Steely_D wrote:
Esp. abroad.

“People who don’t want the government to interfere with their lives are the same people who want the government to interfere with the lives of everyone else.”

 kurtster wrote:

You guys (including ThisBody in this)  are funny. You are both genuinely afraid of big government / the deep state, which is something one can kind of understand, but then you both put your shoulders behind forces that can only be described as fascist dictatorships ... the one form of government that is demonstrably BIG GOVERNMENT writ large and responsible for all kinds of atrocities in the past.   When called out on it,  you double down and call for the removal of rules and regulation that are there to prevent the worst abuses of power by big business, as though you guys had any benefit at all from big corporations offshoring their tax liabilities and avoiding environmental / labor / social laws that are there to protect the little guys.

I really don't get it. 

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
  Its kinda like TNWO (the new world order).  You know the thing that was called out as a whacked out CT for decades, until it became acknowledged and real.
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Fear not, useful idiots (comrades) have their place.  Your place is in the TDS cult that follows their shiny object of distraction and runs willing interference against those who oppose it.

Where again is the current manifestation of fascist antisemitism coming from ?  It sure ain't the repubs.

I am very sure that you have no idea in hell what I'm talking about.  Doesn't matter.

 thisbody wrote:

Sorry, you lost me at "deep state".

 Red_Dragon wrote:
While the so-called Democrats keep feeding the military-industrial complex, and allow the deep state to spy on us all like never before, and engage in war-mongering at their best and most, all in the name of democracy... flies all green and buzzin' in this dungeon of despair, the torture never stops!

Luxury yachts and other myths: How Republican lawmakers echo Russian propaganda

Shall we return to the good ol days?
When people of color and women knew their place?
When the 'weirdo's' kept their secrets secret?
And Military Conscription forced young men to fight in wars?

Political control of people's bodies will not simply stop with reproductive organs of American Women.
With two hot wars, (the ancient, who's wanker is bigger scenario)  Silly wabbit, don't you know that once in power, and essentially eliminating any more elections, Republicans will quickly separate low wage sons from the silver spooners to protect their interest$?
"Voter's voices" will mean nothing. A police state controlled by extremes will simply kill those who resist.  
Forget Roe at your peril, gentlemen.


Those who do not learn from History, are doomed to repeat it. — Winston Churchill

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
I like Ryan McBeth's definition of isolationism: building your walls so high you can't see the enemy coming.

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
So, the Brown Stained Shirts are coming?

CBS: "For information about the Ukraine-Russia conflict, Republicans put their trust of Donald Trump higher than the U.S. military/Pentagon; higher than conservative media sources;" and far higher than journalists in the war zone. https://t.co/NGjOPJg07i pic.twitter.com/A0ZV0AWJQ4

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) April 14, 2024

The Republican right treats Ukraine as an enemy and Russia as a friend. Defining that stance as isolationist is lazy and wrong. It is actively pro-Russian.

 rgio wrote:

Unless something should happen to Drumph AND his veep. 

 Steely_D wrote:
I think we'll see the Republicans pivot to the center in 2028, assuming Trump loses.  

If he wins, there won't be an election, so it won't matter.  Either way, I just don't see Johnson as the "next".

 rgio wrote:
Which is why he’s gonna be a favorite of the GOP when T either loses or wins. 

 rgio wrote:

Concur.

 steeler wrote:
Trump turns on everyone not named Ivanka.  Yes, Melania, you're on notice (thanks to your help with the campaign).

Johnson has no chance IMO.  His worldview can be found in the bible?  God made him speaker?  

He's got the same increasingly out-of-step conservative views as Trump, except with him, you know he believes it.   

 steeler wrote:

He's still got a shot at being trump's VP (doesn't mean trump won't turn on him).

 Steely_D wrote:
If he survives the threatened motion to vacate and if Trump does not turn on him.

He might survive the former, probably not the latter.

Mike Johnson - GOP Presidential nominee 2028. You read it here first.
And he’d have a very good chance.