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westslope

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 11:49pm



 rgio wrote:


......Let's be clear...I voted for the Republican until Trump.  I used to be awfully conservative.  What I couldn't support was a racist, selfish, con-man.  He was ONLY in it for himself.  He couldn't care less about you...he only cares about how to get money from you.  He was collecting money to challenge election results that he funneled to his new Super Pac.  The man never missed a chance to steal money from everyone he ever worked with.  What I subsequently can't support is a party that will do anything not to upset their new leader for fear he'll tweet about them.  It's embarrassing.

.......

 

That is what is so odd about Trump and his movement.  I have known many, many conservatives over the years, secular and social.   All of them without exception would be alienated even disgusted with Trump's behaviour, private and public.  All would place value on a political leader's character and integrity.  

Why the love, why the consistent, growing support?   Why the constant defence of his boorish behaviour by so many?  Why does the Trump movement seem so obsessively attached to the personality of Donald Trump? 

Why can the Trump movement not find another leader?  A leader of character, a leader of deep, firm moral values, who exudes compassion, a leader who seeks to inspire.  A leader who does not see the world as just a zero sum-game. but rather understand that outcomes improve with better  cooperation.

Perhaps the the pointed question is:  why has the Trump movement failed to develop other strong, articulate and influential leaders?  Why are so many Americans clamouring for charismatic authoritarianism at this stage in US history?
kcar

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 10:28pm



 islander wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

A) Your choice of words was very strange and unclear to me.  And what you quoted is a true statement.

B) That is a bald faced lie.  Never, ever have I said that or anything close to that.  I want to see you explain that one.
 

Your words...

https://radioparadise.com/comm...
 


Islander: 


I don't believe Kurt has ever claimed to be an ophthalmologist. AFAIK he's an optician. Ophthalmologists are qualified to conduct surgery. Kurt is not and AFAIK has never claimed that he operates on people. I don't think Kurt ever stated that the work he does is the equivalent of brain surgery.

Difference between an Ophthalmologist, Optometrist and Optician




Kurt does state in his six year-old post that you linked to that "An ophthalmologist is a brain surgeon. The eye is the exposed part of the brain via the most complex part of the brain the optic chiasm. As the eye is part of the brain, it is on the other side of the body's blood brain barrier, which in itself is a most complex system."   


An emeritus professor of ophthalmology at the  University of Leicester seems to back up Kurt's contention that the eyes are part of the brain. 

The eye is the only part of the brain that can be seen directly – this happens when the optician uses an ophthalmoscope and shines a bright light into your eye as part of an eye examination. It shows the innermost layer of the eye (the retina), and the nerve carrying visual messages from the retina to the brain (along the optic nerve) are visible in the back of the eye.


Whether you want to take issue with Kurt's claim that an ophthalmologist is a brain surgeon is up to you. 

Islander, now might be a great time for you to stop picking fights with Kurt. You're coming across as a drive-by bully. Please stick to the issues and dial down on the snarkiness. 
kurtster

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 10:22pm

 islander wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

A) Your choice of words was very strange and unclear to me.  And what you quoted is a true statement.

B) That is a bald faced lie.  Never, ever have I said that or anything close to that.  I want to see you explain that one.
 

Your words...

https://radioparadise.com/comm...
 
I knew you were going there.  You are simply a brain dead a$$hole, hell bent on f*cking with me for your personal amusement and to try and push my buttons enough to go off the rails to get DD'ed here.  Same as always as you have stalked me on these boards for years.  I really do rent space your head for free.

I am an optician and have never said otherwise.  That you confuse my profession with ophthalmology is beyond belief especially with your father having been an MD, IIRC.

That was in reference to defending Senator Rand Paul, an Ophthalmologist, as to his competency on commenting and judging on things medical. Yes, the eye is the exposed part of the brain.  The optic nerve terminates in the eye.  Should someone's eyeball fall out of its socket the thing that keeps it from falling on the floor is this optic nerve which is a direct extension of the occipital lobe of the brain.  You will see that the globe is part of it not just an attachment to it.

There are the three "O"'s of which I am the third and lowliest of them, the optician. 

In order of skill and importance:

From the post you cited ... Ophthalmologists are a type of physician, and, thus, they are required to earn a medical degree. The process is a lengthy one, with a prospective ophthalmologist having to earn a 4-year bachelor's degree, complete four years of medical school, and 3-8 years of internships and residencies.

and from this handy dandy linky to web md

The second "O" in an Optometrist ... Optometrists take care of primary health care for the eye. After college, they spent 4 years in a professional program and got a doctor of optometry degree. Some optometrists get additional clinical training or complete a specialty fellowship after optometry school. They focus on regular vision care

I am the third and lowliest of the three "O"'s the Optician, or pharmacist who fills the optical prescriptions written by either of the two types of doctors mentioned above. 

Opticians aren’t eye doctors and can’t give eye exams. They get a 1- or 2-year degree, certificate, or diploma. They fill the prescription your eye doctor gives you.  

I have a two year AAS degree, board certified in both spectacles and contact lenses and hold a medical license in my state in order to legally practice opticianry independent of any direct supervision. I am licensed to do contact lens exams and write prescriptions for and fit contact lenses independently should I choose to do so.  With this license I am held to the same standards as every other licensed medical professional in my state.

Your repeated failure to understand my clear representations of what I do is not my fault.  You bitter hatred towards me blinds any contemplation of reason or fairness in dealing with anything I have to say here.  All you do is personally attack me at every opportunity you can find.

I rarely, if ever anymore, initiate any contact with you for this reason.  It is you who initiates first contact with me and jumps to comment on either an open post or a reply to someone else.  I just simply respond to your what are generally personal attacks and false accusations as has been the case this afternoon.  You have stated before that you will not ignore me and that it is your personal mission to keep me "honest" here.  I take that as a continued threat and an exhibit of your actual stalking of me.

You have outright called me a Liar on two separate occasions today.  Two swings and two strikes.  Third one will be the charm, eh ?
islander

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 9:24pm



 kurtster wrote:

A) Your choice of words was very strange and unclear to me.  And what you quoted is a true statement.

B) That is a bald faced lie.  Never, ever have I said that or anything close to that.  I want to see you explain that one.
 

Your words...

https://radioparadise.com/comm...
kurtster

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 9:04pm

 islander wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Your words not mine.  I just described what I actually do.  What any optician does. 

I guess that you think that it is ultra dangerous.  CV - 19 must have you scared to death, eh ?

Not a lie.  Why would I lie about something like that ?  Just shows me how low of an opinion of me you hold.

I presently work at least 3 days a week. Th, F and S.  10 to 4.  And have since I returned to work at the end of August.

And what do you mean by : A) you're already taken too much out of the system ...  Translation please ?
 
Your words:  
 kurtster wrote:


I have to work as being on disability the last 10 earning years for social security pretty much screwed any chance of completely retiring on it. I must work until I die.


B)  And you've also compared your line of work to brain surgery, so forgive us out here in the peanut gallery if we are quick to assume BS when you are bloviating. 
 
A) Your choice of words was very strange and unclear to me.  And what you quoted is a true statement.

B) That is a bald faced lie.  Never, ever have I said that or anything close to that.  I want to see you explain that one.
Steely_D

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 9:01pm



 kcar wrote:


 

Kurt: maybe there's nothing to reveal! 




 

I might've gone with

WILL IT BE THE SUN, OR A BASEBALL?
THE SUN? OR A BASEBALL?
kcar

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 8:51pm



 steeler wrote:


 Red_Dragon wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

I guess we'll have to wait for the election in Georgia to find out.  If the d's win, we'll never hear about it again.  If the r's win and keep the Senate then there's a fair chance an investigation will continue.

And since you didn't ask, as far as what Barr and Durham are up to ?  I don't think we'll ever hear another word from them regarding Durham's investigation.  It will just quietly close up and disappear.  The deep state wins again.
 




 

It is foolproof. If there is no Durham report — or it is issued but lackluster — it is because it has been swept under the rug. 

Similarly, if the courts reject the claims of voter fraud, it is because, as Trump has been saying, the judges are being political or lacking courage, or they are not allowing the Trump attorneys to present their evidence.
 

I blame that wascally wabbit. 


islander

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 8:48pm



 kurtster wrote:

Your words not mine.  I just described what I actually do.  What any optician does. 

I guess that you think that it is ultra dangerous.  CV - 19 must have you scared to death, eh ?

Not a lie.  Why would I lie about something like that ?  Just shows me how low of an opinion of me you hold.

I presently work at least 3 days a week. Th, F and S.  10 to 4.  And have since I returned to work at the end of August.

And what do you mean by : you're already taken too much out of the system ...  Translation please ?
 
Your words:  


 kurtster wrote:


I have to work as being on disability the last 10 earning years for social security pretty much screwed any chance of completely retiring on it. I must work until I die.


And you've also compared your line of work to brain surgery, so forgive us out here in the peanut gallery if we are quick to assume BS when you are bloviating. 
steeler

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 7:53pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

I guess we'll have to wait for the election in Georgia to find out.  If the d's win, we'll never hear about it again.  If the r's win and keep the Senate then there's a fair chance an investigation will continue.

And since you didn't ask, as far as what Barr and Durham are up to ?  I don't think we'll ever hear another word from them regarding Durham's investigation.  It will just quietly close up and disappear.  The deep state wins again.
 




 

It is foolproof. If there is no Durham report — or it is issued but lackluster — it is because it has been swept under the rug. 

Similarly, if the courts reject the claims of voter fraud, it is because, as Trump has been saying, the judges are being political or lacking courage, or they are not allowing the Trump attorneys to present their evidence.
kurtster

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 7:35pm

 islander wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

we can do this forever.  The difference is you have to go to work tomorrow and I don't ...

.
{#Nyah}
 

I thought you had an ultra dangerous job getting up next to people's faces. And you couldn't quit until you die because you're already taken too much out of the system.... Or was that all a lie?
 
Your words not mine.  I just described what I actually do.  What any optician does. 

I guess that you think that it is ultra dangerous.  CV - 19 must have you scared to death, eh ?

Not a lie.  Why would I lie about something like that ?  Just shows me how low of an opinion of me you hold.

I presently work at least 3 days a week. Th, F and S.  10 to 4.  And have since I returned to work at the end of August.

And what do you mean by : you're already taken too much out of the system ...  Translation please ?
islander

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 7:16pm



 kurtster wrote:

we can do this forever.  The difference is you have to go to work tomorrow and I don't ...

.
{#Nyah}
 

I thought you had an ultra dangerous job getting up next to people's faces. And you couldn't quit until you die because you're already taken too much out of the system.... Or was that all a lie?
kcar

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 6:01pm



 kurtster wrote:

I guess we'll have to wait for the election in Georgia to find out.  If the d's win, we'll never hear about it again.  If the r's win and keep the Senate then there's a fair chance an investigation will continue.

And since you didn't ask, as far as what Barr and Durham are up to ?  I don't think we'll ever hear another word from them regarding Durham's investigation.  It will just quietly close up and disappear.  The deep state wins again.
 

No one and nothing is stopping Trump and Barr and Durham from providing updates on Hunter's laptop or Durham's investigation before Biden's inauguration. I believe you pointed out long ago that Trump has the power to declassify pretty much anything he wants. 

Trump doesn't care if declassifying investigations or findings screw things up for Biden in terms of dealing with Ukraine or China or the FBI. In fact, Trump would likely welcome efforts to create problems for Biden. 

The Deep State has no power to stop a lame duck DJ Trump. Trump could indulge in some schadenfreude by embarrassing or hampering Biden...if there were anything to reveal from Hunter's laptop or Durham's investigation. 

Kurt: maybe there's nothing to reveal! 




Red_Dragon

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 5:51pm



 kurtster wrote:

So what color shirt are you wearing tomorrow ?

Do you have a Monday shirt or a Monday color ?
 
deflection... utterly meaningless

You love Trump.

kurtster

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 4:29pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:



 
So what color shirt are you wearing tomorrow ?

Do you have a Monday shirt or a Monday color ?
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 3:42pm



 kurtster wrote:

I guess we'll have to wait for the election in Georgia to find out.  If the d's win, we'll never hear about it again.  If the r's win and keep the Senate then there's a fair chance an investigation will continue.

And since you didn't ask, as far as what Barr and Durham are up to ?  I don't think we'll ever hear another word from them regarding Durham's investigation.  It will just quietly close up and disappear.  The deep state wins again.
 




kurtster

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 3:42pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

we can do this forever.  The difference is you have to go to work tomorrow and I don't ...

.
{#Nyah}
 

Utterly meaningless. You still love Trump.
 
you still hate him.

What time does your alarm go off in the morning again ?
kurtster

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 3:40pm

 rgio wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

fixed, and yes Bill could not be happier.

And Trump's facts are only a phony outrage for you since you support Biden and his handling of facts and even his well known penchant for bald faced plagiarism.

I think looking at Biden's record will make Trump's tales pretty small compared to Biden's very tall tales as established by his long, long record.
 
Time will tell.   Let's be clear...I voted for the Republican until Trump.  I used to be awfully conservative.  What I couldn't support was a racist, selfish, con-man.  He was ONLY in it for himself.  He couldn't care less about you...he only cares about how to get money from you.  He was collecting money to challenge election results that he funneled to his new Super Pac.  The man never missed a chance to steal money from everyone he ever worked with.  What I subsequently can't support is a party that will do anything not to upset their new leader for fear he'll tweet about them.  It's embarrassing.

BTW - What's up with Hunter's laptop?

 
I guess we'll have to wait for the election in Georgia to find out.  If the d's win, we'll never hear about it again.  If the r's win and keep the Senate then there's a fair chance an investigation will continue.

And since you didn't ask, as far as what Barr and Durham are up to ?  I don't think we'll ever hear another word from them regarding Durham's investigation.  It will just quietly close up and disappear.  The deep state wins again.
rgio

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 3:26pm



 kurtster wrote:

fixed, and yes Bill could not be happier.

And Trump's facts are only a phony outrage for you since you support Biden and his handling of facts and even his well known penchant for bald faced plagiarism.

I think looking at Biden's record will make Trump's tales pretty small compared to Biden's very tall tales as established by his long, long record.
 
Time will tell.   Let's be clear...I voted for the Republican until Trump.  I used to be awfully conservative.  What I couldn't support was a racist, selfish, con-man.  He was ONLY in it for himself.  He couldn't care less about you...he only cares about how to get money from you.  He was collecting money to challenge election results that he funneled to his new Super Pac.  The man never missed a chance to steal money from everyone he ever worked with.  What I subsequently can't support is a party that will do anything not to upset their new leader for fear he'll tweet about them.  It's embarrassing.

BTW - What's up with Hunter's laptop?

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 3:25pm



 kurtster wrote:

we can do this forever.  The difference is you have to go to work tomorrow and I don't ...

.
{#Nyah}
 

Utterly meaningless. You still love Trump.
kurtster

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Posted: Nov 29, 2020 - 3:12pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

and you still hate him.
 

You still love Trump.
 
we can do this forever.  The difference is you have to go to work tomorrow and I don't ...

.
{#Nyah}
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