate that I walk the walk, I have placed my own music under the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 2.5 license.
Baby_M wrote:
Silly. "Intellectual property" is the reason why artists get paid for their art. If you like the Doves, or Coldplay, or Radiohead, or Steve Earle, or whomever, don't you want to see them be able to make a living? If your kids enjoyed Harry Potter, shouldn't J.K. Rowling be rewarded for that?
Its not only music, why should a drug company invest huge quantities of money on developing a cholesterol med or blood pressure med if its going to be open for anyone to copy?
I could have sworn yer man sung "the last vodka and here we are". I certainly felt as if this tedium was giving me a hangover... A two.
Baby_M wrote:
Silly. "Intellectual property" is the reason why artists get paid for their art.
To quote the Sixty Minutes II show of October 24, 2000 about the Dixie Chicks:
"The hard truth of the music business is that selling a million records, or even 17 million, doesn't make you a millionaire. Distributors, record stores, lawyers, accountants, agents, managers - and, of course, the record company - all get a percentage."
And don't even get me started on the patent system! Long live RP and their support for indie artists.
The very last phrase could easily segue into a Daniel Lanois beautifully, in fact I thought it had but Tears for Fears picked it up, nice one Doves!
The Doves seem pretty derivative, but i like this song.
(8?» wrote:
Intellectual Property is the ultimate enslavement of mankind.
Silly. "Intellectual property" is the reason why artists get paid for their art. If you like the Doves, or Coldplay, or Radiohead, or Steve Earle, or whomever, don't you want to see them be able to make a living? If your kids enjoyed Harry Potter, shouldn't J.K. Rowling be rewarded for that?
love it.......
"...Die Du-va..." ( no 'umlaut!')
grimlock wrote:
great song. the doves are a great band, great in concert and just well, great.
Exactly
great song. the doves are a great band, great in concert and just well, great.
PattonFever wrote:
the very beginning of this song sound a whole lot like mr bungle's pink cigarette.
I would tell you to upload some Mr Bungle, but its just not easy listening enough for RP.
ad4tise wrote:
Actually the beginning of this song sounds like someone in pain.
err. i don't see how the guitars in the very beginning sound anything like a human, but okay. rah wrote:
props to whomever mentioned mr. bungle. love them.
me, too. ^_~ - and thanks for the props.
this song is pretty nice. i bought the album a few months ago and it's still in regular rotation. good stuff.
wow. and i thought this was cold play all this time... props to whomever mentioned mr. bungle. love them. :D
PattonFever wrote:
the very beginning of this song sound a whole lot like mr bungle's pink cigarette.
Actually the beginning of this song sounds like someone in pain.
the very beginning of this song sound a whole lot like mr bungle's pink cigarette.
I love this song and this album. I love the sound of unmistakeable longing in the vocals and lyrics.
(8?» wrote:
Perhaps they couldn't afford the rights to reproduce those sounds. Someday all speech/sound/ideas will be owned by , and innovation will grind to a halt. If you think this isn't happening already, I offer the existence of all the industry manufactured "bands" as evidence. Marketing is replacing creativity, 'cause all that matters at the end of the day is the bottom line. Intellectual Property is the ultimate enslavement of mankind. Corporations are steal our culture, repackage it, then sell it back to us in the form of reduced freedom. All they have to do is distract us with shiny cool toys (like DVDs). All we have to do to stop them is pay attention (like broken/copy proof CDs).
i don't mean to quote your entire post, but i couldn't find anything that needed to be chopped out. i wholeheartedly agree with you. thank you for posting that.
:jump:
what a nice song.
snama wrote:
wow - I thought we were commenting on the actual album track - silly me! I love these people - the Doves, not the people commenting. :rolleyes:
Oh come on, you know you love us. :heartkiss:
Oh my god I LOVE THESE Guys.. .I probably say something every time this song comes on, but seriously... they are unbelievable. Saw them live, one of the best shows of my life, and that is saying a lot. can't get enough... can't wait for a new album
sparke wrote:
Any idea where these guys are from?? One of those songs that gets you reaching for a pen and jotting their name down for future purchases. =P~
They are from Manchester I have seen them live and they are something else
Any idea where these guys are from?? One of those songs that gets you reaching for a pen and jotting their name down for future purchases. =P~
wow - I thought we were commenting on the actual album track - silly me! I love these people - the Doves, not the people commenting. :roll:
Hmmmmmmmm.......yummy! Mikey likes it :hungry:
I love the internet. I don\'t know how we got from that weird-ass song to howard dean thru such a thrilling array of emotions and issues, but I\'m all for it. And for howard dean. ;) the song, i can live without. there. now we\'ve come full-circle.
Originally Posted by thenumbernine: Do I enjoy Doves? Yes, very much so. Do I enjoy this song? Yeesh ... no ... not their best work.
I agree!! :bounce:
The Irish tin-whistle sound is getting played out. All I can hear is variations on the theme from \"Titantic\". Time for people to move on or move back to strictly folk oriented songs. This Irish Folk-Pop Rock is all starting to sound the same.
Originally Posted by (8?»: Perhaps they couldn't afford the rights to reproduce those sounds. Someday all speech/sound/ideas will be owned by , and innovation will grind to a halt. If you think this isn't happening already, I offer the existence of all the industry manufactured "bands" as evidence. Marketing is replacing creativity, 'cause all that matters at the end of the day is the bottom line. Intellectual Property is the ultimate enslavement of mankind. Corporations are steal our culture, repackage it, then sell it back to us in the form of reduced freedom. All they have to do is distract us with shiny cool toys (like DVDs). All we have to do to stop them is pay attention (like broken/copy proof CDs).
I think this is interesting, because the IP law was written into the constitution, because the writers of the constitution thought that it would PROMOTE creativity--fun huh? However, you cannot register a copyright, patent or trademark for an idea. A copyright must be in a tangible form, a trademark only covers things you sell and its packaging, and a patent must be unique and functional. Everybody seems to by into this corporate paranoia thing and forget that corporations are made up of people...and that some of those people listen to RP. :bounce:
Originally Posted by MsfStl: Gotta love someone who resorts to cliched antics to belittle others, especially after creating a self-paranoid delusion that others were berating them based on where they lived. I think we just gotta relax. I mean what are you two gonna do? Rumble? Jeez, go work for Bush and Ashcroft, they're looking for supporters like you. (pimp)
I can't be paranoid--I'd have to be paying closer attention to be paranoid. ;) I agree that I often do not write as clearly as I would like, but still I wish you people could read. I posted that corporate greed was killing music. Timolina responded by saying I was espousing right-wing ideology then brought up Matthew Shepard and Nazis. Nevermind the non sequitur, I took that as an attack on me (yes, being called a Nazi is an insult). If you can't see that, and that my subsequent response was, yes, a cliché, albeit one that mimicked Timolina to illustrate how far wrong his knee-jerking had gone, then please help me to write an appropriate response to Timolina. Now then. I get the impression that everyone in this discussion is a Democrat, or at least is not a Republican. To which I say, you all better learn who the enemy is, 'cause it ain't me. So let's all get behind someone who does know who the enemy is.
Originally Posted by ScottFromWyoming: You better not be talkin' to me. If you're thinking I'm right wing because I think artists deserve to get paid for their work, then how, exactly do you propose they feed themselves? How is that right-wing? Oh. Wait. I disagreed with a weakly-supported claim that even its original poster probably disagrees with on one or two levels. That means I must be a right-winger. Or is it because I'm from Wyoming? Hmm? You didn't make a character judgement based on the state I live in, did you, you undereducated cousin'-datin' white robe wearin' cross-burnin' David Duke electin' frenchy? Hmm? No. You wouldn't do that. You're much too Liberal make a mistake like that.
Gotta love someone who resorts to cliched antics to belittle others, especially after creating a self-paranoid delusion that others were berating them based on where they lived. I think we just gotta relax. I mean what are you two gonna do? Rumble? Jeez, go work for Bush and Ashcroft, they're looking for supporters like you. (pimp)
Originally Posted by timalina_jolie: right wing intellectualism. who would of thought that mathew shephard would have fared better in nazi germany
You better not be talkin' to me. If you're thinking I'm right wing because I think artists deserve to get paid for their work, then how, exactly do you propose they feed themselves? How is that right-wing? Oh. Wait. I disagreed with a weakly-supported claim that even its original poster probably disagrees with on one or two levels. That means I must be a right-winger. Or is it because I'm from Wyoming? Hmm? You didn't make a character judgement based on the state I live in, did you, you undereducated cousin'-datin' white robe wearin' cross-burnin' David Duke electin' frenchy? Hmm? No. You wouldn't do that. You're much too Liberal make a mistake like that.
right wing intellectualism. who would of thought that mathew shephard would have fared better in nazi germany
Originally Posted by ScottFromWyoming: Marketing is replacing creativity? Always has, always will. Since Adam and Eve and the snake and the apple, we've been susceptible to smooth talking salesmen. It's in our very makeup to reach out for that which we know is bad for us. It's not a problem, it's a trait. Intellectual property is not the problem. Greed is the problem. I create art, it's mine to do what I want with it. But somehow, if I create music, the record companies want my intellectual property rights transferred to them. Artists have to eat, and the system we've devised which will allow them to create and eat recognizes intellectual property. Destroy those rights and you destroy your access to music. Allow those rights to be usurped (by record companies, et al) and you not only surrender your access to music you like, you create an environment where the music criticism involves the nuanced differences between Pink and Britney and Avril. There, I'm done. :p
Finally, you make me hear this album. It's not as bad as I thought. Anyway, I'd put three stars in the allmusic ranking.
Originally Posted by (8?»: ...I offer the existence of all the industry manufactured "bands" as evidence. Marketing is replacing creativity, 'cause all that matters at the end of the day is the bottom line. Intellectual Property is the ultimate enslavement of mankind.
Marketing is replacing creativity? Always has, always will. Since Adam and Eve and the snake and the apple, we've been susceptible to smooth talking salesmen. It's in our very makeup to reach out for that which we know is bad for us. It's not a problem, it's a trait. Intellectual property is not the problem. Greed is the problem. I create art, it's mine to do what I want with it. But somehow, if I create music, the record companies want my intellectual property rights transferred to them. Artists have to eat, and the system we've devised which will allow them to create and eat recognizes intellectual property. Destroy those rights and you destroy your access to music. Allow those rights to be usurped (by record companies, et al) and you not only surrender your access to music you like, you create an environment where the music criticism involves the nuanced differences between Pink and Britney and Avril. There, I'm done. :p
some people may not like it but i am not doves\'d out yet. maybe another three months before i get sick of hearing anything from this album.
Originally Posted by Ashcroft: Well, he is from Manchester, so give im a break. If you listen to many bands from there, they don't pronounce certain letters.
Perhaps they couldn't afford the rights to reproduce those sounds. Someday all speech/sound/ideas will be owned by , and innovation will grind to a halt. If you think this isn't happening already, I offer the existence of all the industry manufactured "bands" as evidence. Marketing is replacing creativity, 'cause all that matters at the end of the day is the bottom line. Intellectual Property is the ultimate enslavement of mankind. Corporations are steal our culture, repackage it, then sell it back to us in the form of reduced freedom. All they have to do is distract us with shiny cool toys (like DVDs). All we have to do to stop them is pay attention (like broken/copy proof CDs).
Do I enjoy Doves? Yes, very much so. Do I enjoy this song? Yeesh ... no ... not their best work.
Not the best song on the CD,.... but still good
Originally Posted by bobringer: What's the deal with this dude missing certain letters from his alphabet. He forgets to sing "t's" and some other letters. Strange... otherwise, a decent song.
Well, he is from Manchester, so give im a break. If you listen to many bands from there, they don't pronounce certain letters.
How great that this follows The Smiths. Manchester sound :notworthy:
This is an amazing album with a sound all its own, definately worth buying. This is one of many amazing tunes on the record. Try playing \"Fridays Dust\" or \"Satellite\", truly spine tingling :clap:
Some very harsh thoughts below....the \"messy\" quality cited below is to me evocative of a dream-state - a pleasant sensation that I found too short! To each his ozone.
Originally Posted by bobringer: What's the deal with this dude missing certain letters from his alphabet. He forgets to sing "t's" and some other letters.
"You ca't wai'..." I see what you mean ;) I don't see why everyone is being so down on this one. It isn't spectacular, but it definitely isn't bad. "Decent" fits it well I think.
I can\'t believe!!! Another song from Doves... :( :cool:
whining singer + messy music = crap :cry:
A GREAT space-rock track!
Dreadful. Just hideous. One of the worst things I\'ve ever heard. :mad:
What\'s the deal with this dude missing certain letters from his alphabet. He forgets to sing \"t\'s\" and some other letters. Strange... otherwise, a decent song.