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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 3:34am

 sirdroseph wrote:
Y'all can say what you want, but if they just push it on through with condescending brush offs as conspiracy theories, faith in our electoral process and whether US citizens votes are tabulated correctly is going to take a major hit.  I usually chuckle at all of the chicken little, "but our Republic is at stake!" cries, but for the first time in my life I am wondering whether I will see a complete collapse of our government as we know it in my lifetime.   They had better at least act like they care and produce some type of thorough and completely transparent audit and keep us informed.  When most of the country already thinks voting is a shame based upon the political process, throw  fraud in there and the separation of the political elites and the common man becomes a chasm that we can no longer cross. 

And Trump has much to blame for this as well, by being such an asshole he has pissed off people so bad I fear they have gone to very dark lengths to remove him.  The temptation was just too great and no doubt they felt the ends justified the means, but now we have a much bigger problem.......
 
Yeah.  That said, all Trump did really was tear down the curtains and exposed the charade in no uncertain terms and took all of the arrows.  He has only slowed down the inevitable for 4 years though.  The bigger problem you refer to is the same old problem only now it is a full court press to push this stuff through.  Trump has to be made an example of so no one else from the outside tries again, ever.

This is all about discrediting elections so that we the people, lose faith in the system, roll over and give up ... to the inevitable ...

Some have called this The Great Reset and it is going ahead full tilt with Trump out of the way now.

Eh ?
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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 3:26am

 buddy wrote:


 Jiggz wrote:
The way I see it from outside USA (and I may be incorrect....)

 

You could have stopped here & saved yourself blisters on your fingers
 
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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 3:22am

 sirdroseph wrote:
And Trump has much to blame for this as well, by being such an asshole he has pissed off people so bad I fear they have gone to very dark lengths to remove him.  The temptation was just too great and no doubt they felt the ends justified the means, but now we have a much bigger problem.......
 
wtf?  evidence please or you are just another CT out there.  Trump was his own undoing. He united his otherwise fractured opposition. No need for dark forces, or to put it another way, Trump was the dark force.
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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 3:06am

Y'all can say what you want, but if they just push it on through with condescending brush offs as conspiracy theories, faith in our electoral process and whether US citizens votes are tabulated correctly is going to take a major hit.  I usually chuckle at all of the chicken little, "but our Republic is at stake!" cries, but for the first time in my life I am wondering whether I will see a complete collapse of our government as we know it in my lifetime.   They had better at least act like they care and produce some type of thorough and completely transparent audit and keep us informed.  When most of the country already thinks voting is a shame based upon the political process, throw  fraud in there and the separation of the political elites and the common man becomes a chasm that we can no longer cross.  And Trump has much to blame for this as well, by being such an asshole he has pissed off people so bad I fear they have gone to very dark lengths to remove him.  The temptation was just too great and no doubt they felt the ends justified the means, but now we have a much bigger problem.......
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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 1:19am

 Jiggz wrote:
The way I see it from outside USA (and I may be incorrect because the intricacies of US Constitution are not something we are taught) is that there is no 'President-Elect' because the election has not actually been finalised - the electoral college has not done it's job yet. It is the electoral college that elects the President.

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So all the 'President-Elect' stuff is assumptive nonsense and made up media bulldust and I am surprised that Biden is allowing it to happen. He should know better. He should do better.
Legacy media 'calling' the election is meaningless - they are nobodies who have no say in anything besides manipulating public opinion. They have no legal or Constitutional standing.
Surely Trump is fully within his rights to question the election if he believes there is reason to, in fact it is his job to do so and he would be derelict in his duties if he didn't. There is no Consitutional requirement to 'concede' anything before Inauguration Day, certainly not on the basis of projections of the legacy media houses. Conceding before Inauguration day is merely a gentlemanly thing to do to end the squabbling, that is all. Surely everyone knows this?
Biden surely knows this and if roles were reversed he would be expected to do the same. You don't hand over the keys to the kingdom to someone who you think might be planning to steal the silver.
Data scientists and analysts from outside the USA have raised questions enough and shown things that cause me, for one, to believe there are interesting reasons enough to ask questions.
If nothing is found then nothing is lost. Common sense. If the Biden team doesn't know this then we may have a problem.

Why would you not want the election to be unequivocally, after investigation and legal challenge, declared free and fair if someone has questions?  Why the shrilling by legacy media?
If you are absolutely convinced that it was free and fair and that there is nothing there to see, then there is nothing to worry about, right?
I would expect Biden to welcome any investigation into election results if he truly believes there is no reason to question them.  I'd expect him to be behind a mic everyday expressing his agreement to any and all investigations and challenges, for the good of the country and to finally put the Trump era to bed, once and for all.
Likewise if he thought there was indeed reason to question the results then again, for the good of the country, lets check it all out....you believe you have won fair and square, unless you think maybe you haven't.
The fact that he hasn't publicly welcomed the investigations and challenges makes me wonder a little, though I may have missed him doing so.

As far as I can determine there are two avenues of legal investigation - loosely, failure to conduct elections properly in accordance with the Constitution by election officials (either by mistake or intentionally), and the integrity of voting machines and attendant peripherals and software.

It makes perfect sense to bifurcate the two avenues early because the latter may involve pursuant legal action against elected officials which, in my limited understanding, cannot be brought by a sitting president and by extension, his campaign team? Am I correct? The possible revelations may involve criminal charges, possibly against Trump allies. I don't believe Sydney Powell has so much been thrown under the bus as much as allowed to beaver off and do what she needs to independently of the timeline the other avenue is up against. Not so nutty, more like sensible.

Why would you not want, for the future, to be absolutely clear that no interference can happen or has happened through these machines? Even if her evidence seems sketchy at this point, why would you not want her to mount her challenge in her personal capacity as a concerned citizen with a significant record of overturning some 73% of prior decisions challenged as an appeals lawyer? It's good for everyone if she does indeed have a go, surely?
She either finds things that need to be found, or doesn't. Not a bad thing either way, and possibly a good thing to come out of the Trump era that will outlive his administration.

As far as I can make out the Constitution allows for this eventuality, it has happened more than once before though not in our lifetimes, and even if the electoral college can't come to a mutually acceptable result, there is a contingent election facility in the House of Representatives.

If Trump lost then let him find out to his own satisfaction, and go away. If he actually hasn't lost, then take the opportunity to fix what is broken and make sure it can't happen again. If your very next breath depends on Trump being gone from office then maybe you need help until you find a way to beat him and his ilk fair and square, because from what I can see Trump may be gone but his base is only stronger than they were in 2016 and will not likely just disappear if he does. You might want to find out why that is instead of yelling at them and calling them deplorables.  Maybe they have concrete concerns and ideas?

All in all, I think a fantastic opportunity to test the system has arisen, and why not take it and test it?

Sit back, relax, grab some popcorn and let things play out as they must, and enjoy these most interesting times.
 
Well said.

I think you have a pretty good understanding of the things you spoke about.  A much better understanding than most US citizens to be sure.  Civics is no longer taught in our schools.

Yes, let this run its course.  Sunshine and transparency are the most revealing and healing things.

I agree with your take on Powell.  She is a pit bull.

This is how this country was designed to function and operate.  Why anyone would oppose these things being investigated is beyond my comprehension.  The only reason I can think of is the fear that real fraud may be uncovered.
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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 12:55am



 Jiggz wrote:
The way I see it from outside USA (and I may be incorrect....)

 

You could have stopped here & saved yourself blisters on your fingers
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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 12:50am



 kurtster wrote:

Ah ! Yes !  Finally, we have Trump was not and never was legitimately elected POTUS.

Wasn't it Hillary who advised Biden to never concede in this election ?  Because why ?

Oh yeah, she was cheated out of being POTUS because the election was rigged against her.

So you have a problem with Trump fully exercising his legal rights to challenge irregularities ?

Did you have a problem with Hillary doing the same ?  She spent most of the last 4 years running around the world telling anyone who would listen that she was robbed and cheated out of being POTUS.  That after declaring that she would graciously accept the outcome of the 2016 election during a debate with Trump.  Well she did anything but that.

If it happened to her, why could it not have happened this time against Trump ?

Or did Trump win fair and square in 2016 ?  Which one is it ?  Can't have it both ways.
 
Oh please. HRC conceded the night of the election.  Trump never will. Your veiled “but her emails!” crap is DOA.  This is not a having it both ways thing, as your false equivalency jibber-jabber would have it. It’s been thoroughly investigated & proven that Russia interfered in the 2016 election in favor of Trump. And they likely did again this time out, but America turned out in record numbers & it failed.

Sorry not sorry you & your boy are losers who cannot admit it. As the song goes, what a fool believes, he sees.....

Jiggz



Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 12:48am

The way I see it from outside USA (and I may be incorrect because the intricacies of US Constitution are not something we are taught) is that there is no 'President-Elect' because the election has not actually been finalised - the electoral college has not done it's job yet. It is the electoral college that elects the President.
So all the 'President-Elect' stuff is assumptive nonsense and made up media bulldust and I am surprised that Biden is allowing it to happen. He should know better. He should do better.
Legacy media 'calling' the election is meaningless - they are nobodies who have no say in anything besides manipulating public opinion. They have no legal or Constitutional standing.
Surely Trump is fully within his rights to question the election if he believes there is reason to, in fact it is his job to do so and he would be derelict in his duties if he didn't. There is no Consitutional requirement to 'concede' anything before Inauguration Day, certainly not on the basis of projections of the legacy media houses. Conceding before Inauguration day is merely a gentlemanly thing to do to end the squabbling, that is all. Surely everyone knows this?
Biden surely knows this and if roles were reversed he would be expected to do the same. You don't hand over the keys to the kingdom to someone who you think might be planning to steal the silver.
Data scientists and analysts from outside the USA have raised questions enough and shown things that cause me, for one, to believe there are interesting reasons enough to ask questions.
If nothing is found then nothing is lost. Common sense. If the Biden team doesn't know this then we may have a problem.

Why would you not want the election to be unequivocally, after investigation and legal challenge, declared free and fair if someone has questions?  Why the shrilling by legacy media?
If you are absolutely convinced that it was free and fair and that there is nothing there to see, then there is nothing to worry about, right?
I would expect Biden to welcome any investigation into election results if he truly believes there is no reason to question them.  I'd expect him to be behind a mic everyday expressing his agreement to any and all investigations and challenges, for the good of the country and to finally put the Trump era to bed, once and for all.
Likewise if he thought there was indeed reason to question the results then again, for the good of the country, lets check it all out....you believe you have won fair and square, unless you think maybe you haven't.
The fact that he hasn't publicly welcomed the investigations and challenges makes me wonder a little, though I may have missed him doing so.

As far as I can determine there are two avenues of legal investigation - loosely, failure to conduct elections properly in accordance with the Constitution by election officials (either by mistake or intentionally), and the integrity of voting machines and attendant peripherals and software.

It makes perfect sense to bifurcate the two avenues early because the latter may involve pursuant legal action against elected officials which, in my limited understanding, cannot be brought by a sitting president and by extension, his campaign team? Am I correct? The possible revelations may involve criminal charges, possibly against Trump allies. I don't believe Sydney Powell has so much been thrown under the bus as much as allowed to beaver off and do what she needs to independently of the timeline the other avenue is up against. Not so nutty, more like sensible.

Why would you not want, for the future, to be absolutely clear that no interference can happen or has happened through these machines? Even if her evidence seems sketchy at this point, why would you not want her to mount her challenge in her personal capacity as a concerned citizen with a significant record of overturning some 73% of prior decisions challenged as an appeals lawyer? It's good for everyone if she does indeed have a go, surely?
She either finds things that need to be found, or doesn't. Not a bad thing either way, and possibly a good thing to come out of the Trump era that will outlive his administration.

As far as I can make out the Constitution allows for this eventuality, it has happened more than once before though not in our lifetimes, and even if the electoral college can't come to a mutually acceptable result, there is a contingent election facility in the House of Representatives.

If Trump lost then let him find out to his own satisfaction, and go away. If he actually hasn't lost, then take the opportunity to fix what is broken and make sure it can't happen again. If your very next breath depends on Trump being gone from office then maybe you need help until you find a way to beat him and his ilk fair and square, because from what I can see Trump may be gone but his base is only stronger than they were in 2016 and will not likely just disappear if he does. You might want to find out why that is instead of yelling at them and calling them deplorables.  Maybe they have concrete concerns and ideas?

All in all, I think a fantastic opportunity to test the system has arisen, and why not take it and test it?

Sit back, relax, grab some popcorn and let things play out as they must, and enjoy these most interesting times.






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Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 10:43pm



 kurtster wrote:

Ah ! Yes !  Finally, we have Trump was not and never was legitimately elected POTUS.

Wasn't it Hillary who advised Biden to never concede in this election ?  Because why ?

Oh yeah, she was cheated out of being POTUS because the election was rigged against her.

So you have a problem with Trump fully exercising his legal rights to challenge irregularities ?

Did you have a problem with Hillary doing the same ?  She spent most of the last 4 years running around the world telling anyone who would listen that she was robbed and cheated out of being POTUS.  That after declaring that she would graciously accept the outcome of the 2016 election during a debate with Trump.  Well she did anything but that.

If it happened to her, why could it not have happened this time against Trump ?

Or did Trump win fair and square in 2016 ?  Which one is it ?  Can't have it both ways.
 

HRC told not to concede ON ELECTION NIGHT.
She didn't tell him to never concede. 

You've trotted this claim out before. I debunked it as have others. Your memory sucks and that's the most charitable conclusion I can reach. 

Trump was legitimately elected. With the help of Russia and the narcissistic stupidity of Jim Comey. 

Trump and allies have made wild, unsubstantiated claims of cheating. Trump has stretched this process out far beyond the limit of reasonable challenges. He is 0-for-infinity in court. 

Trump is a loser and a douchebag. He will never call Biden and concede. It'll be a small miracle if he shows up for Biden's inauguration. This country is in serious crisis and all Trump can do is play golf and try make Biden's first months as difficult as possible. 

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Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 9:29pm

 buddy wrote:
 

You could just go out on your porch & yell “you Democrats get off my lawn!”

and the fact is, the votes have been verified & your hero lost in a landslide. Try to keep up.

also, it has been rigged before....in 2016, comrade.
 
Ah ! Yes !  Finally, we have Trump was not and never was legitimately elected POTUS.

Wasn't it Hillary who advised Biden to never concede in this election ?  Because why ?

Oh yeah, she was cheated out of being POTUS because the election was rigged against her.

So you have a problem with Trump fully exercising his legal rights to challenge irregularities ?

Did you have a problem with Hillary doing the same ?  She spent most of the last 4 years running around the world telling anyone who would listen that she was robbed and cheated out of being POTUS.  That after declaring that she would graciously accept the outcome of the 2016 election during a debate with Trump.  Well she did anything but that.

If it happened to her, why could it not have happened this time against Trump ?

Or did Trump win fair and square in 2016 ?  Which one is it ?  Can't have it both ways.
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Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 6:24pm

"He preferred the parts of the job that combined pomp, splendor and a world amenable to his decisions. In other words, he always seemed to genuinely enjoy pardoning turkeys."
In November 2018, after a vote that did not matter enough to him to push conspiracy theories about the outcome, President Trump stood in the Rose Garden and delivered the hard truth.

“This was a fair election,” he said to a bird named Carrots, sidelined at the annual White House turkey pardon after being snubbed in an online contest over which privileged poultry (Peas or Carrots) would star in the ritual. “Unfortunately, Carrots refused to concede and demanded a recount, and we’re still fighting with Carrots.”

The crowd laughed, and Mr. Trump smirked a little. Such hammy pageantry in stately settings, aides say, has long been a part of the job he especially enjoys. He gripped his lectern for the punchline, thumbs behind the presidential seal.

“We’ve come to a conclusion,” Mr. Trump said grandly. “Carrots, I’m sorry to tell you, the result did not change. It’s too bad for Carrots.”

Two years later, after an election result that was too bad for Mr. Trump, he has been less willing to accept the cold math of whom the people want to see at the White House. (...)
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Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 5:29pm



 kcar wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
No one seems to want to investigate anything, except Trump.


 



Kurt, why don't you dig into the efforts made to secure and protect voting and election results. We're not going to start googling to disprove your contention. 


 

BAM!! NEXT QUESTION!
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Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 5:23pm



 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
No one seems to want to investigate anything, except Trump.


 


.  Encore!

Kurt, why don't you dig into the efforts made to secure and protect voting and election results. We're not going to start googling to disprove your contention. 

Oh, and BTW: Emily Murphy has officially started the transition process, with Diaper Don's approval: 


First on CNN: Key government agency acknowledges Biden's win and begins formal transition


(CNN)The General Services Administration has informed President-elect Joe Biden that the Trump administration is ready to begin the formal transition process, according to a letter from Administrator Emily Murphy sent Monday afternoon and obtained by CNN.

The letter is the first step the administration has taken to acknowledge President Donald Trump's defeat, more than two weeks after Biden was declared the winner in the election.Murphy said she had not been pressured by the White House to delay the formal transition and did not make a decision "out of fear or favoritism."
    "Please know that I came to my decision independently, based on the law and available facts," Murphy wrote. "I was never directly or indirectly pressured by any Executive Branch official — including those who work at the White House or GSA — with regard to the substance or timing of my decision. To be clear, I did not receive any direction to delay my determination."



    Trump's tweets supporting Murphy's decision: 


    https://twitter.com/realDonald...
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    Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 5:17pm



     buddy wrote:

    You could just go out on your porch & yell “you Democrats get off my lawn!”


    and the fact is, the votes have been verified & your hero lost in a landslide. Try to keep up.

    also, it has been rigged before....in 2016, comrade.
     




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    Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 5:14pm


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    Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 5:10pm



     kurtster wrote:

    So you're saying / implying that it is impossible to rig a presidential election in the USA ?

    Or that no one is trying to 

    Or that no one did ?

    That seems to be the common thought behind the thwarting all of Trump's lawsuits.

    No one seems to want to investigate anything, except Trump.

    Trust ?  Not without verifying.

    ymwv ...

     

    And, here we go. The old it is all being swept under the rug, which, of course, assumes the illegality du jour is true even if not proven.

    Trump’s goal here has been to try to reverse the election in his favor. It has nothing to do with any greater good. 
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    Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 5:06pm



     kurtster wrote:

    So you're saying / implying that it is impossible to rig a presidential election in the USA ?

    Or that no one is trying to 

    Or that no one did ?

    That seems to be the common thought behind the thwarting all of Trump's lawsuits.

    No one seems to want to investigate anything, except Trump.

    Trust ?  Not without verifying.

    ymwv ...

     

    You could just go out on your porch & yell “you Democrats get off my lawn!”

    and the fact is, the votes have been verified & your hero lost in a landslide. Try to keep up.

    also, it has been rigged before....in 2016, comrade.
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    Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 4:58pm

     kurtster wrote:
    No one seems to want to investigate anything, except Trump.


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    Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 4:53pm

     NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

    predict something that didn't happen? or do you too think the vote was rigged despite a complete lack of evidence?
     
    So you're saying / implying that it is impossible to rig a presidential election in the USA ?

    Or that no one is trying to 

    Or that no one did ?

    That seems to be the common thought behind the thwarting all of Trump's lawsuits.

    No one seems to want to investigate anything, except Trump.

    Trust ?  Not without verifying.

    ymwv ...

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    Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 4:39pm



     Red_Dragon wrote:
     

    The time was 3 weeks ago. We’re in the 3rd OT of a game that was decided in the 4th quarter. 
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