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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 5:06pm

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How are you going to fix these problems that are causing the migrants to migrate in the first place without going to war to force a different system (new government that actually works properly) on the country in question citizens ?


What about Mexico which has become a NARCO state ?  Nobody crosses our southern border without paying the $10 k toll to the cartels.  With a very safe estimate of 10 million crossings under Biden's authority that comes out to $100 billion in a little over 3 years.  I don't care who or what you are, that's a lot of money. And its all cash. That does not even count the income from drugs. Its just from the human trafficking.  How do you take them out ?  And this is just Mexico.

The cartels are scaring the bejeezus out of the citizenry so they want to flee to the good ole US and be safe(r).  Guess who collects the toll to cross the bridge to safety ?  This isn't about migration.  Its about human trafficking and Biden is the enabler leaving the border wide open to let the cartels succeed.  Biden gets chaos out of the deal to force authoritarian "solutions" and the cartels get cash.  A win / win for both sides.

Or did I miss something ?

Like the US has ever forced a system of government that actually works properly on any country in the Americas. Done in a few that were starting to work well, though. 

If you want to start solving the problem, Marshall Plan the shit out of the place. Help develop a thriving economy entwined to benefit all of N America, Like the pre-trump free trade agreement was set up to do. 

Oh, and stop being the number one supplier of arms to the cartels.

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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 12:50pm

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dunno how to get the embedded pic to show, which is where the meat is...

Just add the image separately and like any other image:

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dunno how to get the embedded pic to show, which is where the meat is...
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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 11:57am

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Well, duh ...  It is the crack that keeps the addicted victims passive.

You benefit economically. Like subsidized gas. Cheap bananas. But at a deferred (real) cost.

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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 11:50am

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That's how you get cheap meat/vegetables/fruit/labor. Consider it a subsidy. Like poverty or hunger, if there was a desire to fix the problem, it would be fixed. Instead it brings net benefits (to some).
 
Well, duh ...  It is the crack that keeps the addicted victims passive.

People stay in power by managing problems, not by fixing them. 

No problems to manage ?  Create some, aka general chaos ... 

Poly Science 101.  aka rules for radicals ...
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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 11:20am

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Sorry, this is 100% my own personal argument, not someone else's.

This is modern day human slavery we are talking about.  This is criminal behaviour, not bad government.  The cartels get the government they pay for.

That's how you get cheap meat/vegetables/fruit/labor. Consider it a subsidy. Like poverty or hunger, if there was a desire to fix the problem, it would be fixed. Instead it brings net benefits (to some).

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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 11:04am

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 kurtster wrote:
whooooshhhh ...

The sound of ignoring the (original) argument. Instead there's a Fox transcript.
 
Sorry, this is 100% my own personal argument, not someone else's.

This is modern day human slavery we are talking about.  This is criminal behaviour, not bad government.  The cartels get the government they pay for.

Hard to see how someone so well versed in history from a country that ran the African slave trade not understanding this.

Holland's greatest export commodity used to be slaves.

While the Dutch wouldn't allow domestic slave ownership, they had no problem going to Africa, capturing the slaves and exporting them to where ever.

You might have more to live down than Americans do when it comes down to slavery.

Just sayin'
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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 10:13am

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whooooshhhh ...

The sound of ignoring the (original) argument. Instead there's a Fox transcript.

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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 10:03am

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 Sounds like you want more wars/coups. Muh sovereignty!
 
whooooshhhh ...
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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 10:01am

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How are you going to fix these problems that are causing the migrants to migrate in the first place without going to war to force a different system (new government that actually works properly) on the country in question citizens ?

What about Mexico which has become a NARCO state ?  Nobody crosses our southern border without paying the $10 k toll to the cartels.  With a very safe estimate of 10 million crossings under Biden's authority that comes out to $100 billion in a little over 3 years.  I don't care who or what you are, that's a lot of money. And its all cash. That does not even count the income from drugs. Its just from the human trafficking.  How do you take them out ?  And this is just Mexico.

The cartels are scaring the bejeezus out of the citizenry so they want to flee to the good ole US and be safe(r).  Guess who collects the toll to cross the bridge to safety ?  This isn't about migration.  Its about human trafficking and Biden is the enabler leaving the border wide open to let the cartels succeed.  Biden gets chaos out of the deal to force authoritarian "solutions" and the cartels get cash.  A win / win for both sides.

Or did I miss something ?

Sounds like you want more wars/coups. Muh sovereignty!

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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 9:58am

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How are you going to fix these problems that are causing the migrants to migrate in the first place without going to war to force a different system (new government that actually works properly) on the country in question citizens ?

What about Mexico which has become a NARCO state ?  Nobody crosses our southern border without paying the $10 k toll to the cartels.  With a very safe estimate of 10 million crossings under Biden's authority that comes out to $100 billion in a little over 3 years.  I don't care who or what you are, that's a lot of money. And its all cash. That does not even count the income from drugs. Its just from the human trafficking.  How do you take them out ?  And this is just Mexico.

The cartels are scaring the bejeezus out of the citizenry so they want to flee to the good ole US and be safe(r).  Guess who collects the toll to cross the bridge to safety ?  This isn't about migration.  Its about human trafficking and Biden is the enabler leaving the border wide open to let the cartels succeed.  Biden gets chaos out of the deal to force authoritarian "solutions" and the cartels get cash.  A win / win for both sides.

Or did I miss something ?
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Posted: Feb 8, 2024 - 2:07pm

Surge in Immigration Will Boost U.S. Economy, Congressional Budget Office Says

The surge in immigration will help bolster the U.S. economy by about $7 trillion over the next decade by swelling the labor force and increasing demand, the Congressional Budget Office said on Wednesday.

The stronger growth will be good for the federal government, lifting revenues by about $1 trillion more than otherwise over the period, according to the non-partisan agency. Wages, however, will rise more slowly, in part reflecting the increase in the number of lower skilled workers, in the CBO’s estimation.

“Increases in the population boost the demand for goods, services, and housing,” the CBO said in its budget and economic outlook for the next 10 years. “They also expand the productive capacity of the economy by increasing the size of the labor force.”

Read More: The Conservative Case for Immigration

The increased migration stems mainly from people entering the U.S. illegally and from those released by Customs and Border Protection officials with humanitarian parole or with a notice to appear before an immigration judge. After a lag, many of those migrants join the labor force.

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The CBO report underscores some of the economic advantages that can be gained from increased immigration — a point that Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell made in a CBS News 60 Minutes interview broadcast on Feb. 4.

“The U.S. economy has benefited from immigration” over time, Powell said, while stressing that he wasn’t telling Congress what should be done regarding the issue.

Read More: All American Families Have Stories of Illegal Immigration

The CBO projects that the increase in immigration will lift the growth of inflation-adjusted gross domestic product by an average of 0.2 percentage points a year from 2024 to 2034, leaving it roughly 2% larger in 2034 than otherwise.

In its report, the CBO raised its estimate of the labor force in 2033 by 5.2 million people, mostly because of higher net inflows from outside the country.

The expanded workforce will put downward pressure on average inflation-adjusted wages, according to the agency. That effect is projected to partly reverse after 2027, but wages are still expected to be slightly lower than otherwise in 2034 in the CBO’s estimation.

Wages are depressed in part because many migrants are expected to work in lower-paying jobs, thus lowering the average salary. But an increase in the supply of labor also plays a role, according to the report.



SEE ALSO:

Director’s Statement on the Budget and Economic Outlook for 2024 to 2034

https://www.cbo.gov/publicatio...



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Posted: Jan 19, 2024 - 8:16am

Hmm, maybe some folks are starting to think?

DENVER (KDVR) — The influx of migrants coming to the United States continues in cities and states across the nation, and Denver Mayor Mike Johnston is continuing to push the issue in the nation’s capital.

Thursday, Johnston was joined by some familiar faces to press the issue in Washington. Denver’s mayor has been calling for more resources for migrants over the past few months, along with other mayors across the nation.

Members of Congress joined Johnston to call on their colleagues to do better.

“Denver, like many cities in America, is a vibrant, thriving city full of generous folks who want to see everyone succeed. We are also a city right now that is facing a humanitarian crisis and fiscal crisis unlike anything we’ve seen in the last 25 years,” Johnston said on Capitol Hill Thursday.

The Mile High City is hitting an inflection point — since December 2022 the city has received 37,714 migrants from the Texas-Mexico border. Johnston and most of Colorado’s Democratic congressional delegation stressed to the nation that Denver is reaching its breaking point with funding for the crisis.

“Without some intervention or support, the city of Denver is looking at a $180 million budget in 2024 to meet the needs of folks that are arriving in our cities in cold like this,” the mayor explained. “We are not willing to let folks be homeless on the streets of our city with kids in tents in 10-degree weather. But without some support, that $180 million would look like a 10% cut of our entire budget across the city.”

Johnston called on the federal government for better pathways to citizenship including faster work authorizations, more federal resources and proper guidance for states and cities.

Colorado members of Congress backed the Denver mayor up, calling for Congress to put aside partisan games to get a better federal system in place.

“We have the Senate and the House with different leadership and different majorities. You have to be able to come together and pass it in both chambers and find compromise like we do in Colorado,” said U.S. Rep. Brittany Pettersen.

U.S. Sen. Michael Bennet has long been an advocate for immigration reform, saying the nation cannot fault what local governments are doing to address migrants when the federal government has not done its part.

“What an irrational system to be one where people are coming here and then there is no ability for them to work,” Bennet said. “It’s as if the country is insisting that you be on the public dole, insisting that you can’t support your family. That’s not the situation Denver wants, that’s not the situation Colorado wants.”

Bennet said work authorizations have to be a part of any package Congress passes, but getting any agreement in Congress is easier said than done these days.



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Posted: Jan 11, 2024 - 2:16pm

Just problems, and money is the only solution right?
There's plenty of work for them...make them work for their supper and get their lives sorted. 

Right now, the latest data shows that we have 9.5 million job openings in the U.S., but only 6.5 million unemployed workers.


We have a lot of jobs, but not enough workers to fill them. If every unemployed person in the country found a job, we would still have over 2 million open jobs.

https://www.uschamber.com/work...



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