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Israel - R_P - Jul 25, 2024 - 10:27am
 
What inspires you? - Isabeau - Jul 25, 2024 - 10:25am
 
As California Goes, So Goes The Rest Of The Country - black321 - Jul 25, 2024 - 9:51am
 
The War On You - Isabeau - Jul 25, 2024 - 9:31am
 
J.D. Vance - rgio - Jul 25, 2024 - 9:30am
 
Joe Biden - Isabeau - Jul 25, 2024 - 9:29am
 
Name My Band - Isabeau - Jul 25, 2024 - 9:22am
 
Neoliberalism: what exactly is it? - Red_Dragon - Jul 25, 2024 - 9:03am
 
The Obituary Page - Antigone - Jul 25, 2024 - 8:43am
 
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NYTimes Connections - Bill_J - Jul 25, 2024 - 8:13am
 
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Radio Paradise Comments - GeneP59 - Jul 25, 2024 - 6:11am
 
SCOTUS - Red_Dragon - Jul 24, 2024 - 7:56pm
 
2024 Elections! - black321 - Jul 24, 2024 - 5:56pm
 
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Lyrics that are stuck in your head today... - thisbody - Jul 24, 2024 - 9:39am
 
Song stuck in your head? - thisbody - Jul 24, 2024 - 9:29am
 
Play the Blues - thisbody - Jul 24, 2024 - 9:24am
 
Songs with a Groove - thisbody - Jul 24, 2024 - 9:04am
 
Climate Change - R_P - Jul 24, 2024 - 8:54am
 
Things You Thought Today - Proclivities - Jul 24, 2024 - 8:30am
 
RightWingNutZ - Steely_D - Jul 24, 2024 - 8:21am
 
favorite love songs - thisbody - Jul 24, 2024 - 8:21am
 
Jam! (why should a song stop) - thisbody - Jul 24, 2024 - 7:49am
 
Song of the Day - thisbody - Jul 24, 2024 - 7:35am
 
What the hell OV? - oldviolin - Jul 24, 2024 - 7:04am
 
• • • The Once-a-Day • • •  - oldviolin - Jul 24, 2024 - 6:43am
 
Amazing animals! - thisbody - Jul 24, 2024 - 12:47am
 
Vinyl Only Spin List - kurtster - Jul 23, 2024 - 11:18pm
 
Kamala Harris - haresfur - Jul 23, 2024 - 8:38pm
 
Mixtape Culture Club - KurtfromLaQuinta - Jul 23, 2024 - 7:34pm
 
Musky Mythology - R_P - Jul 23, 2024 - 5:32pm
 
YouTube: Music-Videos - Antigone - Jul 23, 2024 - 3:28pm
 
Animal Resistance - R_P - Jul 23, 2024 - 1:54pm
 
Race in America - R_P - Jul 23, 2024 - 12:15pm
 
What Makes You Laugh? - geoff_morphini - Jul 23, 2024 - 11:42am
 
New Music - KurtfromLaQuinta - Jul 23, 2024 - 11:00am
 
Poetry Forum - Isabeau - Jul 23, 2024 - 8:18am
 
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Live Music - thisbody - Jul 22, 2024 - 4:29pm
 
July 2024 Photo Theme - Summer - fractalv - Jul 22, 2024 - 4:23pm
 
• • • What Makes You Happy? • • •  - thisbody - Jul 22, 2024 - 4:04pm
 
Kamala Harris - kurtster - Jul 22, 2024 - 4:02pm
 
Europe - thisbody - Jul 22, 2024 - 3:48pm
 
• • • BRING OUT YOUR DEAD • • •  - thisbody - Jul 22, 2024 - 3:05pm
 
Got my Goat - thisbody - Jul 22, 2024 - 3:02pm
 
Best wishes - thisbody - Jul 22, 2024 - 2:20pm
 
What makes you smile? - oldviolin - Jul 22, 2024 - 12:26pm
 
Jon Stewart interview - KurtfromLaQuinta - Jul 21, 2024 - 3:08pm
 
Acoustic Guitar - oldviolin - Jul 21, 2024 - 1:44pm
 
Gardeners Photos - KurtfromLaQuinta - Jul 21, 2024 - 7:39am
 
What Are You Going To Do Today? - KurtfromLaQuinta - Jul 21, 2024 - 7:36am
 
Bug Reports & Feature Requests - Johns2 - Jul 20, 2024 - 10:00pm
 
The Human Condition - oldviolin - Jul 20, 2024 - 7:44pm
 
Banksy! - R_P - Jul 20, 2024 - 5:16pm
 
Republican Party - thisbody - Jul 20, 2024 - 3:58pm
 
Project 2025 - Isabeau - Jul 20, 2024 - 11:45am
 
COVID-19 - Isabeau - Jul 20, 2024 - 6:40am
 
Gotta Get Your Drink On - Steely_D - Jul 19, 2024 - 8:42pm
 
The Republican Convention - Red_Dragon - Jul 19, 2024 - 6:37pm
 
Russia - R_P - Jul 19, 2024 - 2:49pm
 
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black321

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Posted: Jul 24, 2024 - 5:56pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

His general dismissal of women = self-immolation. One snarky political commentator says 3 weeks before Trump kicks him off the ticket. I didn't even get in on this frenzy.

edit: Jamie Raskin called him a right-wing shillbilly and that's gotta stick.


The casual voter is going to mostly look beyond things like this and the cat lady bit, and see his upbringing, military service, education…of course this is all somewhat superficial, but if we had an informed voter base we wouldn’t be where we are now. 


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Posted: Jul 24, 2024 - 3:59pm

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Like Biden is sharp as a tack and fit to serve ?
Oh burn!





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Posted: Jul 24, 2024 - 3:33pm

 black321 wrote:

his stance on abortion is probably his biggest strike.


His general dismissal of women = self-immolation. One snarky political commentator says 3 weeks before Trump kicks him off the ticket. I didn't even get in on this frenzy.

edit: Jamie Raskin called him a right-wing shillbilly and that's gotta stick.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2024 - 2:56pm

 rgio wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Yep.  The repubs have to get their act together on this.

Exactly what lies are you hoping they'll agree on?
 
Like Biden is sharp as a tack and fit to serve ?
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Posted: Jul 24, 2024 - 2:44pm

 kurtster wrote:

Yep.  The repubs have to get their act together on this.

Exactly what lies are you hoping they'll agree on?


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Posted: Jul 24, 2024 - 2:40pm

 black321 wrote:
 
his stance on abortion is probably his biggest strike.

 
Yep.  The repubs have to get their act together on this.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2024 - 1:55pm

 Proclivities wrote:

Of course it's early, and a lot of people don't know much about him yet, but so far his polling numbers are pretty bad.



not sure what those polls say, other than he's not "popular" or well known.
comments against trump could be construed by those in the middle as positive.
his stance on abortion is probably his biggest strike.

I'm not arguing for Vance and not even familiar with him myself...more so, that I think the dems can do better than Harris...and hope they ultimately do.


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Posted: Jul 24, 2024 - 1:38pm

 black321 wrote:


Hmm. Might be a tough sell for the middle who are more inclined to believe he pulled himself up, went to a good school, got a good job, and now…

Of course it's early, and a lot of people don't know much about him yet, but so far his polling numbers are pretty bad.

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Posted: Jul 24, 2024 - 1:37pm

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Admittedly based on limited information, I wonder whether Vance is going to come off as a personal fraud (an attack line already being voiced by Dems) to undecided voters. He says he is for the common man or woman and cites his personal history. However, relatively soon after graduating from law school, he chose to work as a venture capitalist. 

He has been recommended, hired by, invested with and supported by Peter Thiel every step of the way since leaving Yale (a home in CT for wayward children of "elites").

If he's an example of a "hard-working kid made good".... elites are about as real as unicorns and fairy dust.  I'm sure if you Google it...you'll see he wasn't very good at his jobs until "selling JD" became his profession.  Thiel has been his Godfather since before leaving Yale.

His story-telling skills are his superpower... not building, running, investing, fixing, or buying things.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2024 - 1:24pm

 steeler wrote:

Admittedly based on limited information, I wonder whether Vance is going to come off as a personal fraud (an attack line already being voiced by Dems) to undecided voters. He says he is for the common man or woman and cites his personal history. However, relatively soon after graduating from law school, he chose to work as a venture capitalist. 




Hmm. Might be a tough sell for the middle who are more inclined to believe he pulled himself up, went to a good school, got a good job, and now…
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Posted: Jul 24, 2024 - 12:08pm

 black321 wrote:

2 cents.
Accurate or not, but in the eye of the general public, the "casual voter" or those who may be willing to forgive the sins of the past, regardless of how bad, because this one just sounds better...the dems appear to be serving up an easy target for the GOP. Someone whose ability to grab the interest of the uncommitted voter, or whose general likeability (regardless of skill or capabilities)  is suspect...whereas Vance appears more likeable to the general population.

Maybe Obama still has something/one to serve up?


Admittedly based on limited information, I wonder whether Vance is going to come off as a personal fraud (an attack line already being voiced by Dems) to undecided voters. He says he is for the common man or woman and cites his personal history. However, relatively soon after graduating from law school, he chose to work as a venture capitalist. 


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Posted: Jul 24, 2024 - 11:49am

2 cents.
Accurate or not, but in the eye of the general public, the "casual voter" or those who may be willing to forgive the sins of the past, regardless of how bad, because this one just sounds better...the dems appear to be serving up an easy target for the GOP. Someone whose ability to grab the interest of the uncommitted voter, or whose general likeability (regardless of skill or capabilities)  is suspect...whereas Vance appears more likeable to the general population.

Maybe Obama still has something/one to serve up?

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Posted: Jul 23, 2024 - 4:11pm

 Steely_D wrote:

I’m 100% certain that she - like all politicians - have done things that I don’t like, don’t agree with, etc.
But it really comes down to whoever vs Trump. And the failed real estate salesman has such a list of failures and broken promises and violence that it really doesn’t matter. There is no contest here about whom to vote for if he’s the GOP anointed. And it definitely says a lot about that party that he can usurp its direction.



+1
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Posted: Jul 23, 2024 - 3:45pm

 Steely_D wrote:

I’m 100% certain that she - like all politicians - have done things that I don’t like, don’t agree with, etc.
But it really comes down to whoever vs Trump. And the failed real estate salesman has such a list of failures and broken promises and violence that it really doesn’t matter. There is no contest here about whom to vote for if he’s the GOP anointed. And it definitely says a lot about that party that he can usurp its direction.





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Posted: Jul 23, 2024 - 12:37pm

The First Silicon Valley Election
California Über Alles
With Biden out and Kamala likely in, the Californiazation of the 2024 election looks almost complete. Silicon Valley’s embrace of Trump, along with the selection of Peter Thiel-backed JD Vance as his running mate, already signaled that the home of Big Tech (and “little tech”, but we’ll get to that later) would play a much bigger role in this election than it ever had. Immediately after a bullet grazed Trump’s ear in Butler, Elon Musk took to “X” to endorse him. (Musk has also reportedly been showering the Trump campaign with $45 million in donations per month.) A few days after the assassination attempt, Mark Zuckerberg described Trump’s fist pumping, telegenic “fight, fight, fight” as “one of the most badass things” he’d ever seen. Co-founders of the Silicon Valley venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz, spoke about their support for Trump on the presidential election episode of their podcast. Venture capitalist Chamath Palihapitiya, who was a Biden donor during the 2020 election, has recently started hosting fundraisers for Trump; he was also reportedly among those who backed Vance as a candidate for VP. Other big name entrepreneurs like David Sacks are open Trump supporters. But Kamala, who was born in Oakland, is not without her own connections to Silicon Valley. Her brother-in-law, Tony West, is Uber’s chief legal officer.
Pick your fighter oligarch...

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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 11:15am

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:
No hate here.
I think I've made my points known for quite awhile. I don't hate anyone.
Just because I've seen what she's done in the last quite a few years now... makes me a hater?
I lived in California all my life. Real close to 70 years now. And her record is what you could call weak.
Look it up.

I’m 100% certain that she - like all politicians - have done things that I don’t like, don’t agree with, etc.
But it really comes down to whoever vs Trump. And the failed real estate salesman has such a list of failures and broken promises and violence that it really doesn’t matter. There is no contest here about whom to vote for if he’s the GOP anointed. And it definitely says a lot about that party that he can usurp its direction.

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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 10:29am

 haresfur wrote:


I stand corrected. Sorry. I don't understand your dislike for her politics. Or maybe for her record.
Dig... not necessary to go deep here... into her a little bit.


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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 8:18am

 sirdroseph wrote:




Over there, dude! Had a laugh..!
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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 8:06am

 sirdroseph wrote:

He's Gilbert Gottfried-annoying but dude can meme.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 4:49am


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