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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 9:14am



 Southern_Boy wrote:
My brother-in-law - a New Jersey police officer - is in the hospital on a respirator with Corona related pneumonia. He's in his 40s. 
 


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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 8:56am



 Proclivities wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:

... The other question left unanswered is why has China been gathering data & researching  coronaviruses in the first place?
 

Isn't that what epidemiologists do?  Chinese scientists have been researching all sorts of viruses for years (e.g. SARS outbreak - 2002), as have WHO and CDC, as well as countless universities and pharmaceutical companies all over the world.  Whether or not a government is trying to weaponize that research is another matter.
 

There is no need for nefarious deeds beyond just the usual refusal to abstain from eating things that will kill us and the cultural fascination with exotic boner pills. I just got this from the library:
 

miamizsun

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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 8:10am

brooks brothers to make/sew 150k masks a day?

nice!
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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 8:03am



 KarmaKarma wrote:

... The other question left unanswered is why has China been gathering data & researching  coronaviruses in the first place?
 

Isn't that what epidemiologists do?  Chinese scientists have been researching all sorts of viruses for years (e.g. SARS outbreak - 2002), as have WHO and CDC, as well as countless universities and pharmaceutical companies all over the world.  Whether or not a government is trying to weaponize that research is another matter.
rgio

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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 8:01am



 Southern_Boy wrote:
My brother-in-law - a New Jersey police officer - is in the hospital on a respirator with Corona related pneumonia. He's in his 40s. 
 
It's not as advertised regarding younger, healthy adults.  My 39 year-old cousin, mother of 2, generally very healthy had been dealing with shortness of breath for over a week was turned away the other day from a testing site...didn't meet CDC guidelines they said.  A friend of hers from high school (male, same age, healthy) was told by his doctor not to waste his time in line...they wouldn't test him.

"anybody who wants a test can get one...and the tests are beautiful" - March 6

Now...as she (thankfully...we assume) recovers, she doesn't know if she had it.  The test is no longer valid, so she needs the antibody test.  These issues aren't being addressed fast enough for anyone to believe it'll be "under control" soon.  

When people in the eye of the storm (NYC) stand side by side to see the arrival of a hospital ship, while others can't even be tested across that same body of water, we're in serious trouble.
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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 7:54am

 cc_rider wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
If it weren't for Trump, these people wouldn't be doing this{#Rolleyes}:  Bet a lot of these people have PHDs, Masters and read all of the scientific journals but they seem to lack something. Oh yea it is that pesky common sense.
 
  
 
 Pictures like this tell me the situation is going to get much, much worse. The one thing experts tell us can help stop slow this thing, but people just ignore it.

Worse, every press confab seems to have lots of people standing around in close proximity. If our leaders* can't be bothered to follow the rules, it kind of undermines the message, no?
c.
 
My point is if you lack the critical thinking skills to figure this out and have to rely on our leaders to tell or show you what to do, so be it.  I certainly can't help you. I have never taken much stock in what our leaders say or do, I certainly do not intend on doing this now.  Edit:  This is the generic "you" not you personally.
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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 7:37am



 sirdroseph wrote:
If it weren't for Trump, these people wouldn't be doing this
{#Rolleyes}
:  Bet a lot of these people have PHDs, Masters and read all of the scientific journals but they seem to lack something. Oh yea it is that pesky common sense.
 
  
 Pictures like this tell me the situation is going to get much, much worse. The one thing experts tell us can help stop slow this thing, but people just ignore it.

Worse, every press confab seems to have lots of people standing around in close proximity. If our leaders* can't be bothered to follow the rules, it kind of undermines the message, no?
c.


NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 7:31am

 Southern_Boy wrote:
My brother-in-law - a New Jersey police officer - is in the hospital on a respirator with Corona related pneumonia. He's in his 40s. 
 
gulp.. {#Good-vibes}  
Southern_Boy

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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 7:28am

My brother-in-law - a New Jersey police officer - is in the hospital on a respirator with Corona related pneumonia. He's in his 40s. 
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 7:18am

 KarmaKarma wrote:
Reading that report, it sounds plausible that the researcher, or an assistant, were bitten or otherwise infected in the level 2 lab & eventually became contagious.  From that point, at least one visited the wet market and infected others there.  That would be the working hypothesis presented.  So - not deliberate, not a government action, but not really an unavoidable accident either.  A level 4 lab has the highest of precautions and standards.  A level 2 lab does not.  This work should have been conducted in a level 4 lab.  So - sloppy & incompetent.  The other question left unanswered is why has China been gathering data & researching  coronaviruses in the first place?
 
Well, given what has just happened, isn't that f-ing obvious?  (Excuse my French) And they weren't the only ones researching it. Check this out from 2015.
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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 7:15am

For anyone who wants/needs to see what's going on in their state with regard to legislation and funding related to Coronavirus...

Legislative Response to Covid-19

FYI - there is a toggle at the top to go between $ and legislation.
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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 7:14am



 kurtster wrote:

I thought it was pretty much down to a lab worker was pinching dead infected testing bats from the lab and selling them in the local "wet" market,"thinking" that there was no risk to humans by eating them.  The bats are a delicacy there and fetch some bucks.

It was the first thing I heard about the source, the "wet" market, way back very early on.  Cross contamination with other feral animals in unsanitary conditions.  Then you never heard about it again.  Evidently just acknowledging that this kind of market still exists was an embarrassment to the Chinese government.  More often than not in stories too weird to be true, the first reports are trueist, then the cover up begins.  Feel free to call me crazy, but it's my story and I'm sticking to it ... 
{#Wink}
 

Reading that report, it sounds plausible that the researcher, or an assistant, were bitten or otherwise infected in the level 2 lab & eventually became contagious.  From that point, at least one visited the wet market and infected others there.  That would be the working hypothesis presented.  So - not deliberate, not a government action, but not really an unavoidable accident either.  A level 4 lab has the highest of precautions and standards.  A level 2 lab does not.  This work should have been conducted in a level 4 lab.  So - sloppy & incompetent.  The other question left unanswered is why has China been gathering data & researching  coronaviruses in the first place?
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 6:57am

Interview with experts (including Lipsitch - again!!  busy man) about whether the virus will be seasonal or not (among other things)

Lipsitch: If our strategy is to use social distancing as our main control measure because we haven’t figured out anything better, then the best way to do it is to distance until we bring cases down to low enough levels that we can let transmission resume by relaxing social distancing, and have several weeks or months where we don’t overwhelm the healthcare system.

And then we distance again, and repeat the cycle. With each cycle, we’ll get more time off social distancing, because the buildup of immunity in the population helps to slow the spread. So you don’t get to the dangerous peak as quickly.

That [scenario] will be destructive to the economy, to education, and all sorts of things. But as a means of trying to preserve the healthcare system, if we don’t have another approach, it may be our best option.

I want to be clear: as an epidemiologist, I’m saying what I think existing tools make possible for the purposes of disease control, and not what I think is socially desirable. Multiple rounds of social distancing are not something I look forward to

 
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 6:47am

lyteroptes wrote:
Not sure about your poster Bill - the one that says it's OK not to be at your most productive in this crisis.  I work on a clinical records system (in the NHS in England) and the work is intense.  There will be very many others like me.  The music does help me work though.
 
Well, I guess it doesn't work for you so well!!  Keep up the good work! {#Clap}
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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 4:08am

Not sure about your poster Bill - the one that says it's OK not to be at your most productive in this crisis.  I work on a clinical records system (in the NHS in England) and the work is intense.  There will be very many others like me.  The music does help me work though.
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Posted: Mar 31, 2020 - 2:42am

If it weren't for Trump, these people wouldn't be doing this{#Rolleyes}:  Bet a lot of these people have PHDs, Masters and read all of the scientific journals but they seem to lack something. Oh yea it is that pesky common sense.
 
 
 
R_P

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Posted: Mar 30, 2020 - 11:17pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:
Chinese researchers isolated deadly bat coronaviruses near Wuhan animal market
 Prof. Fake News wrote:
And if you really think the media who incessantly report info from claimed anonymous sources are also straight dealing and not lying to you, or plain making shit up ... you might be a kook too.
Article
U.S. concerns

A State Department official said the reports about Mr. Tian and his role in working with bat viruses are concerning.

“He lives and works at Wuhan’s CDC, a few hundred yards away from the Huanan wet market,” the official said. “He is among the small team in Wuhan that has contributed to China’s obsession in recent years with virus hunting and research.”
Chinese government researchers isolated more than 2,000 animal viruses, including deadly bat coronaviruses, and carried out scientific work on them just three miles from a wild animal market.

The seven-minute film boasts that China has “taken the lead” in global virus research and uncovered over 2,000 viruses in the past 12 years, the time since the outbreak of the bat-origin virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS).


kurtster

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Posted: Mar 30, 2020 - 10:13pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:


“China claims that the deadly virus did not escape from its biolab,” Mr. Mosher said. “Fine. Prove it by releasing the research records of the Wuhan lab.”
 
I thought it was pretty much down to a lab worker was pinching dead infected testing bats from the lab and selling them in the local "wet" market,"thinking" that there was no risk to humans by eating them.  The bats are a delicacy there and fetch some bucks.

It was the first thing I heard about the source, the "wet" market, way back very early on.  Cross contamination with other feral animals in unsanitary conditions.  Then you never heard about it again.  Evidently just acknowledging that this kind of market still exists was an embarrassment to the Chinese government.  More often than not in stories too weird to be true, the first reports are trueist, then the cover up begins.  Feel free to call me crazy, but it's my story and I'm sticking to it ... {#Wink}
KarmaKarma

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Posted: Mar 30, 2020 - 10:04pm

Chinese researchers isolated deadly bat coronaviruses near Wuhan animal market

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/china-researchers-isolated-bat-coronaviruses-near-/


But Steven W. Mosher, a China specialist with the Population Research Institute, said China for years has been doing research, detailed in scientific journals, on horseshoe bat coronaviruses that could be harmful to humans.

“They write about collecting SARS-like coronaviruses from horseshoe bats and proving that, like the SARS virus itself, some of these other naturally occurring coronaviruses could infect human beings directly,” Mr. Mosher said. “They write about genetically engineering new and deadly viruses capable of infecting human lung tissue — just like the Wuhan flu does.”

Mr. Mosher called the Chinese government to disclose the research to help health officials cope with the coronavirus pandemic.

“China claims that the deadly virus did not escape from its biolab,” Mr. Mosher said. “Fine. Prove it by releasing the research records of the Wuhan lab.”
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Posted: Mar 30, 2020 - 8:40pm

Total Recovered
165,837

I have 2 more albums to rip tonight that will take about 6 more hours ...
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