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Posted: Apr 30, 2020 - 5:08am

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Posted: Apr 1, 2020 - 12:35pm

It was a bit different went Krakauer climbed. There were plenty on that climb, however, one of the first with so many supplied with tanks which had become rentable and packaged with the help of sherpas. Into Thin Air was a page turner for me, but I've always been obsessed with Everest. I've battled some difficult summits in my life, doing the best with what God gave me, but Baldy, Timpangnogos and a couple other peaks are happily in memory. Today's body is lucky she gets up/down her steep stairs carrying heavy loads. I'm grateful.

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 davidharper wrote:
for some very interesting reading on wikipedia look up the "Dyatlov Pass incident"
 

Pretty odd, but 1959, 9 people in one tent at -30°F tells me that they couldn't keep warm, even in the tent in sleeping bags. That's too big a space, if it's a traditional tent shape, for body heat to warm. It's likely most of them had gone to bed fully clothed, but as noted, paradoxical undressing happens. People freezing to death get a sensation of overheating and start shedding clothes. All other unexplained events are explained by the terrifying disorientation and desperation victims go through.
 
I read about that paradoxical undressing in David Krakauer's piece in Outside Magazine on the numerous deaths during a huge storm on Mount Everest back in May '96. I think that piece got turned into the book "Into Thin Air." From what I remember hypothermic people can experience a surge of internal temperature as the body desperately tries to fight off imminent death. People in that reduced state don't think clearly and start stripping. 

The crazy thing is that a lot of the deaths occurred because there was a goddamned traffic jam of multiple expeditions near the summit. And yet I saw a picture taken late last  year or this year showing a longlong queue of people waiting to reach the summit. It looked like a line to get into the latest summer blockbuster. 
 


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Posted: Apr 1, 2020 - 11:44am



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 davidharper wrote:
for some very interesting reading on wikipedia look up the "Dyatlov Pass incident"
 

Pretty odd, but 1959, 9 people in one tent at -30°F tells me that they couldn't keep warm, even in the tent in sleeping bags. That's too big a space, if it's a traditional tent shape, for body heat to warm. It's likely most of them had gone to bed fully clothed, but as noted, paradoxical undressing happens. People freezing to death get a sensation of overheating and start shedding clothes. All other unexplained events are explained by the terrifying disorientation and desperation victims go through.
 
I read about that paradoxical undressing in David Krakauer's piece in Outside Magazine on the numerous deaths during a huge storm on Mount Everest back in May '96. I think that piece got turned into the book "Into Thin Air." From what I remember hypothermic people can experience a surge of internal temperature as the body desperately tries to fight off imminent death. People in that reduced state don't think clearly and start stripping. 

The crazy thing is that a lot of the deaths occurred because there was a goddamned traffic jam of multiple expeditions near the summit. And yet I saw a picture taken late last  year or this year showing a longlong queue of people waiting to reach the summit. It looked like a line to get into the latest summer blockbuster. 
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Posted: Apr 1, 2020 - 7:23am



 davidharper wrote:
for some very interesting reading on wikipedia look up the "Dyatlov Pass incident"
 

Pretty odd, but 1959, 9 people in one tent at -30°F tells me that they couldn't keep warm, even in the tent in sleeping bags. That's too big a space, if it's a traditional tent shape, for body heat to warm. It's likely most of them had gone to bed fully clothed, but as noted, paradoxical undressing happens. People freezing to death get a sensation of overheating and start shedding clothes. All other unexplained events are explained by the terrifying disorientation and desperation victims go through.
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Posted: Apr 1, 2020 - 6:25am

for some very interesting reading on wikipedia look up the "Dyatlov Pass incident"