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Steely_D

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Posted: Sep 15, 2019 - 2:37pm



 kurtster wrote:

+1  

Theoretically, being POTUS is the toughest job in the world.  The events of the day dictate the nature of the job more than the person holding the job.

We are all the sum of our experiences and the baggage we accumulate during our journey through life.  Some people keep things in check better than others and in some cases people just have bad days.  No one is immune from having a bad day.  And when being scrutinized so closely, it is easy to turn a good day into a bad day at the drop of a hat, especially when so many are working as hard as they can to make sure you have a bad day ...
 

The President deserves intense scrutiny, especially his mental state. And, if it's found wanting, the good of the nation requires that we're aware. Whataboutism (OK let's look at the other candidates) doesn't apply here.

It's a good time to remember that Reagan's diminished capacity was hidden from the country.

Now imagine it's not Reagan and it was Clinton that was developing Alzheimer's.
If Bill Clinton, during his presidency, were losing his memory and his ability to think clearly, should we have been aware? Should he have continued to lead the nation?

Leave the partisan stuff aside. If Clinton, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Obama, or Trump are losing their mental capabilities while in office (from organic or psychological causes) then what should happen?

FWIW, I don't believe Trump has psych issues as much as something organic. Something is causing him to have speech problems, obviously, and it implies something about his ability to process information as well. (Saying that Melania has a son. "Where's my favorite dictator?!?" etc - they don't strike me as someone who just "refuses to play the game because he's a brilliant businessman" but as something that interferes with his ability to not behave like someone's addled grandpa.)
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Posted: Sep 15, 2019 - 12:45pm

‘Emperor has no Clothes:’ Trump asked of Egypt’s al-Sisi, ‘Where’s my Favorite Dictator?’
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Posted: Sep 15, 2019 - 11:44am

 westslope wrote:
Would not high blood pressure contribute to a reddish cast?    Those gorgeous man breasts and delicious shapely hips typically come at a cost.
 
Yes, more spray-tanning product (to fill the nooks and crannies) during his weekend golf outings, but since he owns the joint, it's a write-off (presentation business expense likely logged at several times the nominal cost)... 
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Posted: Sep 15, 2019 - 11:37am



 R_P wrote:
Trump blamed energy-saving bulbs for making him look orange. Experts say probably not.
On previous occasions, the president’s distinctive complexion has been framed by his aides as a sign of health. In a Times article that ran in the deep of winter this year, a senior administration official said that Trump’s orange skin tone was the result of “good genes.”

 

Would not high blood pressure contribute to a reddish cast?    Those gorgeous man breasts and delicious shapely hips typically come at a cost.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2019 - 10:05am

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 Coaxial wrote:
 Please, Kurt, you have to see that his mental state has diminished, please admit that, or all else is superfluous because we have no baseline for discussion. 
 
Perhaps it is not so much that his mental state is diminished; he may have had psychiatric pathologies of one sort or another most of his life.  Being president brings a level of scrutiny and  unwanted attention, which may make it much harder for him to conceal his dysfunction.    The unaccustomed close scrutiny could also aggravate things, I imagine.
 
+1  

Theoretically, being POTUS is the toughest job in the world.  The events of the day dictate the nature of the job more than the person holding the job.

We are all the sum of our experiences and the baggage we accumulate during our journey through life.  Some people keep things in check better than others and in some cases people just have bad days.  No one is immune from having a bad day.  And when being scrutinized so closely, it is easy to turn a good day into a bad day at the drop of a hat, especially when so many are working as hard as they can to make sure you have a bad day ...
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Posted: Sep 15, 2019 - 9:46am



 Coaxial wrote:
 Please, Kurt, you have to see that his mental state has diminished, please admit that, or all else is superfluous because we have no baseline for discussion. 
 

Related: Pat McCrory was on Meet the Press and he opined that the 10 Dems did not appear “presidential” during Thursday’s debate. He reasoned that their failure to present themselves as presidential would defang that issue as to Trump. Seriously.
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Posted: Sep 15, 2019 - 8:25am



 Coaxial wrote:
 Please, Kurt, you have to see that his mental state has diminished, please admit that, or all else is superfluous because we have no baseline for discussion. 
 
Perhaps it is not so much that his mental state is diminished; he may have had psychiatric pathologies of one sort or another most of his life.  Being president brings a level of scrutiny and  unwanted attention, which may make it much harder for him to conceal his dysfunction.    The unaccustomed close scrutiny could also aggravate things, I imagine.
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Posted: Sep 15, 2019 - 7:17am

 kurtster wrote:
I keep seeing posts about Trump's so called mental state that violate the spirit and intent of the Goldwater Rule.

Perhaps it is time to openly speculate about the mental state of his democratic opponents.  If so, we should start with the three front runners to be fair.

How about Biden and Warren being pathological liars ?  Or are they suffering from the onset of dementia ?  Easy to make the case for both.  Bernie is just a garden variety liar.  But he also has his own issues.
  Please, Kurt, you have to see that his mental state has diminished, please admit that, or all else is superfluous because we have no baseline for discussion. 
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Posted: Sep 15, 2019 - 4:37am

I keep seeing posts about Trump's so called mental state that violate the spirit and intent of the Goldwater Rule.

Perhaps it is time to openly speculate about the mental state of his democratic opponents.  If so, we should start with the three front runners to be fair.

How about Biden and Warren being pathological liars ?  Or are they suffering from the onset of dementia ?  Easy to make the case for both.  Bernie is just a garden variety liar.  But he also has his own issues.
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Posted: Sep 15, 2019 - 3:53am

Trump is not well


FTA:

Donald Trump’s disordered personality—his unhealthy patterns of thinking, functioning, and behaving—has become the defining characteristic of his presidency. It manifests itself in multiple ways: his extreme narcissism; his addiction to lying about things large and small, including his finances and bullying and silencing those who could expose them; his detachment from reality, including denying things he said even when there is video evidence to the contrary; his affinity for conspiracy theories; his demand for total loyalty from others while showing none to others; and his self-aggrandizement and petty cheating.

It manifests itself in Trump’s impulsiveness and vindictiveness; his craving for adulation; his misogyny, predatory sexual behavior, and sexualization of his daughters; his open admiration for brutal dictators; his remorselessness; and his lack of empathy and sympathy, including attacking a family whose son died while fighting for this country, mocking a reporter with a disability, and ridiculing a former POW.


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Posted: Sep 14, 2019 - 6:50pm

Trump blamed energy-saving bulbs for making him look orange. Experts say probably not.
On previous occasions, the president’s distinctive complexion has been framed by his aides as a sign of health. In a Times article that ran in the deep of winter this year, a senior administration official said that Trump’s orange skin tone was the result of “good genes.”

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Posted: Sep 14, 2019 - 8:31am

When Hollywood Warned Us About Leaders Like Trump  (Putin's pliant puppet)
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Posted: Sep 13, 2019 - 8:48pm

Trump explains his distinctive orange hue: it's the lightbulbs
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Posted: Sep 13, 2019 - 1:14pm

Opinion | Trump Hits the Panic Button - The New York Times
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Posted: Sep 11, 2019 - 4:45pm

Just my opinion: tRUMP IS A SELF-CENTERED, CHRONIC LYING, MISOGYNISTIC, RACIST MORON SUPPORTED BY PUTIN AND A SCREAMING ARMY OF SELF-CENTERED, RACIST MORONS
oh yeah, and corrupt swindlers out to make a killing on screwing over The United States 
House Democrats Are Examining Whether the Middleman in Trump’s Secret Moscow Deal Withheld Information – Mother Jones
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Posted: Sep 11, 2019 - 10:11am



 kurtster wrote:

Isn't that how nearly all serious (not those running for cabinet positions) POTUS candidates think of themselves ?  They alone are the most qualified to be POTUS ?  Thought that was a given.

hey, just my 2¢  Not trying to start anything.  I could be totally wrong.  Just what I am hoping for is all.  Time will tell.
 
yes, sure.  but not to a guy who stumbled into it.  and i wouldnt argue he's significantly more wrong on  policies  than the average schmuck in there the last few decades.  but the volatility, uncertainty, and  unamerican attitude of us v. them is absolutely where he fails.  Take the wall.  Whether we should or shouldnt build a wall is not the point, but making it central to your platform, policy, legacy or whatever is not the american way.  Thats what his opponents are arguing, not so effectively, against.  

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Posted: Sep 11, 2019 - 9:32am

 black321 wrote:
Re. Kursters post below…I don’t necessarily doubt comments like “Trump has been thinking about China for many years…” But what I find humorous with the Trumpsters is how they portray him as a mastermind, who has been sitting on the sidelines waiting for his moment to launch his historical strategy on the world…it’s just plain silly. The guy stumbled into the presidency after a publicity stunt. Maybe he has a few “ideas” about the world order, but please stop the nonsense that this is some master strategists pulling the U.S. from the depths of its own ignorance on foreign and economic policy. He’s the wrong answer, to the right questions.

 
Isn't that how nearly all serious (not those running for cabinet positions) POTUS candidates think of themselves ?  They alone are the most qualified to be POTUS ?  Thought that was a given.

hey, just my 2¢  Not trying to start anything.  I could be totally wrong.  Just what I am hoping for is all.  Time will tell.
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Posted: Sep 11, 2019 - 6:55am

Yes Proclivities, also from graduates of Trump University in Business Management 🎓 😬
black321

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Posted: Sep 11, 2019 - 6:21am

Re. Kursters post below…I don’t necessarily doubt comments like “Trump has been thinking about China for many years…” But what I find humorous with the Trumpsters is how they portray him as a mastermind, who has been sitting on the sidelines waiting for his moment to launch his historical strategy on the world…it’s just plain silly. The guy stumbled into the presidency after a publicity stunt. Maybe he has a few “ideas” about the world order, but please stop the nonsense that this is some master strategists pulling the U.S. from the depths of its own ignorance on foreign and economic policy. He’s the wrong answer, to the right questions.

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Posted: Sep 10, 2019 - 9:47pm

 steeler wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Maybe to you.  The understanding that I have is that the entire purpose of the meeting was for Trump to look the players directly in their eyes in order to size everyone up.  There was never any other purpose for these meetings as the two opposing sides were never scheduled to meet each other.  For them to meet would have meant that there was something already on the table.

And yeah, good riddance JB.  Trump gets credit for being willing to listen to all sides however ... that is what good leaders do.
 

First paragraph: If your take is accurate, why was it suddenly no longer necessary for Trump to “size” up these players? 

Second paragraph: if Trump is so willing to hear opposing views, why is there a revolving door in and out of senior advisors? 

 
1st P.  Trump is calling the shots here.  This meeting was a well kept secret.  It was only revealed after it failed to happen and if the Taliban hadn't confirmed that the meeting was indeed real and scheduled, I doubt that anyone would have taken Trump's word that there really was a meeting scheduled in the first place.  On the bolded, I'm taking the admin's explanation at face value.  We don't know all the facts, obviously and I don't claim to know what Trump is doing exactly here.  I can only speculate.  And I will since you asked even though I doubt that you really want to hear what I will say.  None of it will make sense unless you first accept that Trump is truly an Anti War POTUS.  With that caveat proceed at your own risk.

I have been following Trump for years, long before The Apprentice came about.  For starters, I really do believe that Trump is actually trying to fix things that have been broken for decades and reverse how prior admins have let other countries take advantage of our country.  Trump does have a plan.  He's been thinking about China for many years prior to even running for POTUS and what is wrong between our two countries.  He's been thinking about NATO for years and how we have been taken advantage there as well.

So one by one, he is systematically going down his list, calling everyone's bluff and getting our adversaries and detractors to reveal their true positions and intentions so he can form a response.  It is a management style that I recognize having used it myself.  When confronted by people who say that they unable to do certain things I would say ok what are the obstacles that prevent you from properly doing your job and what do you need me to do in order to make you able to do your job.  To be fair and objective, the first time they are taken at face value with the proper amount of cynicism in an honest effort to fix things for all.  You then come up with the solution that gives them what they need so they can actually do their job properly.  So they either get their act together and do the given task properly or if they don't you might give them the benefit of the doubt and try the same process again.  A second fail and you begin to look at motivations, strengths and weaknesses of these people / agencies and figure out or size them up regarding their willingness and / or ability to accomplish what they say they can do.

Moving right along through the ongoing negotiations in Qatar (?) to where we are taking things to the next step, considering actually making a deal.  First thing that has to be established is are you who you say you really are ?  Do you really control the people you claim to represent ?  If not, then we are speaking to the wrong people or there are too many groups still competing for that position.  If so, then there is no way to make a deal because no one can claim that they have enough control over their people to get everyone to comply.  This weekend we came a bit closer to that answer regarding the Taliban.  My opinion is that they are bluffing about the fact that they have the necessary control to get everyone under them to comply.  Or they are not really all that smart because if they were, they would not have claimed credit for the most recent car bombing in Kabul until after the meeting.  Tells me that there are definitely competing factions / tribes (being in Afghanistan) within the Taliban and that a deal is basically presently impossible.  I think that this is Trump's conclusion when he says that any deal is now "dead".  He is not afraid to cut his / our losses.  A known strength demonstrated by his use of bankruptcy laws.

All of this because of a real meeting that didn't happen.  The bluff was successfully called, imo.  It's now time for Plan B.  Getting all the way out of Afghanistan and cutting it loose.  Turn it over to the locals.  Russia has its hands full with an opiod problem of their own sourced right out of Afghanistan.  They have a motivation to get involved.  We are now energy independent and have new options that we never had before now that Trump has turned around energy policy in this country.

I trust Trump's foreign policy.  He has not started any new wars as all the fear mongers predicted.  He's gotten slacker NATO members to cough up more cash.  He did what other presidents promised but never delivered by recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital.  War did not break out as the fear mongers promised.  Problems in the Middle East no longer have a major impact on oil prices.  Quite frankly, despite all the sabre rattling, the Middle East is relatively stable for the first time in years, mainly because their oil is less important in over all global strategy and they have less leverage as a result.  OPEC has been taken down a notch or two.  The two remaining competing forces for Middle Eastern oil are China and the EU.  Israel is our permanent foot in the door over there.  Turkey is a NATO country in name only and can no longer be counted on.  The EU is basically a negative interest rate zone and ramping up to print more money.  China devalued its currency by 12% and what it really did was transfer more of the tariff burden back onto the Chinese.  The tariff collected is less because the goods now cost less because of the currency devaluation.  China eats that 12% right off of their top line before the stuff even leaves the country.  That 12% is real money.  It hurts them hard.  The cost of gold in $'s has gone up 25% since this trade war began.  The cost of gold to China has gone up 45% in their currency due to their devaluation.  They have one of the largest gold reserves in the world.  China only buys gold, it does not sell it.  It also devalues the US Treasury Bonds that they hold because it now costs less in real dollars to pay them off.  Huawei and 5G.  They need our chips and we have their princess locked up in Canada.  Hong Kong.  We have China on the ropes.  We must follow through with this.

Bolton, some other time, I'm tired now.

ymmv.

straight answer to your straight question

in the respectful spirit of the dozen or so years we have been conversing 

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