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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 2:33pm

COVID-19 Fantasy League?
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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 2:28pm



 miamizsun wrote:


 haresfur wrote:


 miamizsun wrote:


haiti is crushing it way better than australia? yep


burundi is blowing everyone else away, period

just think about that for a second

the royal drummers of burundi haven't even missed a beat

how? what's their secret?

i think we both know what it is

however i'll leave it out here for others to ponder
 

huh?
 

look at deaths per million

au  35

ha  21

because worldometer
 
Yeah well, new community transmission cases in the past week, Australia 0. But it looks like Australia has ongoing cases because they report cases from overseas in the hotel quarantine system. Australia did have a bad wave due to a release from the quarantine system that caused a really tough lockdown in Victoria. But I'd say we crushed that one.

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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 12:48pm



 haresfur wrote:


 miamizsun wrote:


haiti is crushing it way better than australia? yep


burundi is blowing everyone else away, period

just think about that for a second

the royal drummers of burundi haven't even missed a beat

how? what's their secret?

i think we both know what it is

however i'll leave it out here for others to ponder
 

huh?
 

look at deaths per million

au  35

ha  21

because worldometer
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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 12:30pm



 miamizsun wrote:


haiti is crushing it way better than australia? yep


burundi is blowing everyone else away, period

just think about that for a second

the royal drummers of burundi haven't even missed a beat

how? what's their secret?

i think we both know what it is

however i'll leave it out here for others to ponder
 

huh?
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Posted: Jan 23, 2021 - 7:32am

 Manbird wrote:
All the reports on almost any news network reporting the covid numbers are all false and dated. If you want to see up to date accurate figures check out worldometer. The news lies.  They use John Hopkins which is always about a day and a half behind. The day we passed 400, 000 was was actually the day after we passed that landmark number. It's a cool site - it give all kinds of  statistics on many topics. Like a running meter of the world's population and much more.
 

haiti is crushing it way better than australia? yep

burundi is blowing everyone else away, period

just think about that for a second

the royal drummers of burundi haven't even missed a beat

how? what's their secret?

i think we both know what it is

however i'll leave it out here for others to ponder
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Posted: Jan 22, 2021 - 4:16pm

All the reports on almost any news network reporting the covid numbers are all false and dated. If you want to see up to date accurate figures check out worldometer. The news lies.  They use John Hopkins which is always about a day and a half behind. The day we passed 400, 000 was was actually the day after we passed that landmark number. It's a cool site - it give all kinds of  statistics on many topics. Like a running meter of the world's population and much more.
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Posted: Feb 22, 2019 - 11:39am

kurster,

Thanks for the references.  Even before I came back to this thread, I had the chance to read more about the Jussie Smollett incident and now fully understand what you were referring to.

You were right; I was wrong.  So much for jumping to conclusions.   Sorry.  

I just read that Empire has fired Jussie Smollett.    I hope he ends up working in a bottom-rung convenience store position though he might make more money turning tricks.  
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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 6:56pm

Hate Crimes Are on the Rise. Why Do Many Still Go Unreported?
As the news spread, many (including the president) were quick to criticize Smollett, or simply amplify this instance of alleged false reporting, which is actually very rare. Researchers who track hate crimes have found that the more common problem isn't false reports; if anything, it's underreporting. In fact, the number of hate crimes has spiked dramatically since 2016—and these numbers are likely much higher than what's represented in the Federal Bureau of Investigation's database.
It's more than a little ironic that Trumpers clutch their pearls complaining about veracity...


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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 6:43pm

 westslope wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
.....It was the national news media that made it into something else altogether.  It was an opportunity to further their anti Trump narrative and because they are so wound up in it, they cannot sit back and wait for the story to develop fully. ......
 
??   Specific examples, please.   

Trump has called for a muscular response to journalists and activists but not gay men.  
 
I am at a loss to understand what the latter bolded has to do with anything.  It was painted as a hate crime perpetrated by typical #MAGA homophobic Trumpers.  And bought hook, line and sinker.  Trumpers are assumed to be homophobic, when you pull the white sheets Red Hats away ...      I don't know why you or anyone else would think blaming Trump out of the gate for this so unusual as to needing proof.

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The attack embodied everything that was wrong with Trump and his supporters, two of which obviously carried out this hate crime.  That was the picture painted by the talking heads and politicians.  It is hard to find any of these unless I stumble on a montage someone has put together that will stay up on youtube.  Searching can only be done by headline now because there is too much content now that comes up in any search to find original stories.  These stories are old now and buried under piles of results.   

Here's a couple that I have found so far ...

Rep. Maxine Waters blames Trump for 'MAGA hate attack' on her Empire star friend Jussie Smollett in Chicago, claiming the President is 'emboldening' racists

Ellen Page Tearfully Condemns Jussie Smollett Attack—And the Trump Administration

This is is particularily interesting ...

Racist And Homophobic Attack on Empire’s Jussie Smollett Has People Blaming The Trump Administration

Although TMZ reported that the attackers shouted “This is MAGA country,” Chicago police told the Daily Beast, “There is no report of that being said.”

Despite the police department’s claim that this was not a Trump-related attack, people on social media can’t help but equate the apparent rise in hate crimes with the “racist in chief.”

 Well I did find three separate credible sources.  That meets the minimum standard for proof in writing exercises.

Again, I must ask why you or anyone else would find the rush to blame Trump not a real thing ?  Like no one would stoop to that kind of recklessness. Trump is assumed to have done anything terrible one can imagine  There are those who are in love with hating Trump and there are more than a couple of them.  How's that lyric go ... a thin line between love and hate ....

Anyway ...



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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 12:31pm



 sirdroseph wrote:
 black321 wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
 black321 wrote:
its not the coverage, but editorials that jumped to conclusions.  
Turn it off people.  Hell, even go watch some sports for a change.  

 
Have you tried watching sports lately?  Can't even escape it there.  Southpark as usual explains it best with the whole 2016 season.  It is all about tribalism and forcing sides, no one gets out alive, but as the great Libertarian Neil Peart states "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."  That is where I have been living. 
{#Meditate}
  I form my opinions one at a time.
 
I was being facetious.  (Hockey is about the only game i watch, and the coverage seems to avoid the outside world.  Could be all those Canadians, and hell we've been playing with russians for years) 
 
Southpark is where I get my news.  Those guys really have a way of nailing everything perfectly.
{#Lol}

 
Wouldn't be funny, if it wasn't true.

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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 12:08pm

EDIT

 kurtster wrote:
.....It was the national news media that made it into something else altogether.  It was an opportunity to further their anti Trump narrative and because they are so wound up in it, they cannot sit back and wait for the story to develop fully. ......
 
?   Specific examples, please.   
   OK, I caught up to the news and now fully understand what kurster was referring to.  One of the hired assailants was wearing a MAGA hat IRCC.

Trump has called for a muscular response to journalists and activists but not gay men.  

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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 11:39am

 black321 wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
 black321 wrote:
its not the coverage, but editorials that jumped to conclusions.  
Turn it off people.  Hell, even go watch some sports for a change.  

 
Have you tried watching sports lately?  Can't even escape it there.  Southpark as usual explains it best with the whole 2016 season.  It is all about tribalism and forcing sides, no one gets out alive, but as the great Libertarian Neil Peart states "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."  That is where I have been living.  {#Meditate}  I form my opinions one at a time.
 
I was being facetious.  (Hockey is about the only game i watch, and the coverage seems to avoid the outside world.  Could be all those Canadians, and hell we've been playing with russians for years) 
 
Southpark is where I get my news.  Those guys really have a way of nailing everything perfectly. {#Lol}
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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 11:34am



 sirdroseph wrote:
 black321 wrote:
its not the coverage, but editorials that jumped to conclusions.  
Turn it off people.  Hell, even go watch some sports for a change.  

 
Have you tried watching sports lately?  Can't even escape it there.  Southpark as usual explains it best with the whole 2016 season.  It is all about tribalism and forcing sides, no one gets out alive, but as the great Libertarian Neil Peart states "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."  That is where I have been living. 
{#Meditate}
  I form my opinions one at a time.
 
I was being facetious.  (Hockey is about the only game i watch, and the coverage seems to avoid the outside world.  Could be all those Canadians, and hell we've been playing with russians for years) 

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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 11:17am

 black321 wrote:


 westslope wrote:

Is that the fault of the media who are tasked to not only report news on a daily basis — no time for exhaustive peer review there — but tasked to report news on an hourly or minute by minute basis?
 

its not the coverage, but editorials that jumped to conclusions.  
Turn it off people.  Hell, even go watch some sports for a change.  

 
Have you tried watching sports lately?  Can't even escape it there.  Southpark as usual explains it best with the whole 2016 season.  It is all about tribalism and forcing sides, no one gets out alive, but as the great Libertarian Neil Peart states "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."  That is where I have been living.  {#Meditate}  I form my opinions one at a time.
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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 11:11am



 westslope wrote:

Is that the fault of the media who are tasked to not only report news on a daily basis — no time for exhaustive peer review there — but tasked to report news on an hourly or minute by minute basis?


 

its not the coverage, but editorials that jumped to conclusions.  
Turn it off people.  Hell, even go watch some sports for a change.  
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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 10:41am

 kurtster wrote:
My understanding is that the local news covered it rather well and kept the flames to a minimum, waiting for some actual results of investigations to come in.  It was the national news media that made it into something else altogether.  It was an opportunity to further their anti Trump narrative and because they are so wound up in it, they cannot sit back and wait for the story to develop fully.  It is what they wanted to report.  The MAGA  headlines get clicks.  Clicks = $  Shoot first, who needs answers ?  They just get in the way, like they are right now.  All that is left to watch is how this gets swept under the rug by the MSM.

Then there is the case of the WAPO being sued for $250 mil.

 
Yea and that one is stupid also, usually when there is a lawsuit asking for money, money is the true motivation.  Ain't that right Kap?{#Wink}
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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 10:34am

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At this point, the Jussie Smollett story looks like a narcissistic gay man looking after numero uno.  

Is that the fault of the media who are tasked to not only report news on a daily basis — no time for exhaustive peer review there — but tasked to report news on an hourly or minute by minute basis?

Or it is blow back from a Made-in-America culture of celebrity narcissism?  

 
Yea that is an export that most of us are not proud of. {#Lol}{#Eek}


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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 10:11am

My understanding is that the local news covered it rather well and kept the flames to a minimum, waiting for some actual results of investigations to come in.  It was the national news media that made it into something else altogether.  It was an opportunity to further their anti Trump narrative and because they are so wound up in it, they cannot sit back and wait for the story to develop fully.  It is what they wanted to report.  The MAGA  headlines get clicks.  Clicks = $  Shoot first, who needs answers ?  They just get in the way, like they are right now.  All that is left to watch is how this gets swept under the rug by the MSM.

Then there is the case of the WAPO being sued for $250 mil.
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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 9:52am


At this point, the Jussie Smollett story looks like a narcissistic gay man looking after numero uno.  

Is that the fault of the media who are tasked to not only report news on a daily basis — no time for exhaustive peer review there — but tasked to report news on an hourly or minute by minute basis?

Or it is blow back from a Made-in-America culture of celebrity narcissism?  
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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 - 9:17am

Jussie Smollett: Empire star 'staged hoax attack over salary'
"US actor Jussie Smollett staged a fake attack on himself because he was "dissatisfied with his salary", Chicago police say
Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said in a news conference that he "took advantage of the pain and anger of racism to promote his career".
Mr Smollett is charged with filing a false police report after he said he was the victim of a homophobic attack..."
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