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Posted: Jun 14, 2021 - 12:33am

 Lazy8 wrote:

I read his book On Tyranny and found it eloquent, timely, and maybe a little hyperbolic. This article is just over the top.

It supposes a very involved and fragile chain of events, starting with Republicans taking back both the house and senate; retaining an airtight grip on state legislatures despite losing the popular presidential vote, then overriding that popular vote to send an electoral college delegation bent on electing a Republican; then that house and senate voting to seat those delegates to put him in the white house.

I've officially given up predicting elections, but this is just a rehash of the ever-fashionable prediction that whatever evil bastard from The Other Party is in power will declare a state of emergency and stay in power via martial law. But this one comes with a call to action: we must act now!

...and do what, exactly?

Anybody?


Frankly that's exactly what I think would have happened if the Democrats hadn't retaken the house in 2018.  As far as acting now, I think this probably won't play out because the voter suppression laws will make it unlikely that a Democrat will win the popular vote in eough states to make a difference. 
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Posted: Jun 13, 2021 - 9:39pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
I read his book On Tyranny and found it eloquent, timely, and maybe a little hyperbolic. This article is just over the top.

It supposes a very involved and fragile chain of events, starting with Republicans taking back both the house and senate; retaining an airtight grip on state legislatures despite losing the popular presidential vote, then overriding that popular vote to send an electoral college delegation bent on electing a Republican; then that house and senate voting to seat those delegates to put him in the white house.

I've officially given up predicting elections, but this is just a rehash of the ever-fashionable prediction that whatever evil bastard from The Other Party is in power will declare a state of emergency and stay in power via martial law. But this one comes with a call to action: we must act now!

...and do what, exactly?

Anybody?
Steely_D

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Posted: Jun 13, 2021 - 5:27pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


I hate The Democratic Party only slightly less than I hate the Rethuglican. I'd love to see the party system abolished.


Except an awful lot of people are still in the "our team is better than yours" mindset, so they have to see that clear division instead of a nuanced discussion of issues and positions.

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Posted: Jun 13, 2021 - 5:20pm

 rhahl wrote:

If the Falsehopeocrats loose the Senate and House, I think it will be by large enough margins that voter suppression will not be responsible.
 
It's like Ralph Nader said in 2000, why should it have to be so close?  Al Gore lost his home state even though Tennessee had sent someone named Gore to Washington for the last fifty years. It was because he picked Lieberman as veep. Then they knew, "He's not one of us."  Dems are not working for us. Being the "inauthentic opposition" is a business.
 
Oh, and Gore actually won, but he mishandled the recount, and then gave up.


I hate The Democratic Party only slightly less than I hate the Rethuglican. I'd love to see the party system abolished.
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Posted: Jun 13, 2021 - 3:52pm

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
If the Falsehopeocrats loose the Senate and House, I think it will be by large enough margins that voter suppression will not be responsible.
 
It's like Ralph Nader said in 2000, why should it have to be so close?  Al Gore lost his home state even though Tennessee had sent someone named Gore to Washington for the last fifty years. It was because he picked Lieberman as veep. Then they knew, "He's not one of us."  Dems are not working for us. Being the "inauthentic opposition" is a business.
 
Oh, and Gore actually won, but he mishandled the recount, and then gave up.
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Posted: Jun 13, 2021 - 2:30pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
You live on a boat.


there is something about being on a boat...(nsfw)

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Posted: Jun 13, 2021 - 2:02pm

 islander wrote:


I feel this deeply. I'm also looking for that exit. 


You live on a boat.
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Posted: Jun 13, 2021 - 8:38am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

I feel this deeply. I'm also looking for that exit. 
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Posted: Jun 12, 2021 - 1:16pm

9/11 and 1/6