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Posted: May 24, 2019 - 6:55am



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I am good with Space Oddity but not Heroes, but then again I have never liked Heroes so really it is all subjective anyway as is everything.  I suppose the more accurate line would be Songs that we never tire of regardless of ubiquity emphasis being on the "we" cause we are all different as we are the same.
 
Yeah, it's one thing if you like the song or think it's a good song, but another if you still like listening to it after hearing it so many times - which seems to be the point of this thread.  If you don't really care for a song, it doesn't really make much difference whether it's overplayed or not.

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Posted: May 24, 2019 - 6:40am

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For unknown reasons I rarely tire of hearing "Space Oddity" or "Heroes" by Bowie; some of his other ubiquitous tunes I could do without, but those two always work.

 
I am good with Space Oddity but not Heroes, but then again I have never liked Heroes so really it is all subjective anyway as is everything.  I suppose the more accurate line would be Songs that we never tire of regardless of ubiquity emphasis being on the "we" cause we are all different as we are the same.
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Posted: May 24, 2019 - 6:22am

For unknown reasons I rarely tire of hearing "Space Oddity" or "Heroes" by Bowie; some of his other ubiquitous tunes I could do without, but those two always work.
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Posted: May 23, 2019 - 10:44am

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When this came out, I hated it.  Then I was literally forced to listen to the album (Faith) and begrudgingly appreciated that the dude could sing and that some of the songs were pretty good.   This song (and video) are a literal time capsule to the period.  As for the song, the piano and bassline make it really hard to dismiss. The layers of this song make it incredibly catchy.   I never much liked his songs when released, but in retrospect, he is one of the great male voices in my lifetime.  

 
Completely agree about Michael.  Because of his poppiness and genre and possibly other personal problems he gets short shriff in his talent and songwriting ability.   Along those lines, this is such a beautiful if not ubiquitous underrated Michael tune:

 


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Posted: May 23, 2019 - 10:30am



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I'd agree with you about PG if it weren't for this. To this day, I hear jokes or cultural references about it. I never mention the song to anyone without them knowing it. But I'll give it to you that whatever gets played on RP a lot that was at some point played on mainstream radio seems ubiquitous to me. 

As for the Beatles, Let it Be and All You Need is Love are the only songs on that list that would qualify for me - there are at least a dozen other songs by them I think are way better... ie, for me, most of them have not overcome their ubiquity. 

Respect by Aretha and Superstition by Stevie are two others I'd throw in the pile. When I think about overcoming ubiquity, I think about the power a song can have to catch you up in it no matter how sick you may have been of it at some point. And I must say Bill seems to be pretty good at cherry picking the well-worn. 
 
In Your Eyes ubiquity is due in a large part to that scene, yet the song is (to me) just so good that holds up in spite of its association to the movie.

I don't listen to the Beatles much, but you have to acknowledge that they are the Ubiquity Champs!   It's crazy to think they are almost 50 years from working together.   It will be interesting to see if they are still everywhere in 20 more years, but their run to date is amazing.  Sinatra and Elvis seem to be fading away.....so maybe the Beatles will as well. 

Agree with Aretha and Stevie.  I'll go out on a limb in this discussion, and suggest the following.....

When this came out, I hated it.  Then I was literally forced to listen to the album (Faith) and begrudgingly appreciated that the dude could sing and that some of the songs were pretty good.   This song (and video) are a literal time capsule to the period.  As for the song, the piano and bassline make it really hard to dismiss. The layers of this song make it incredibly catchy.   I never much liked his songs when released, but in retrospect, he is one of the great male voices in my lifetime.  
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Posted: May 23, 2019 - 9:41am



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PG had a few potentials, but I think Sledgehammer and Shock the Monkey aren't "so good", and Solsbury Hill and Games Without Frontiers fail the ubiquitous hurdle.  Solsbury I could argue....but it's not In Your Eyes....and I struggle to think any act could have more than one of these unless you are the Beatles.  That said....

I found a list of the most played Beatles songs....and I would argue they all could fit this category.
  1. Hey Jude 
  2. I Want to Hold Your Hand 
  3. All You Need Is Love 
  4. Eleanor Rigby 
  5. Get Back
  6. Let It Be 
  7. Paperback Writer 
  8. Penny Lane 
  9. Ticket to Ride 
  10. We Can Work It Out
  11. Can’t Buy Me Love
A day in the life, Yellow Submarine, Hello, Goodbye.....c'mon, it's a just silly when you think about it in these terms.

 

I'd agree with you about PG if it weren't for this. To this day, I hear jokes or cultural references about it. I never mention the song to anyone without them knowing it. But I'll give it to you that whatever gets played on RP a lot that was at some point played on mainstream radio seems ubiquitous to me. 

As for the Beatles, Let it Be and All You Need is Love are the only songs on that list that would qualify for me - there are at least a dozen other songs by them I think are way better... ie, for me, most of them have not overcome their ubiquity. 

Respect by Aretha and Superstition by Stevie are two others I'd throw in the pile. When I think about overcoming ubiquity, I think about the power a song can have to catch you up in it no matter how sick you may have been of it at some point. And I must say Bill seems to be pretty good at cherry picking the well-worn. 
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Posted: May 23, 2019 - 9:25am



 rgio wrote:
 
By definition, I don't believe Genesis (arguably my favorite band growing up) ever had a ubiquitous moment, and if they did, it came after PG left the band.  The only song that I might consider for "so good" would be Follow You, Follow Me, but so good.... I'm not sure.

PG had a few potentials, but I think Sledgehammer and Shock the Monkey aren't "so good", and Solsbury Hill and Games Without Frontiers fail the ubiquitous hurdle.  Solsbury I could argue....but it's not In Your Eyes....and I struggle to think any act could have more than one of these unless you are the Beatles.  That said....

I found a list of the most played Beatles songs....and I would argue they all could fit this category.
  1. Hey Jude 
  2. I Want to Hold Your Hand 
  3. All You Need Is Love 
  4. Eleanor Rigby 
  5. Get Back
  6. Let It Be 
  7. Paperback Writer 
  8. Penny Lane 
  9. Ticket to Ride 
  10. We Can Work It Out
  11. Can’t Buy Me Love
A day in the life, Yellow Submarine, Hello, Goodbye.....c'mon, it's a just silly when you think about it in these terms.

 
  Most of those particular Beatles songs I could do without hearing very much, especially the first six.  I generally don't like much of their ubiquitous songs from pre-1966 (well, except for "If I Fell").  "A Day in the Life" fits this thread description for me as does "Hello, Goodbye", but the latter doesn't seem like an especially overplayed song, (though Lennon didn't care for that song).  I don't hear "Paperback Writer" or "Penny Lane" very often, but I guess they are played somewhere frequently.  I didn't even really like "Yellow Submarine" since I was a kid.
  I think a lot of this depends on what mood one is in at a particular time, but still, as pointed out in the first post: such songs are very, very rare.
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Posted: May 23, 2019 - 9:11am

 rgio wrote:


 

I found a list of the most played Beatles songs....and I would argue they all could fit this category.
  1. Hey Jude 
  2. I Want to Hold Your Hand 
  3. All You Need Is Love 
  4. Eleanor Rigby 
  5. Get Back
  6. Let It Be 
  7. Paperback Writer 
  8. Penny Lane 
  9. Ticket to Ride 
  10. We Can Work It Out
  11. Can’t Buy Me Love
A day in the life, Yellow Submarine, Hello, Goodbye.....c'mon, it's a just silly when you think about it in these terms.
  And that is the perfect illustration on what makes Beatles so special.  If I were to think of my favorite which of course are all ubiquitous, it would be at least 7 or 8 different tunes.  Simply amazing.


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Posted: May 23, 2019 - 8:58am



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 rgio wrote:

Especially fond of the Secret World Live tour with Paula Cole, but the Youssou N'Dour original is tough to beat. 
 
I was thinking of that one, too. Bill definitely plays it quite a lot and I never tire of it. I also thought about Mercy Street, Solsbury Hill and Genesis' Carpet Crawlers. Though I don't think Crawlers really qualifies for ubiquity - I've never heard it anywhere but on my CD player and RP. 

I saw both PG tours... I'm a huge Youssou N'Dour fan. Gonna see him soon for the umpteenth time. 

 
By definition, I don't believe Genesis (arguably my favorite band growing up) ever had a ubiquitous moment, and if they did, it came after PG left the band.  The only song that I might consider for "so good" would be Follow You, Follow Me, but so good.... I'm not sure.

PG had a few potentials, but I think Sledgehammer and Shock the Monkey aren't "so good", and Solsbury Hill and Games Without Frontiers fail the ubiquitous hurdle.  Solsbury I could argue....but it's not In Your Eyes....and I struggle to think any act could have more than one of these unless you are the Beatles.  That said....

I found a list of the most played Beatles songs....and I would argue they all could fit this category.
  1. Hey Jude 
  2. I Want to Hold Your Hand 
  3. All You Need Is Love 
  4. Eleanor Rigby 
  5. Get Back
  6. Let It Be 
  7. Paperback Writer 
  8. Penny Lane 
  9. Ticket to Ride 
  10. We Can Work It Out
  11. Can’t Buy Me Love
A day in the life, Yellow Submarine, Hello, Goodbye.....c'mon, it's a just silly when you think about it in these terms.

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Posted: May 23, 2019 - 4:11am

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 sirdroseph wrote:
 If you are giving a songwriting class, pretty good exhibit on how to do it. 
 

Funny you should mention that. On my drive in this morning, that song, "Life in a Northern Town" by 1-hit wonders the Dream Academy came on. I keep waiting for it to come up on Trivia Night, but I A) Know the lead singer's name, which is only a thing because whenever I read it I think it says Nick Lowe. Nick Laird-Clowes. and 2), Nick attended a songwriting class led by Paul Simon, and so the story goes, Life in... is what came out of that.

I'll put that song here for reference, but I think it owes a lot to Sound of Silence, which is my entry for this thread.



 
Yea you can't go wrong with virtually any Paul Simon hit and I am not a particularly huge fan of his music (or him as a person for that matter) however you cannot ignore his prodigious songwriting talent.  One of the best.
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Posted: May 22, 2019 - 3:01pm



 rgio wrote:

Especially fond of the Secret World Live tour with Paula Cole, but the Youssou N'Dour original is tough to beat. 
 
I was thinking of that one, too. Bill definitely plays it quite a lot and I never tire of it. I also thought about Mercy Street, Solsbury Hill and Genesis' Carpet Crawlers. Though I don't think Crawlers really qualifies for ubiquity - I've never heard it anywhere but on my CD player and RP. 

I saw both PG tours... I'm a huge Youssou N'Dour fan. Gonna see him soon for the umpteenth time. 




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Posted: May 22, 2019 - 2:36pm



 sirdroseph wrote:
 If you are giving a songwriting class, pretty good exhibit on how to do it. 


 

Funny you should mention that. On my drive in this morning, that song, "Life in a Northern Town" by 1-hit wonders the Dream Academy came on. I keep waiting for it to come up on Trivia Night, but I A) Know the lead singer's name, which is only a thing because whenever I read it I think it says Nick Lowe. Nick Laird-Clowes. and 2), Nick attended a songwriting class led by Paul Simon, and so the story goes, Life in... is what came out of that.

I'll put that song here for reference, but I think it owes a lot to Sound of Silence, which is my entry for this thread.


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Posted: May 22, 2019 - 10:26am


Especially fond of the Secret World Live tour with Paula Cole, but the Youssou N'Dour original is tough to beat. 
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Posted: May 22, 2019 - 9:46am

Hey just saw this on the playlist, this fits the bill for me. I'm not skert!{#Lol}  If you are giving a songwriting class, pretty good exhibit on how to do it.{#Clap} 

 


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Posted: May 21, 2019 - 11:30am


Some might choose Like a Rolling Stone, but I'm fully sick of that one. 
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Posted: May 21, 2019 - 11:27am

I've got a few in mind. There are a few tracks on Joshua Tree that would qualify IMO. 



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Posted: May 21, 2019 - 10:50am

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 sirdroseph wrote:
These are songs that are run into the ground, but are so good it doesn't matter.  Imo these songs are very, very rare. 

 

My first submission:

 


 

funny a cover of that is playing right now. not a very good cover, either. 

 
Synchronicity! (not the song){#Lol}
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Posted: May 21, 2019 - 10:48am



 sirdroseph wrote:
These are songs that are run into the ground, but are so good it doesn't matter.  Imo these songs are very, very rare. 

 

My first submission:



 

Agree on the very, very rare.

And on your first choice.
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