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oldviolin

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Posted: Jul 14, 2020 - 7:13am

stacked up for miles...
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Posted: Jul 13, 2020 - 11:16am



 cc_rider wrote:


 buddy wrote:
 The most incredible thing about the article is that 'Great White' can still get a gig.
c.


   



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Posted: Jul 13, 2020 - 10:37am



 buddy wrote:
 The most incredible thing about the article is that 'Great White' can still get a gig.
c.


buddy

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Posted: Jul 12, 2020 - 9:06am

Make America Great White Again


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Posted: Jul 3, 2020 - 2:40am



 Red_Dragon wrote:

Fighting two problems:

1) for humans, normal risk assessments don't come into play when you are talking about reproduction (or practicing for reproduction)

2) Twenty year olds are immortal

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Posted: Jul 3, 2020 - 1:29am



 kurtster wrote:

Nope, you were right. 

These kids are in a big hurry to get to where they're headed. 

Problem is the destination is to somewhere different than where they think they're headed to.

Always said that the 20's are the most dangerous part of your life.  Survive them and it gets better, usually ... ;)
 
Not my experience but point taken. My 40’s were a rough ride.

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Posted: Jul 3, 2020 - 12:22am

 BlueHeronDruid wrote:


 Red_Dragon wrote:
 
Look. We're all eager for our inheritance.

Oh wait.

 
Nope, you were right. 

These kids are in a big hurry to get to where they're headed. 

Problem is the destination is to somewhere different than where they think they're headed to.

Always said that the 20's are the most dangerous part of your life.  Survive them and it gets better, usually ... ;)
BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: Jul 3, 2020 - 12:01am



 Red_Dragon wrote:
 
Look. We're all eager for our inheritance.

Oh wait.

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Posted: Jul 2, 2020 - 10:20pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:
 
Natural selection at it’s finest.

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Posted: Jul 2, 2020 - 11:47am

Young people are throwing coronavirus parties with a payout when one gets infected
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Posted: Jun 27, 2020 - 10:32am

oh for Christ friggin' sake.....      
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Posted: Jun 27, 2020 - 10:30am

 kcar wrote:
For a guy who apparently smokes a lot of herbage, you sure are cranky.
 
Must be rationed.
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Posted: Jun 27, 2020 - 3:06am



 kcar wrote:







For a guy who apparently smokes a lot of herbage, you sure are cranky. 



 

This is all I could see.
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Posted: Jun 27, 2020 - 1:36am



 kurtster wrote:

Since you insist on wiggling out of this, here's something much older as a reference.  This has long, long, long been known to me.

And regardless of how you try and spin out of this, the importation of plants and irrigation is a primary factor.

From 1993 ...

Phoenix as an Allergy Haven Now Something to Sneeze At

Phoenix is now a sprawling metropolis where, scientists say, progress and growth have created nothing but problems for those prone to allergies:

* The widespread use of irrigation has resulted in a 10-month growing season, bad news for those who suffer from pollen and grass allergies.

* Transplanted residents who imported non-native plants have increased the variety of flora that can trigger allergic reactions. The top local offenders, mulberry and olive trees, are not indigenous.

There are more factors and a strange twist but I think that I have sufficiently supported my primary assertion regarding importation of plants and increased irrigation.  I just knew this and have for a long, long time based upon where I have lived and other life experiences which you and others continue to mock on a regular basis.  I only found this after you called me full of shit and felt the need to defend myself once again.

We can also talk about what irrigation has done to Palm Springs and periods of insanely high humidity as a result ...

 

Wow, buddy, you need to take a chill pill with your Dristan!   
  
I'm not calling you full of $h*t. As I said in my second post, you are correct...although I gotta wonder if farming in AZ is the bigger problem than suburban retirees/transplants, given that the "top local offenders" are mulberry and olive trees and the article talks about irrigation. But what do I know. Maybe irrigation is common and needed in the AZ suburbs. Maybe new Arizonans plant olive trees for kicks...even though it takes 5-7 years for a new olive tree to start bearing fruit.  

This is also interesting—from the piece you cited (well done, Kurt: you backed up your assertion!   )

* Phoenix allergist Dr. William Rieck believes that an additional factor as well may be at play here—an allergy-loaded gene pool.

Because people have traditionally moved to the Phoenix area to escape allergy miseries, he said, a higher percentage of the population is allergy-prone. When those people meet and marry others who also suffer from allergies, the odds are good they will pass on allergic tendencies to their children. The process has repeated itself over generations until a city once believed to be allergy-safe actually has a high number of allergy-prone residents.

“Nationwide, about 10% to 15% of the population suffer from allergies,” he said. “Here, about 20% to 25% do.”



For a guy who apparently smokes a lot of herbage, you sure are cranky. 


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Posted: Jun 27, 2020 - 1:20am

 kcar wrote:


OTOH: 
 
Since you insist on wiggling out of this, here's something much older as a reference.  This has long, long, long been known to me.

And regardless of how you try and spin out of this, the importation of plants and irrigation is a primary factor.

From 1993 ... and a real (at the time) news source ...

Phoenix as an Allergy Haven Now Something to Sneeze At

Phoenix is now a sprawling metropolis where, scientists say, progress and growth have created nothing but problems for those prone to allergies:

* The widespread use of irrigation has resulted in a 10-month growing season, bad news for those who suffer from pollen and grass allergies.

* Transplanted residents who imported non-native plants have increased the variety of flora that can trigger allergic reactions. The top local offenders, mulberry and olive trees, are not indigenous.

There are more factors and a strange twist but I think that I have sufficiently supported my primary assertion regarding importation of plants and increased irrigation.  I just knew this and have for a long, long time based upon where I have lived and other life experiences which you and others continue to mock on a regular basis.  I only found this after you called me full of shit and felt the need to defend myself once again.

We can also talk about what irrigation has done to Palm Springs and periods of insanely high humidity as a result ...

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Posted: Jun 27, 2020 - 12:46am



 kurtster wrote:
 

I stand kerrected. 


"The point remains the same ... People who move away from the things they don't like always end up changing their new places into what they left ..."

perhaps a cousin to: "I discovered it, you're ruining it."


OTOH, Tuscon and Phoenix ranked #72 and #73 in this article. That ain't so bad: 

List of worst cities for allergies in the U.S.




April 28, 2015 at 8:51 PM MST - Updated July 9 at 2:57 PMOne of the reasons you moved to Arizona might've been to get away from your allergies from out east. While Arizona doesn't have an abundance of tree and grass pollen, it has plenty of ragweed and dust, two very common allergens.

So, where does Tucson rank among the "worst cities for allergies" list? I found a study from

www.livescience.comin 2013 & a study from

www.healthline.comin 2014. Both used data from the Asthma & Allergy Foundation of America, and both shared 7 of the top 10 cities.

The list was based on

1. Pollen scores

2. Number of board certified allergists per 10,000 patients


3. Number of allergy medications used per patient

...

Tree pollen and mold are major culprits for allergies in the Southeast. Ragweed and dust are potent enough in Arizona to still put Tucson and Phoenix in the top 100...

...72.) Phoenix, AZ
73.) Tucson, AZ

Although Tucson is listed as #73, every year can be different. We've had an incredibly warm and a wetter than normal winter, which contributes to a worse allergy season for Tucson in 2015.

Copyright 2015. Tucson News Now. All Rights Reserved.


kurtster

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Posted: Jun 27, 2020 - 12:22am

 kcar wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Same thing happened to California in the late 60's and early 70's.

Now it is Texas' turn.

People who move away from the things they don't like always end up changing their new places into what they left ...

In Arizona, new arrivals from the East brought their favorite plants with them and turned it into a pollen filled sinus nightmare.  In particular, Scottsdale.  Back in the day there was a commercial for Dristan that had the tag line, send your sinuses to Arizona, with Dristan

.
 
Ummm...Your story doesn't jibe with the commercial. 

The ad implies that Dristan gets rid of the symptoms of clogged sinuses, as if they were as clear of irritation when you were in Arizona. 

Arizona in the ad is not "a pollen filled sinus nightmare." It's a sinus paradise. 

How the importation of some plants from the Northeast would be enough to overwhelm the desert-like conditions of much of Arizona is beyond me. 

So I call BS. 

Fun ad though. 
 
I don't wish to call you any names.  The commercial is from 1960.  Arizona was a sinus paradise back then.  The migration that began in the 1980's is what changed the flora in certain parts of Arizona into a pollen nightmare that continues today, decades later with these plants now well established.  I forgot to add Prescott as another favorite place of easterners.

I guess you've never heard of irrigation.  These non native plants and trees just need a different mix of soil and some regular watering in order to survive in residential areas, cities and some valleys in general in the Arizonan environment.  Arizona is very windy at times along with a monsoon season.  The blooming that follows the monsoon season blows the pollen far distances.  No it is not the whole state, but the whole state used to be a relatively pollen free environment.  Now like many areas, some have more of the types of plants that cause allergies than other areas.  Arizona has now succumbed only because of a migration.

But whatever. You're becoming just like r_p.

The point remains the same ...  People who move away from the things they don't like always end up changing their new places into what they left ...
kcar

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Posted: Jun 26, 2020 - 10:22pm



 kurtster wrote:

Same thing happened to California in the late 60's and early 70's.

Now it is Texas' turn.

People who move away from the things they don't like always end up changing their new places into what they left ...

In Arizona, new arrivals from the East brought their favorite plants with them and turned it into a pollen filled sinus nightmare.  In particular, Scottsdale.  Back in the day there was a commercial for Dristan that had the tag line, send your sinuses to Arizona, with Dristan

.
 


Ummm...Your story doesn't jibe with the commercial. 

The ad implies that Dristan gets rid of the symptoms of clogged sinuses, as if they were as clear of irritation when you were in Arizona. 

Arizona in the ad is not "a pollen filled sinus nightmare." It's a sinus paradise. 

How the importation of some plants from the Northeast would be enough to overwhelm the desert-like conditions of much of Arizona is beyond me. 

So I call BS. 

Fun ad though. 
kurtster

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Posted: Jun 26, 2020 - 9:14pm

 sunybuny wrote:
Now ask how many of them moved here from some other state. Story of our damned lives down here.

 
Same thing happened to California in the late 60's and early 70's.

Now it is Texas' turn.

People who move away from the things they don't like always end up changing their new places into what they left ...

In Arizona, new arrivals from the East brought their favorite plants with them and turned it into a pollen filled sinus nightmare.  In particular, Scottsdale.  Back in the day there was a commercial for Dristan that had the tag line, send your sinuses to Arizona, with Dristan

.
kcar

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Posted: Jun 26, 2020 - 4:59pm



 buddy wrote:
 


Roseanne went off the rails a long time ago. Where's Sarah Palin these days? Last time I heard about her, hubby Todd was filing for divorce. 
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