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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 3:43pm



 Proclivities wrote:


 rgio wrote:


 Proclivities wrote:
 

I completely agree with the premise of this mans argument but are his request and the subsequent discussion having more of a Streisand Effect on this issue than if he'd just left it alone?

The perversion is that if Twitter were to remove the post or ban POTUS for a few days....the messaging from the right will be that the liberals are running a deep-state conspiracy to cover up the truth. 

It's wrong and terrible....but arguing is a lose/lose.   
 

It does seem like a lose/lose proposition for him, especially given that effect and the possibility of some "attacker-as-victim" response.  It seems like Trump is "suggesting" just enough (or not just enough) so that he can't be charged with libel or defamation.  Perhaps if left on the site intact and taken collectively, the Tweets could be eventually be more damning, legally - probably not though.
 
I think at some point you have to call out evil. You don't get rid of racism or sexism or other bad behaviour if you don't say something, even if you won't win in any particular incident.

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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 1:15pm



 rgio wrote:


 Proclivities wrote:
 

I completely agree with the premise of this mans argument but are his request and the subsequent discussion having more of a Streisand Effect on this issue than if he'd just left it alone?

The perversion is that if Twitter were to remove the post or ban POTUS for a few days....the messaging from the right will be that the liberals are running a deep-state conspiracy to cover up the truth. 

It's wrong and terrible....but arguing is a lose/lose.   
 

It does seem like a lose/lose proposition for him, especially given that effect and the possibility of some "attacker-as-victim" response.  It seems like Trump is "suggesting" just enough (or not just enough) so that he can't be charged with libel or defamation.  Perhaps if left on the site intact and taken collectively, the Tweets could be eventually be more damning, legally - probably not though.
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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 12:26pm



 Proclivities wrote:
 

I read the widower’s letter to Twitter CEO.. 

Trump tweeted about it again this morning. He is despicable.
rgio

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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 11:50am



 Proclivities wrote:
 

I completely agree with the premise of this mans argument but are his request and the subsequent discussion having more of a Streisand Effect on this issue than if he'd just left it alone?

The perversion is that if Twitter were to remove the post or ban POTUS for a few days....the messaging from the right will be that the liberals are running a deep-state conspiracy to cover up the truth. 

It's wrong and terrible....but arguing is a lose/lose.   
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Posted: May 26, 2020 - 11:11am

Widower of late Joe Scarborough staffer seeks removal of Trump tweets that promote baseless conspiracy theory
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Posted: May 24, 2020 - 3:28pm


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Posted: May 21, 2020 - 12:18pm

‘Trump Lies, People Die’: Protesters Leave Body Bags Outside White House
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Posted: May 10, 2020 - 6:50pm

Trump's Coronavirus Disinformation: Misleading on Testing, U.S. Death Toll and More
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Posted: Apr 23, 2020 - 11:24am

As Trump Urges Doctors to Lie on Live TV, Federal Official Says He Was Fired for Limiting Hydroxychloroquine Use
Donald Trump tried and failed on Wednesday to coerce two of the government’s top medical experts to endorse his claim that a second wave of Covid-19 infections in the fall is unlikely, hours after a federal whistleblower said he was fired by the administration for limiting the use of an unproven drug treatment touted by the president.

During a televised briefing on the Covid-19 pandemic, the president publicly displayed the political pressure he puts on government scientists by badgering Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response coordinator, to agree with his rosy projection that the virus “might not come back at all.” (...)

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Posted: Apr 14, 2020 - 7:48pm

Trump PR Stunt Falls Flat, as White House Video Exposes His Failure to Prepare for Pandemic

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Posted: Apr 14, 2020 - 5:04pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:


 BlueHeronDruid wrote:

Facts are superfluous to its opinion.
 

I was simply recording the moment for posterity.
 
I did the same for personal insults.

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Posted: Apr 14, 2020 - 5:02pm



 BlueHeronDruid wrote:

Facts are superfluous to its opinion.
 

I was simply recording the moment for posterity.
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Posted: Apr 14, 2020 - 4:39pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:

 


 

Facts are superfluous to its opinion.
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Posted: Apr 14, 2020 - 3:39pm



 jahgirl8 wrote:


 BlueHeronDruid wrote:


 jahgirl8 wrote:
ABOVE THE LINE, you're truly clueless. Never read a thoughtful PERSONAL REAL statement from you. The long time personal "friendships" you built are fortunate for you, though maybe not as real as you think.


 
facts are bad. don't do facts, m'kay?

 
Roger that.

 


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Posted: Apr 14, 2020 - 3:26pm



 BlueHeronDruid wrote:


 jahgirl8 wrote:
ABOVE THE LINE, you're truly clueless. Never read a thoughtful PERSONAL REAL statement from you. The long time personal "friendships" you built are fortunate for you, though maybe not as real as you think.


 
facts are bad. don't do facts, m'kay?

 
Roger that.

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Posted: Apr 14, 2020 - 2:38pm



 jahgirl8 wrote:
ABOVE THE LINE, you're truly clueless. Never read a thoughtful PERSONAL REAL statement from you. The long time personal "friendships" you built are fortunate for you, though maybe not as real as you think.


 
facts are bad. don't do facts, m'kay?

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Posted: Apr 14, 2020 - 2:09pm

ABOVE THE LINE, you're truly clueless. Never read a thoughtful PERSONAL REAL statement from you. The long time personal "friendships" you built are fortunate for you, though maybe not as real as you think.

 R_P wrote:
 


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Posted: Apr 14, 2020 - 1:23pm

Fact check: A list of false claims from Trump's bitter coronavirus briefing
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Posted: Apr 12, 2020 - 6:24pm


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Posted: Apr 8, 2020 - 10:10am

..."The original test — the ones we inherited, Jim, as an example, they were — they were broken. They were obsolete. They were not good tests. And that's what we got stuck with," he said at the April 3 briefing...

...Facts First: The faulty initial test for the coronavirus was created during Trump's administration, in early 2020, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Since this is a new virus that was first identified this year, the tests couldn't possibly be "old" or "obsolete."

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