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jarro

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Posted: Jun 28, 2019 - 10:17am

I'm not familliar with BubbleUpup  but it looks like it is a proxy  for media servers.   Don't see how that can fit into the mix.   
Unless it can work like a screen sharing app and can cast the audio out.   ( not ideal as things are usually recompressed,  and the Android device needs to stay 'running'  )

Normally you would just use your phone/tablet  to cast to the  to the Onkyo.   Once it starts playing,  you should be able to  skip  using the android or  stereo remote.

Looking at reviews on Amazon that model supports chromecast but some people seem to have issues.   
The usual rebooting everything including router can help if they have trouble  connecting.






 rhogg4983 wrote:
Hi
I have successfully downloaded and installed the test version of RP.

When in the test version do I configure it to offer sound the to Chromecast (BubbleuPup) so it can be sent to the Onkyo TX-NR646?

 jarro wrote:

That's the correct page,  It should be right  below, the developer contact info  "Join the Beta" .   It  looks like it's moved  so more mid screen now.
Alternatively there is a direct download,  if it's  completely  missing for some reason.      https://radioparadise.com/listen/android/downloads   ( test version )




 rhogg4983 wrote:
The beta link is certainly hidden, I can't find it. Am I meant to stab all over the bottom of the screen till a secret button appears or something?

My intention was never to find a way to circumvent the RP app in any way but to intercept the output to send to a different render-er. I will have a search around, there maybe an app that already exists to intercept the sound going to the phones speaker.

I have BubbleuPnp installed on my phone. That is meant to handle and provide all of the Chromecast functionality. So if you can show me how to get the beta app I might be able to test this out.

Just to be sure I have the right app, it is by Cratorsoft. Here is a screen shot of the bottom of the page as I see it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tumg...


 


 


rhogg4983



Posted: Jun 26, 2019 - 1:47am

Hi
I have successfully downloaded and installed the test version of RP.

When in the test version do I configure it to offer sound the to Chromecast (BubbleuPup) so it can be sent to the Onkyo TX-NR646?

 jarro wrote:

That's the correct page,  It should be right  below, the developer contact info  "Join the Beta" .   It  looks like it's moved  so more mid screen now.
Alternatively there is a direct download,  if it's  completely  missing for some reason.      https://radioparadise.com/listen/android/downloads   ( test version )




 rhogg4983 wrote:
The beta link is certainly hidden, I can't find it. Am I meant to stab all over the bottom of the screen till a secret button appears or something?

My intention was never to find a way to circumvent the RP app in any way but to intercept the output to send to a different render-er. I will have a search around, there maybe an app that already exists to intercept the sound going to the phones speaker.

I have BubbleuPnp installed on my phone. That is meant to handle and provide all of the Chromecast functionality. So if you can show me how to get the beta app I might be able to test this out.

Just to be sure I have the right app, it is by Cratorsoft. Here is a screen shot of the bottom of the page as I see it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tumg...


 


jarro

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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 12:50pm


That's the correct page,  It should be right  below, the developer contact info  "Join the Beta" .   It  looks like it's moved  so more mid screen now.
Alternatively there is a direct download,  if it's  completely  missing for some reason.      https://radioparadise.com/listen/android/downloads   ( test version )




 rhogg4983 wrote:
The beta link is certainly hidden, I can't find it. Am I meant to stab all over the bottom of the screen till a secret button appears or something?

My intention was never to find a way to circumvent the RP app in any way but to intercept the output to send to a different render-er. I will have a search around, there maybe an app that already exists to intercept the sound going to the phones speaker.

I have BubbleuPnp installed on my phone. That is meant to handle and provide all of the Chromecast functionality. So if you can show me how to get the beta app I might be able to test this out.

Just to be sure I have the right app, it is by Cratorsoft. Here is a screen shot of the bottom of the page as I see it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tumg...


rhogg4983



Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 7:42am

The beta link is certainly hidden, I can't find it. Am I meant to stab all over the bottom of the screen till a secret button appears or something?

My intention was never to find a way to circumvent the RP app in any way but to intercept the output to send to a different render-er. I will have a search around, there maybe an app that already exists to intercept the sound going to the phones speaker.

I have BubbleuPnp installed on my phone. That is meant to handle and provide all of the Chromecast functionality. So if you can show me how to get the beta app I might be able to test this out.

Just to be sure I have the right app, it is by Cratorsoft. Here is a screen shot of the bottom of the page as I see it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tumg...


 jarro wrote:


The beta link is hidden near the bottom of the page on the play store.   
Was just a suggestion as it's  likely the only option that would  let you skip from the Onkyo remote.
Might be something on the Apple side,  but I'm not sure.

Other options would be using audio out on a cheap tablet. 
Android lets you connect your own dac so there are some pretty cool options that way.    

Bluetooth is pretty good now  too if both devices support aptx

Regarding dlna,  currently the cached data is encrypted to prevent that type of random access.
   ( might be something that can be supported depending on the capabilites of the dlna solutions available.    Not something that would be available anytime soon though.   )

There's also smart speakers with audio out that can take voice commands for skip...  but  I definitely wouldn't consider that privacy friendly.


 rhogg4983 wrote:

I would like to join the beta but I can't find it in the Google Play Store. I have uninstalled the RP app and GPS only gives one option when installing the app. Is there somewhere I can download the beta app to side load it?

Thanks
Rob.
EDIT
I have looked more into this Chromecast thingy and I don't like it one bit. I will not give out my location to Google Home and I have read various reports on the security or should I say lack of security the app does to my WifFi network.

So I will not be going down that route. What's wrong with DLNA anyway?
 jarro wrote:

No nothing like that is currently available.   Also I think there might be some  legal issues with allowing  that kind of control over the cached data.

For android best option would be to try the chromecast feature.

https://www.intl.onkyo.com/whats_new/2017_0401.html

If that's an option can enable it in the Android app by joining the beta.

Can do that from the radio paradise page in the play store.   Option is near the bottom,   usually takes around an hour for the update to be available.




 rhogg4983 wrote:
Is there a way to play the RP Android app out via DLNA so I can hear it on my Onkyo sound system? I have successfully down streamed podcasts off the BBC and am able to play them with BubblePnP with the renderer being the Onkyo box.

I am not talking about just using the url to stream, Onkyo can do that perfectly fine. What I am talking about is the RP Android App can buffer hours of stream. It's that buffered stream I would like to control, ie. skipping forward and back while playing out through my Onkyo.
 


 


 


 


jarro

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Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 7:25am



The beta link is hidden near the bottom of the page on the play store.   
Was just a suggestion as it's  likely the only option that would  let you skip from the Onkyo remote.
Might be something on the Apple side,  but I'm not sure.

Other options would be using audio out on a cheap tablet. 
Android lets you connect your own dac so there are some pretty cool options that way.    

Bluetooth is pretty good now  too if both devices support aptx

Regarding dlna,  currently the cached data is encrypted to prevent that type of random access.
   ( might be something that can be supported depending on the capabilites of the dlna solutions available.    Not something that would be available anytime soon though.   )

There's also smart speakers with audio out that can take voice commands for skip...  but  I definitely wouldn't consider that privacy friendly.


 rhogg4983 wrote:

I would like to join the beta but I can't find it in the Google Play Store. I have uninstalled the RP app and GPS only gives one option when installing the app. Is there somewhere I can download the beta app to side load it?

Thanks
Rob.
EDIT
I have looked more into this Chromecast thingy and I don't like it one bit. I will not give out my location to Google Home and I have read various reports on the security or should I say lack of security the app does to my WifFi network.

So I will not be going down that route. What's wrong with DLNA anyway?
 jarro wrote:

No nothing like that is currently available.   Also I think there might be some  legal issues with allowing  that kind of control over the cached data.

For android best option would be to try the chromecast feature.

https://www.intl.onkyo.com/whats_new/2017_0401.html

If that's an option can enable it in the Android app by joining the beta.

Can do that from the radio paradise page in the play store.   Option is near the bottom,   usually takes around an hour for the update to be available.




 rhogg4983 wrote:
Is there a way to play the RP Android app out via DLNA so I can hear it on my Onkyo sound system? I have successfully down streamed podcasts off the BBC and am able to play them with BubblePnP with the renderer being the Onkyo box.

I am not talking about just using the url to stream, Onkyo can do that perfectly fine. What I am talking about is the RP Android App can buffer hours of stream. It's that buffered stream I would like to control, ie. skipping forward and back while playing out through my Onkyo.
 


 


 


rhogg4983



Posted: Jun 25, 2019 - 3:06am


I would like to join the beta but I can't find it in the Google Play Store. I have uninstalled the RP app and GPS only gives one option when installing the app. Is there somewhere I can download the beta app to side load it?

Thanks
Rob.
EDIT
I have looked more into this Chromecast thingy and I don't like it one bit. I will not give out my location to Google Home and I have read various reports on the security or should I say lack of security the app does to my WifFi network.

So I will not be going down that route. What's wrong with DLNA anyway?
 jarro wrote:

No nothing like that is currently available.   Also I think there might be some  legal issues with allowing  that kind of control over the cached data.

For android best option would be to try the chromecast feature.

https://www.intl.onkyo.com/whats_new/2017_0401.html

If that's an option can enable it in the Android app by joining the beta.

Can do that from the radio paradise page in the play store.   Option is near the bottom,   usually takes around an hour for the update to be available.




 rhogg4983 wrote:
Is there a way to play the RP Android app out via DLNA so I can hear it on my Onkyo sound system? I have successfully down streamed podcasts off the BBC and am able to play them with BubblePnP with the renderer being the Onkyo box.

I am not talking about just using the url to stream, Onkyo can do that perfectly fine. What I am talking about is the RP Android App can buffer hours of stream. It's that buffered stream I would like to control, ie. skipping forward and back while playing out through my Onkyo.
 


 


jarro

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Posted: Jun 24, 2019 - 12:09pm


No nothing like that is currently available.   Also I think there might be some  legal issues with allowing  that kind of control over the cached data.

For android best option would be to try the chromecast feature.

https://www.intl.onkyo.com/whats_new/2017_0401.html

If that's an option can enable it in the Android app by joining the beta.

Can do that from the radio paradise page in the play store.   Option is near the bottom,   usually takes around an hour for the update to be available.




 rhogg4983 wrote:
Is there a way to play the RP Android app out via DLNA so I can hear it on my Onkyo sound system? I have successfully down streamed podcasts off the BBC and am able to play them with BubblePnP with the renderer being the Onkyo box.

I am not talking about just using the url to stream, Onkyo can do that perfectly fine. What I am talking about is the RP Android App can buffer hours of stream. It's that buffered stream I would like to control, ie. skipping forward and back while playing out through my Onkyo.
 


rhogg4983



Posted: Jun 24, 2019 - 2:32am

Is there a way to play the RP Android app out via DLNA so I can hear it on my Onkyo sound system? I have successfully down streamed podcasts off the BBC and am able to play them with BubblePnP with the renderer being the Onkyo box.

I am not talking about just using the url to stream, Onkyo can do that perfectly fine. What I am talking about is the RP Android App can buffer hours of stream. It's that buffered stream I would like to control, ie. skipping forward and back while playing out through my Onkyo.