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rtrt

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Posted: Jan 12, 2020 - 12:15pm

Thank you-100% it is!
For clarity I wasn't referring to the Google home app volume - the one with the circular control -meant the HD8 physical volume buttons.

 jarro wrote:
Yeah that is generally how it works.   There will be a  volume for casting that is more for convenience.   You'll want it set to 100 then use the volume on the amplifier/tv.    

 rtrt wrote:
Confirm mirroring is supported on my v7 Amazon HD8 - great news thanks for the pointer! Using it now in fact.

One thing that caught me out was that the volume level was much lower than casting from the app as usual.

It took me a while to realise that the tablet volume level was impacting on what was mirrored.

Normally I'd never run anything at full volume as it tends to distort the audio due to amp performance.

I can't hear anything like that, presumably because the mirrored audio is completely digital all the way to the Chromecast - does that make sense?

 jarro wrote:
Support can depend on phone model as well.   The  option will be  in the home app you used to originally setup the chromcast device.  If it's supported.

 rtrt wrote:

Thank you for quick follow up.

Can I check as I'm not familiar with screen mirroring - maybe it's not available on my Chromecast Audio variant? 

 jarro wrote:
It's one of those things that came up but didn't make it into the release.

You can get around it though with  chromecasts screen mirroring  feature.
Just mirror the phone   while playing from cache.

 rtrt wrote:
Playing around with casting and can only cast the live stream.

When I try to cast a block stored locally on my Amazon hd8, the audio switches to local playback with no interaction from me.

Seems like I should be able to cast any/all audio - no?
 


 


 


 


 


 


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Posted: Jan 12, 2020 - 11:30am

Yeah that is generally how it works.   There will be a  volume for casting that is more for convenience.   You'll want it set to 100 then use the volume on the amplifier/tv.    

 rtrt wrote:
Confirm mirroring is supported on my v7 Amazon HD8 - great news thanks for the pointer! Using it now in fact.

One thing that caught me out was that the volume level was much lower than casting from the app as usual.

It took me a while to realise that the tablet volume level was impacting on what was mirrored.

Normally I'd never run anything at full volume as it tends to distort the audio due to amp performance.

I can't hear anything like that, presumably because the mirrored audio is completely digital all the way to the Chromecast - does that make sense?

 jarro wrote:
Support can depend on phone model as well.   The  option will be  in the home app you used to originally setup the chromcast device.  If it's supported.

 rtrt wrote:

Thank you for quick follow up.

Can I check as I'm not familiar with screen mirroring - maybe it's not available on my Chromecast Audio variant? 

 jarro wrote:
It's one of those things that came up but didn't make it into the release.

You can get around it though with  chromecasts screen mirroring  feature.
Just mirror the phone   while playing from cache.

 rtrt wrote:
Playing around with casting and can only cast the live stream.

When I try to cast a block stored locally on my Amazon hd8, the audio switches to local playback with no interaction from me.

Seems like I should be able to cast any/all audio - no?
 


 


 


 


 


rtrt

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Posted: Jan 12, 2020 - 10:24am

Confirm mirroring is supported on my v7 Amazon HD8 - great news thanks for the pointer! Using it now in fact.

One thing that caught me out was that the volume level was much lower than casting from the app as usual.

It took me a while to realise that the tablet volume level was impacting on what was mirrored.

Normally I'd never run anything at full volume as it tends to distort the audio due to amp performance.

I can't hear anything like that, presumably because the mirrored audio is completely digital all the way to the Chromecast - does that make sense?

 jarro wrote:
Support can depend on phone model as well.   The  option will be  in the home app you used to originally setup the chromcast device.  If it's supported.

 rtrt wrote:

Thank you for quick follow up.

Can I check as I'm not familiar with screen mirroring - maybe it's not available on my Chromecast Audio variant? 

 jarro wrote:
It's one of those things that came up but didn't make it into the release.

You can get around it though with  chromecasts screen mirroring  feature.
Just mirror the phone   while playing from cache.

 rtrt wrote:
Playing around with casting and can only cast the live stream.

When I try to cast a block stored locally on my Amazon hd8, the audio switches to local playback with no interaction from me.

Seems like I should be able to cast any/all audio - no?
 


 


 


 


jarro

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Posted: Jan 10, 2020 - 5:34am

Support can depend on phone model as well.   The  option will be  in the home app you used to originally setup the chromcast device.  If it's supported.

 rtrt wrote:

Thank you for quick follow up.

Can I check as I'm not familiar with screen mirroring - maybe it's not available on my Chromecast Audio variant? 

 jarro wrote:
It's one of those things that came up but didn't make it into the release.

You can get around it though with  chromecasts screen mirroring  feature.
Just mirror the phone   while playing from cache.

 rtrt wrote:
Playing around with casting and can only cast the live stream.

When I try to cast a block stored locally on my Amazon hd8, the audio switches to local playback with no interaction from me.

Seems like I should be able to cast any/all audio - no?
 


 


 


rtrt

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Posted: Jan 9, 2020 - 5:34pm


Thank you for quick follow up.

Can I check as I'm not familiar with screen mirroring - maybe it's not available on my Chromecast Audio variant? 

 jarro wrote:
It's one of those things that came up but didn't make it into the release.

You can get around it though with  chromecasts screen mirroring  feature.
Just mirror the phone   while playing from cache.

 rtrt wrote:
Playing around with casting and can only cast the live stream.

When I try to cast a block stored locally on my Amazon hd8, the audio switches to local playback with no interaction from me.

Seems like I should be able to cast any/all audio - no?
 


 


bevgerry

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Posted: Jan 9, 2020 - 9:32am


Yes the app is written to only use USB so the first thing it does is initiate the USB output.  The hardware is not a problem, I think it is an Android problem but I can not find an option to look for a DAC on the USB.  I have gone through the audio config files also and there does not seem to be anything there.

Thanks for taking the time to respond,
Gerry
 jarro wrote:

Probably not sounds like that app is doing some things that has a lot of side effects.  Normally audio apps  are not aware of where the output is being routed.   Be it headphones,  bluetooth,  usb dac  etc.  

Might be some way to have USB audio player pro  auto start and do it's thing.   Maybe with the tasker app if it's not something the app can do on it's own.

 bevgerry wrote:
First I would like to say thank you for this app, it is fantastic! We use the app on a Android tv box for home listening with a USB output to a Emotiva XDA-2 DAC and the flac stream sounds fantastic on our stereo system. We have an old monitor connected so we can watch the slideshow.

The one problem we have is when first starting the system in the morning the USB audio does not work. It seems to be a issue with waking up or initializing the USB audio out. The workaround I have found is to open an app called USB audio player pro, it wakes up the USB audio out and acquires the DAC connection. I then shut it down and open RP app. Once  it is running it will stay connected until the system is shut down and then I need to go through the procedure again. I have tried re-plugging the USB cord and just about every other option I can think of but it seems it needs a software solution.

Would it be possible to have the RP app check for USB audio option on startup?

The reason why we prefer the android app is because of our spotty internet. The option to buffer ahead prevents skipping and drop outs.

TIA
Gerry


 


 


jarro

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Posted: Jan 9, 2020 - 9:10am


Probably not sounds like that app is doing some things that has a lot of side effects.  Normally audio apps  are not aware of where the output is being routed.   Be it headphones,  bluetooth,  usb dac  etc.  

Might be some way to have USB audio player pro  auto start and do it's thing.   Maybe with the tasker app if it's not something the app can do on it's own.

 bevgerry wrote:
First I would like to say thank you for this app, it is fantastic! We use the app on a Android tv box for home listening with a USB output to a Emotiva XDA-2 DAC and the flac stream sounds fantastic on our stereo system. We have an old monitor connected so we can watch the slideshow.

The one problem we have is when first starting the system in the morning the USB audio does not work. It seems to be a issue with waking up or initializing the USB audio out. The workaround I have found is to open an app called USB audio player pro, it wakes up the USB audio out and acquires the DAC connection. I then shut it down and open RP app. Once  it is running it will stay connected until the system is shut down and then I need to go through the procedure again. I have tried re-plugging the USB cord and just about every other option I can think of but it seems it needs a software solution.

Would it be possible to have the RP app check for USB audio option on startup?

The reason why we prefer the android app is because of our spotty internet. The option to buffer ahead prevents skipping and drop outs.

TIA
Gerry


 


jarro

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Posted: Jan 9, 2020 - 9:00am

It's one of those things that came up but didn't make it into the release.

You can get around it though with  chromecasts screen mirroring  feature.
Just mirror the phone   while playing from cache.

 rtrt wrote:
Playing around with casting and can only cast the live stream.

When I try to cast a block stored locally on my Amazon hd8, the audio switches to local playback with no interaction from me.

Seems like I should be able to cast any/all audio - no?
 


bevgerry

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Posted: Jan 9, 2020 - 6:43am

First I would like to say thank you for this app, it is fantastic! We use the app on a Android tv box for home listening with a USB output to a Emotiva XDA-2 DAC and the flac stream sounds fantastic on our stereo system. We have an old monitor connected so we can watch the slideshow.

The one problem we have is when first starting the system in the morning the USB audio does not work. It seems to be a issue with waking up or initializing the USB audio out. The workaround I have found is to open an app called USB audio player pro, it wakes up the USB audio out and acquires the DAC connection. I then shut it down and open RP app. Once  it is running it will stay connected until the system is shut down and then I need to go through the procedure again. I have tried re-plugging the USB cord and just about every other option I can think of but it seems it needs a software solution.

Would it be possible to have the RP app check for USB audio option on startup?

The reason why we prefer the android app is because of our spotty internet. The option to buffer ahead prevents skipping and drop outs.

TIA
Gerry


rtrt

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Posted: Jan 9, 2020 - 4:39am

Playing around with casting and can only cast the live stream.

When I try to cast a block stored locally on my Amazon hd8, the audio switches to local playback with no interaction from me.

Seems like I should be able to cast any/all audio - no?
jarro

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Posted: Dec 7, 2019 - 2:22am

The download issue is probably routing issues with the cache server.   You'll  find the connection more reliable during  certain times of the day.   We'll be trying to improve that.

Regarding the song info changes, that will probably get an overhaul at some point.   And the old version  is not  recommended as it will  stop working  in the near future.   It was the last RP app still using an older  system for managing song files that will be phased out.



 Contaminator wrote:
So, I just checked my phone and saw that after initial 12 hour block and aforementioned cache download issue I currently have 29 hours of music already downloaded and 769 songs on download pending. At the moment I will not resume download as 29 hours is more than enough for now, and also I do not want to overflow memory on my phone. Therefore, I gather that there was some kind of glitch but the download went on although I got notification mentioned in my previous comment. Maybe it is something worth looking in.

One other thing I really dislike is the new Song Info feature. Namely, in the previous app, when I downloaded cache block and listened to music offline I could see lyrics, song comment etc. Now when I listen cache block music offline when I click on the song all I get is the basic text info (artist, song name, album title, and rating). I hope this is some kind of temporary issue and that you will try to solve the problem and make song info and comments visible in offline mode as before. If not I would once again strongly urge you to make previous version of RP app available for download.
 


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Posted: Dec 6, 2019 - 11:32pm

So, I just checked my phone and saw that after initial 12 hour block and aforementioned cache download issue I currently have 29 hours of music already downloaded and 769 songs on download pending. At the moment I will not resume download as 29 hours is more than enough for now, and also I do not want to overflow memory on my phone. Therefore, I gather that there was some kind of glitch but the download went on although I got notification mentioned in my previous comment. Maybe it is something worth looking in.

One other thing I really dislike is the new Song Info feature. Namely, in the previous app, when I downloaded cache block and listened to music offline I could see lyrics, song comment etc. Now when I listen cache block music offline when I click on the song all I get is the basic text info (artist, song name, album title, and rating). I hope this is some kind of temporary issue and that you will try to solve the problem and make song info and comments visible in offline mode as before. If not I would once again strongly urge you to make previous version of RP app available for download.
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Posted: Dec 6, 2019 - 10:02am

Cache block issue still persists (can't make separate blocks). What's more, there is another issue with it: after I downloaded one block I tried to download another one but it can not be done (I get a notification on my phone to "Stop Filling Cache" which never happened before, and afterwards there is an additional notification  on RP's  app homepage which reads "Download error: connection timed out" although my internet connection is fine, so I guess that it might be a temporary thing with RP server in Europe). I'll keep my eye on this and will inform about it in the days to come.

jarro
, many thanks for adding Slideshow and Screen options, very useful. 

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Posted: Dec 5, 2019 - 1:37pm

This is a kudos post! I'm not going to ask for anything, I swear. (well, maybe one thing...)

I have always loved RP and enjoyed the simplicity of the last version of the Android app. That said, I did want a couple things changed. I wanted to be able to listen to the other fine radio feeds that were available on the website. I also wanted to choose whether or not the screen stayed on when the app was active.

I am absolutely thrilled that both those concerns have been addressed. In the process, the app has retained its simple and intuitive interface. It took a bit for me to figure out how to "go live" (Sync), which was my only concern with the new app. I'm now quite happy!

So what do I want? Please have the app open to the Bill & Rebecca desert picture as it did before! They are Radio Paradise, so they should be front and center, both in the app and in our minds while using it.

Thank you again!
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Posted: Dec 3, 2019 - 12:06pm

I've started a new topic for bluetooth metadata since it has and will be be an ongoing issue for years.  There are a few  things people have found that can help.
Will try to get some info for that organized.
https://radioparadise.com/comm...

Regarding the music app list,  I'm not sure how it  is generating that.   But  my hunch is  it is just the apps that  are registered to play digital audio files,  that shouldn't have any affect on metadata support.




 left_channel wrote:
Apparently my Toyota RAV4 EV is one that doesn't. When connected it lists Qobuz, Tidal, Google Play, VLC, and other music apps on my Android phone, but does not list the RP app even though I have played music from it over the Bluetooth several times, so it's no surprise it doesn't display metadata from RP. 

 jarro wrote:
That was tested a fair bit during beta and should be working.    But there are definitely  some stereo / phone combos  that  don't display metadata reliably / at all.


 left_channel wrote:
Much improved! Hope there's time for a feature request now: metadata over Bluetooth? When I play the app in my car, the console screen does not show station, album, or track.
 


 


 


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Posted: Dec 2, 2019 - 10:07pm


Thank you for these updates!



 jarro wrote:
A couple of updates have gone out over the past few days.   Currently  4.0.6  should be available to everyone on the play store.
Can check the current version via,  settings -> about

Changes in the new versions:
- fixes offline blocks failing to download after connectivity issues.
- fixes memory leak requiring app restart on some devices.
- fixes dpad navigation issues on older versions of Android TV.
- added option to disable the slideshow in landscape orientation.
- added screen options to override the screen off behavior.

 Laptopdog wrote:
Yeah, I'm not even seeing an option to uncheck the Slideshow, other than the Ken Burns Effect option.

I'm no coder, but it seems like it would be easy enough to add the option in the App Settings to allow for keeping the screen on when the app is open. If not in the app itself, but adding the option in the Notifications section once the app is downloaded. Just like how each phone allows you to turn Notifications on and off, the same could be done for keeping the screen on by checking a box. 

 Contaminator wrote:


 Laptopdog wrote:
Are there any plans to fix the app from not letting the phone go into sleep mode? That's been my main complaint, how the phone screen no longer stays on when the app is on. I can turn the phone sideways and it will play the slideshow and stay on, but other than giving the song and artist name in faint white letters, barely visible on the screen, it shows nothing else. I really enjoyed glancing at my phone to see which artist was playing, the album cover, whether I had already rated the song, etc.

Maybe I'm the only one missing this feature, but it was a big part of the appeal of listening to RP for me.

 
You are not alone. I've posted a comment about a few bugs 4 days ago - sleep mode issue also mentioned - but still no answer from jarro. Updated app today, photo slideshow still appears although I've unchecked Slideshow option.
 


 


 


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Posted: Dec 2, 2019 - 1:15pm

Apparently my Toyota RAV4 EV is one that doesn't. When connected it lists Qobuz, Tidal, Google Play, VLC, and other music apps on my Android phone, but does not list the RP app even though I have played music from it over the Bluetooth several times, so it's no surprise it doesn't display metadata from RP. 

 jarro wrote:
That was tested a fair bit during beta and should be working.    But there are definitely  some stereo / phone combos  that  don't display metadata reliably / at all.


 left_channel wrote:
Much improved! Hope there's time for a feature request now: metadata over Bluetooth? When I play the app in my car, the console screen does not show station, album, or track.
 


 


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Posted: Dec 2, 2019 - 11:34am

Same with my vehicle. Old version showed the info, new one does not. Same phone - Note 8

 jarro wrote:
That was tested a fair bit during beta and should be working.    But there are definitely  some stereo / phone combos  that  don't display metadata reliably / at all.


 left_channel wrote:
Much improved! Hope there's time for a feature request now: metadata over Bluetooth? When I play the app in my car, the console screen does not show station, album, or track.
 


 


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Posted: Dec 2, 2019 - 11:33am

Update successful. Everything working as it should. Thanks!!

 jarro wrote:
I believe this is fixed in the last update.   4.0.6
Can check the current version via, settings -> about

Can  try to update manually  if the automatic update is taking too long.


 Southern_Boy wrote:
I installed it from the play store. I have a Sony XBR.

 


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Posted: Dec 2, 2019 - 9:59am

That was tested a fair bit during beta and should be working.    But there are definitely  some stereo / phone combos  that  don't display metadata reliably / at all.


 left_channel wrote:
Much improved! Hope there's time for a feature request now: metadata over Bluetooth? When I play the app in my car, the console screen does not show station, album, or track.
 


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