Me thinks that Musk isn't reading the room right. Americans are tired of the same old same old that works for the few, not the many (See Mamdani election results). I don't see a flock of support to a Musk party being in the cards at this time. But then again, what do I know?
Agreed but which established party will it hurt more if he tried to move forward with it? I'm guessing Republican so maybe not a bad thing. I don't think very many Dems are going to flock to a Musk established alternative.
Me thinks that Musk isn't reading the room right. Americans are tired of the same old same old that works for the few, not the many (See Mamdani election results). I don't see a flock of support to a Musk party being in the cards at this time. But then again, what do I know?
While you are correct that reproductive rights is among the major issues for the Democrats, you are wrong to assert it overrides all other issues. Universal healthcare for all citizens, the social safety net of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, access to higher education regardless of economic standing, and fiercely protecting & preserving individual Constitutional rights & the rule of law it defines are all of equal importance. We are not as small-minded as you paint us, which ironically is quite small-minded for you to continually assert.
Most of all, we are about building up & advancing our society to not only meet the challenges of the future, but to have our country to take the lead in continuing in our quest to create a more perfect union, and to share that lofty ideal with the rest of the world.
Meanwhile, we are not about tearing down the institutions & values weâve fought to preserve & protect for over 200 years. We are not about taking our society back to the 1950âs. We believe America was already Great & therefore doesnât require a radical MAGA party (which is most assuredly not the Republican Party anymore) to make it âgreat againâ.
Your arguments are sophomoric at best & mean-spirited with the intent to enflame emotions at worst. I donât believe you are honestly trying to debate the issues to try to enlighten us or win us over to your point of view. Whatever your actual intentions, you continually come across as spoiling for a fight by invariably going the low road & inciting emotional responses. Itâs quite an interesting psychological reveal, But please donât waste your time playing the poor wounded victim here. You thrive on the fight, which has been quite transparent for, well, years now. But itâs your choice, so carry on as you must.
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Jun 7, 2025 - 7:00am
buddy wrote:
While you are correct that reproductive rights is among the major issues for the Democrats, you are wrong to assert it overrides all other issues. Universal healthcare for all citizens, the social safety net of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, access to higher education regardless of economic standing, and fiercely protecting & preserving individual Constitutional rights & the rule of law it defines are all of equal importance. We are not as small-minded as you paint us, which ironically is quite small-minded for you to continually assert.
Most of all, we are about building up & advancing our society to not only meet the challenges of the future, but to have our country to take the lead in continuing in our quest to create a more perfect union, and to share that lofty ideal with the rest of the world.
Meanwhile, we are not about tearing down the institutions & values weâve fought to preserve & protect for over 200 years. We are not about taking our society back to the 1950âs. We believe America was already Great & therefore doesnât require a radical MAGA party (which is most assuredly not the Republican Party anymore) to make it âgreat againâ.
While you are correct that reproductive rights is among the major issues for the Democrats, you are wrong to assert it overrides all other issues. Universal healthcare for all citizens, the social safety net of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, access to higher education regardless of economic standing, and fiercely protecting & preserving individual Constitutional rights & the rule of law it defines are all of equal importance. We are not as small-minded as you paint us, which ironically is quite small-minded for you to continually assert.
Most of all, we are about building up & advancing our society to not only meet the challenges of the future, but to have our country to take the lead in continuing in our quest to create a more perfect union, and to share that lofty ideal with the rest of the world.
Meanwhile, we are not about tearing down the institutions & values weâve fought to preserve & protect for over 200 years. We are not about taking our society back to the 1950âs. We believe America was already Great & therefore doesnât require a radical MAGA party (which is most assuredly not the Republican Party anymore) to make it âgreat againâ.
Your arguments are sophomoric at best & mean-spirited with the intent to enflame emotions at worst. I donât believe you are honestly trying to debate the issues to try to enlighten us or win us over to your point of view. Whatever your actual intentions, you continually come across as spoiling for a fight by invariably going the low road & inciting emotional responses. Itâs quite an interesting psychological reveal, But please donât waste your time playing the poor wounded victim here. You thrive on the fight, which has been quite transparent for, well, years now. But itâs your choice, so carry on as you must.
I want to live next door to buddy and people like him.
Great, now go and apply it to those who vote the abortion issue over everything else, which was my point.
While you are correct that reproductive rights is among the major issues for the Democrats, you are wrong to assert it overrides all other issues. Universal healthcare for all citizens, the social safety net of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, access to higher education regardless of economic standing, and fiercely protecting & preserving individual Constitutional rights & the rule of law it defines are all of equal importance. We are not as small-minded as you paint us, which ironically is quite small-minded for you to continually assert.
Most of all, we are about building up & advancing our society to not only meet the challenges of the future, but to have our country to take the lead in continuing in our quest to create a more perfect union, and to share that lofty ideal with the rest of the world.
Meanwhile, we are not about tearing down the institutions & values weâve fought to preserve & protect for over 200 years. We are not about taking our society back to the 1950âs. We believe America was already Great & therefore doesnât require a radical MAGA party (which is most assuredly not the Republican Party anymore) to make it âgreat againâ.
Your arguments are sophomoric at best & mean-spirited with the intent to enflame emotions at worst. I donât believe you are honestly trying to debate the issues to try to enlighten us or win us over to your point of view. Whatever your actual intentions, you continually come across as spoiling for a fight by invariably going the low road & inciting emotional responses. Itâs quite an interesting psychological reveal, But please donât waste your time playing the poor wounded victim here. You thrive on the fight, which has been quite transparent for, well, years now. But itâs your choice, so carry on as you must.
...and all that other stuff about waning citizens' freedom and false arrest and ICE doing human trafficking and widespread joblessness and no health care and no education and no infrastructure and Russian kowtowing and loss of allies and market chaos and racism and police with masks and pardoned felons and pardoned thieves and Epstein files and luxury developments in the UAE...that'll all come secondary. Just keep on with the border issue, folks.
Yes, that's what it boils down to for him - and the rest of MAGA - Trump hates the same people he does, they do.
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Jun 6, 2025 - 2:37pm
kurtster wrote:
Yes, that is my one issue. I will support those that take it seriously and actually act on it. No borders, no country.
...and all that other stuff about waning citizens' freedom and false arrest and ICE doing human trafficking and widespread joblessness and no health care and no education and no infrastructure and Russian kowtowing and loss of allies and market chaos and racism and police with masks and pardoned felons and pardoned thieves and Epstein files and luxury developments in the UAE...that'll all come secondary. Just keep on with the border issue, folks.
Yes, that is my one issue. I will support those that take it seriously and actually act on it. No borders, no country.
Given the pending recession, the Mexicans are gonna have to up their game to the Americans out.
Let's put this in terms maybe you can relate to.
Your sole focus on the election was a guarantee that you would receive a $25,000 turntable. Now that you have it, you've come to realize (or at least acknowledge) that in return for the turntable, they are going to turn off the power grid.
In the end, what you've got is useless and destroys the quality of life for you and others.... but at least you've got what's truly important to you.
Yes, that is my one issue. I will support those that take it seriously and actually act on it. No borders, no country.
Same as the other one issue that has kept democrats in power, abortion rights. Those single issue voters will put up with anything the democrats do as long as the abortion issue is addressed.
