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Posted: Jun 24, 2020 - 2:24pm

The Jobs We Need
Over the past four decades, American workers have suffered a devastating loss of economic power, manifest in their wages, benefits and working conditions. The annual economic output of the United States has almost tripled, but, with the help of policymakers from both political parties, the wealthy hoarded the fruits.

In the nation’s slaughterhouses, the average worker in 1982 made $24 an hour in inflation-adjusted dollars, or $50,000 a year. Today the average meatpacker processes significantly more meat — and makes less than $14 an hour.

The hundreds of thousands of home health care aides, often female, often minorities, who care for a nation of aging baby boomers rarely receive paid time to care for their own families.

Even in the high-flying technology sector, companies have found ways to leave their workers behind. More than half of the people who work for Google do not actually work for Google. They are classified as contractors, which means they do not need to be treated as employees. (...)

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Posted: Jun 19, 2020 - 3:35pm

U.S. Ranked Worst for Workers’ Rights Among Major Economies
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Posted: May 27, 2020 - 10:40am

Human capital stock
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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 3:39pm



 miamizsun wrote:


so this isn't a free market?

i'm gobsmacked!
 

I've come to think that the fundamental problem is that the wealth has been concentrated to the point that a few people end up with so much more money than they have investment opportunities. The amount of money is so far beyond what they need, that the risk vs reward calculations are fubared. Why not pour venture capital into dodgy tech startups that are unlikely to turn a profit? You might get lucky and they might look good enough later for you to sell at a profit. If not, write it off and no big deal. Why not bet on 00?
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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 1:35pm

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I'm not saying the system's rigged, but the dice are loaded
 

so this isn't a free market?

i'm gobsmacked!
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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 10:54am



 rgio wrote:


 black321 wrote:
Quote on CNBC today:
"I can't think of a more dystopic end to 2020 then new record S&P 500, and unemployment of 10-25%"
 
No small business competition....no office space....fewer employees...all good. 

Come October....with 20 Million out of work and still no safe way to hug your grandparents...."the greatest recovery in the history of the world".
 

I'm not saying the system's rigged, but the dice are loaded
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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 9:26am



 black321 wrote:
Quote on CNBC today:
"I can't think of a more dystopic end to 2020 then new record S&P 500, and unemployment of 10-25%"
 
No small business competition....no office space....fewer employees...all good. 

Come October....with 20 Million out of work and still no safe way to hug your grandparents...."the greatest recovery in the history of the world".
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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 9:15am

Quote on CNBC today:
"I can't think of a more dystopic end to 2020 then new record S&P 500, and unemployment of 10-25%"
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 12:15pm

 R_P wrote:
 
And?
 
Just wondering.
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 12:14pm

 black321 wrote:
2+ months into covid and another 2M jobless claims this week, total over 38M filed.
Unemployment likely now over 20%.
US expected to borrow over $4.5T this year.
State deficits ballooning
Fed balance sheet over $6T, and to swell to over $10T by FYE
1/3 of main street retail dont expect to reopen
Stock market recovering nicely....boosted by big tech and other large caps that not only will survive covid but thrive
Bond markets, which better reflect the real economy, still with historical low rates...10 year bond still below 1%, indicating rates expected to remain low as the economy struggles at least through 2021


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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 11:52am

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Hmmm.  Something bugging you ?  You posted this yesterday in the CV 19 thread.
 
And?
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 11:44am

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Hmmm.  Something bugging you ?  You posted this yesterday in the CV 19 thread.
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 10:55am

The Communist party will survive Covid-19
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 10:00am

 Proclivities wrote:


 miamizsun wrote:


{#Wave}

...there is a very popular belief that the world is going to hell in a hand basket (after watching the news, i think it is the default position)

doom sells and bad news leads for sure, this is not to say that we do not have some huge challenges (we do and we always will)


...
just be prepared for some push back if you point good news out
{#Umbrella}
 
Of course there are always huge and sometimes terrifying challenges, and these immediate ones are very frightening, especially with the uncertainty, but yes, the old "hell-in-a-handbasket" or the "end-is-near" belief is a constant - at least throughout most of the 20th Century.  Think of what people lamented about during each decade.  Pessimism, fatalism, and nihilism are always popular poses - they can make one seem all-knowing, distant, and cool.

 
man i just got some super spiffy sneakers in the mail (really)

which way to the mothership?
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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 8:27am



 black321 wrote:
2+ months into covid and another 2M jobless claims this week, total over 38M filed.
Unemployment likely now over 20%.
US expected to borrow over $4.5T this year.
State deficits ballooning
Fed balance sheet over $6T, and to swell to over $10T by FYE
1/3 of main street retail dont expect to reopen
Stock market recovering nicely....boosted by big tech and other large caps that not only will survive covid but thrive
Bond markets, which better reflect the real economy, still with historical low rates...10 year bond still below 1%, indicating rates expected to remain low as the economy struggles at least through 2021

 
But I did save 15% on car insurance this month!

Good thing we were only running at $1Trillion deficit/year during the "Greatest Economy Ever".   {/snark}

Now the Democrats are going to have to raise taxes following the Republican "blue light specials"...and in a few years they'll be back to complaining we need a balanced budget and lower taxes.    Round and round......

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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 8:12am

2+ months into covid and another 2M jobless claims this week, total over 38M filed.
Unemployment likely now over 20%.
US expected to borrow over $4.5T this year.
State deficits ballooning
Fed balance sheet over $6T, and to swell to over $10T by FYE
1/3 of main street retail dont expect to reopen
Stock market recovering nicely....boosted by big tech and other large caps that not only will survive covid but thrive
Bond markets, which better reflect the real economy, still with historical low rates...10 year bond still below 1%, indicating rates expected to remain low as the economy struggles at least through 2021

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Posted: May 6, 2020 - 12:11pm



 miamizsun wrote:


{#Wave}


...there is a very popular belief that the world is going to hell in a hand basket (after watching the news, i think it is the default position)

doom sells and bad news leads for sure, this is not to say that we do not have some huge challenges (we do and we always will)


...
just be prepared for some push back if you point good news out
{#Umbrella}
 
Of course there are always huge and sometimes terrifying challenges, and these immediate ones are very frightening, especially with the uncertainty, but yes, the old "hell-in-a-handbasket" or the "end-is-near" belief is a constant - at least throughout most of the 20th Century.  Think of what people lamented about during each decade.  Pessimism, fatalism, and nihilism are always popular poses - they can make one seem all-knowing, distant, and cool.

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Posted: May 6, 2020 - 9:56am

 miamizsun wrote:


{#Wave}

haresfur's instructor is correct (basic property/human rights with access to energy, technology increases production/education = women coming out of the house into careers)

or something similar

there is a very popular belief that the world is going to hell in a hand basket (after watching the news, i think it is the default position)

doom sells and bad news leads for sure, this is not to say that we do not have some huge challenges (we do and we always will)

however there is quite a bit of measurable human progress

have a look at our world in data (like hans rosling and steven pinker among others have pointed this out)

just be prepared for some push back if you point good news out
{#Umbrella}
 
We don't take kindly to good news round here.  Now, now Skeeter settle down.{#Cowboy}
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Posted: May 6, 2020 - 9:29am

 cc_rider wrote:


 haresfur wrote:

for what it's worth, my sociology prof argued the reverse. Get people into a secure economic situation and they will limit their reproduction.
 
 Unfortunately the number of people/families in secure situations, all over the world, has dropped considerably. Forget COVID-19, it's been happening for decades.
c.

 

{#Wave}

haresfur's instructor is correct (basic property/human rights with access to energy, technology increases production/education = women coming out of the house into careers)

or something similar

there is a very popular belief that the world is going to hell in a hand basket (after watching the news, i think it is the default position)

doom sells and bad news leads for sure, this is not to say that we do not have some huge challenges (we do and we always will)

however there is quite a bit of measurable human progress

have a look at our world in data (like hans rosling and steven pinker among others have pointed this out)

just be prepared for some push back if you point good news out
{#Umbrella}
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Posted: May 6, 2020 - 8:44am



 haresfur wrote:


 westslope wrote:


 

for what it's worth, my sociology prof argued the reverse. Get people into a secure economic situation and they will limit their reproduction. I think you need access to birth control, abortion, health care, and aged care along with economic security. If the one child program was an aspirational policy, not a rule, it would be ok.

Overall, I believe there is less misrepresentation of the crisis in China than there is in the USA.
 
That theory has well-established empirical evidence to back it up. Unfortunately the number of people/families in secure situations, all over the world, has dropped considerably. Forget COVID-19, it's been happening for decades.
c.

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