How are you going to fix these problems that are causing the migrants to migrate in the first place without going to war to force a different system (new government that actually works properly) on the country in question citizens ?
What about Mexico which has become a NARCO state ? Nobody crosses our southern border without paying the $10 k toll to the cartels. With a very safe estimate of 10 million crossings under Biden's authority that comes out to $100 billion in a little over 3 years. I don't care who or what you are, that's a lot of money. And its all cash. That does not even count the income from drugs. Its just from the human trafficking. How do you take them out ? And this is just Mexico.
The cartels are scaring the bejeezus out of the citizenry so they want to flee to the good ole US and be safe(r). Guess who collects the toll to cross the bridge to safety ? This isn't about migration. Its about human trafficking and Biden is the enabler leaving the border wide open to let the cartels succeed. Biden gets chaos out of the deal to force authoritarian "solutions" and the cartels get cash. A win / win for both sides.
Or did I miss something ?
Like the US has ever forced a system of government that actually works properly on any country in the Americas. Done in a few that were starting to work well, though.
If you want to start solving the problem, Marshall Plan the shit out of the place. Help develop a thriving economy entwined to benefit all of N America, Like the pre-trump free trade agreement was set up to do.
Oh, and stop being the number one supplier of arms to the cartels.
This is what the English courts have been confronting, making use of legislation easily recognisable on either side of the Atlantic. Whatever Chairman Musk and his Twitter army of bots and bloviators might wish to try to get you to believe. pic.twitter.com/PEQlY8i5GB
This is what the English courts have been confronting, making use of legislation easily recognisable on either side of the Atlantic. Whatever Chairman Musk and his Twitter army of bots and bloviators might wish to try to get you to believe. pic.twitter.com/PEQlY8i5GB
That's how you get cheap meat/vegetables/fruit/labor. Consider it a subsidy. Like poverty or hunger, if there was a desire to fix the problem, it would be fixed. Instead it brings net benefits (to some).
Well, duh ... It is the crack that keeps the addicted victims passive.
People stay in power by managing problems, not by fixing them.
No problems to manage ? Create some, aka general chaos ...
Sorry, this is 100% my own personal argument, not someone else's.
This is modern day human slavery we are talking about. This is criminal behaviour, not bad government. The cartels get the government they pay for.
That's how you get cheap meat/vegetables/fruit/labor. Consider it a subsidy. Like poverty or hunger, if there was a desire to fix the problem, it would be fixed. Instead it brings net benefits (to some).
How are you going to fix these problems that are causing the migrants to migrate in the first place without going to war to force a different system (new government that actually works properly) on the country in question citizens ?
What about Mexico which has become a NARCO state ? Nobody crosses our southern border without paying the $10 k toll to the cartels. With a very safe estimate of 10 million crossings under Biden's authority that comes out to $100 billion in a little over 3 years. I don't care who or what you are, that's a lot of money. And its all cash. That does not even count the income from drugs. Its just from the human trafficking. How do you take them out ? And this is just Mexico.
The cartels are scaring the bejeezus out of the citizenry so they want to flee to the good ole US and be safe(r). Guess who collects the toll to cross the bridge to safety ? This isn't about migration. Its about human trafficking and Biden is the enabler leaving the border wide open to let the cartels succeed. Biden gets chaos out of the deal to force authoritarian "solutions" and the cartels get cash. A win / win for both sides.
Or did I miss something ?
Sounds like you want more wars/coups. Muh sovereignty!
R_P wrote: How are you going to fix these problems that are causing the migrants to migrate in the first place without going to war to force a different system (new government that actually works properly) on the country in question citizens ?
What about Mexico which has become a NARCO state ? Nobody crosses our southern border without paying the $10 k toll to the cartels. With a very safe estimate of 10 million crossings under Biden's authority that comes out to $100 billion in a little over 3 years. I don't care who or what you are, that's a lot of money. And its all cash. That does not even count the income from drugs. Its just from the human trafficking. How do you take them out ? And this is just Mexico.
The cartels are scaring the bejeezus out of the citizenry so they want to flee to the good ole US and be safe(r). Guess who collects the toll to cross the bridge to safety ? This isn't about migration. Its about human trafficking and Biden is the enabler leaving the border wide open to let the cartels succeed. Biden gets chaos out of the deal to force authoritarian "solutions" and the cartels get cash. A win / win for both sides.
The surge in immigration will help bolster the U.S. economy by about $7 trillion over the next decade by swelling the labor force and increasing demand, the Congressional Budget Office said on Wednesday.
The stronger growth will be good for the federal government, lifting revenues by about $1 trillion more than otherwise over the period, according to the non-partisan agency. Wages, however, will rise more slowly, in part reflecting the increase in the number of lower skilled workers, in the CBOâs estimation.
âIncreases in the population boost the demand for goods, services, and housing,â the CBO said in its budget and economic outlook for the next 10 years. âThey also expand the productive capacity of the economy by increasing the size of the labor force.â
The increased migration stems mainly from people entering the U.S. illegally and from those released by Customs and Border Protection officials with humanitarian parole or with a notice to appear before an immigration judge. After a lag, many of those migrants join the labor force.
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The CBO report underscores some of the economic advantages that can be gained from increased immigration â a point that Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell made in a CBS News 60 Minutes interview broadcast on Feb. 4.
âThe U.S. economy has benefited from immigrationâ over time, Powell said, while stressing that he wasnât telling Congress what should be done regarding the issue.
The CBO projects that the increase in immigration will lift the growth of inflation-adjusted gross domestic product by an average of 0.2 percentage points a year from 2024 to 2034, leaving it roughly 2% larger in 2034 than otherwise.
In its report, the CBO raised its estimate of the labor force in 2033 by 5.2 million people, mostly because of higher net inflows from outside the country.
The expanded workforce will put downward pressure on average inflation-adjusted wages, according to the agency. That effect is projected to partly reverse after 2027, but wages are still expected to be slightly lower than otherwise in 2034 in the CBOâs estimation.
Wages are depressed in part because many migrants are expected to work in lower-paying jobs, thus lowering the average salary. But an increase in the supply of labor also plays a role, according to the report.
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DENVER (KDVR) â The influx of migrants coming to the United States continues in cities and states across the nation, and Denver Mayor Mike Johnston is continuing to push the issue in the nationâs capital.
Thursday, Johnston was joined by some familiar faces to press the issue in Washington. Denverâs mayor has been calling for more resources for migrants over the past few months, along with other mayors across the nation.
Members of Congress joined Johnston to call on their colleagues to do better.
âDenver, like many cities in America, is a vibrant, thriving city full of generous folks who want to see everyone succeed. We are also a city right now that is facing a humanitarian crisis and fiscal crisis unlike anything weâve seen in the last 25 years,â Johnston said on Capitol Hill Thursday.
The Mile High City is hitting an inflection point â since December 2022 the city has received 37,714 migrants from the Texas-Mexico border. Johnston and most of Coloradoâs Democratic congressional delegation stressed to the nation that Denver is reaching its breaking point with funding for the crisis.
âWithout some intervention or support, the city of Denver is looking at a $180 million budget in 2024 to meet the needs of folks that are arriving in our cities in cold like this,â the mayor explained. âWe are not willing to let folks be homeless on the streets of our city with kids in tents in 10-degree weather. But without some support, that $180 million would look like a 10% cut of our entire budget across the city.â
Johnston called on the federal government for better pathways to citizenship including faster work authorizations, more federal resourcesand proper guidance for states and cities.
Colorado members of Congress backed the Denver mayor up, calling for Congress to put aside partisan games to get a better federal system in place.
âWe have the Senate and the House with different leadership and different majorities. You have to be able to come together and pass it in both chambers and find compromise like we do in Colorado,â said U.S. Rep. Brittany Pettersen.
U.S. Sen. Michael Bennet has long been an advocate for immigration reform, saying the nation cannot fault what local governments are doing to address migrants when the federal government has not done its part.
âWhat an irrational system to be one where people are coming here and then there is no ability for them to work,â Bennet said. âItâs as if the country is insisting that you be on the public dole, insisting that you canât support your family. Thatâs not the situation Denver wants, thatâs not the situation Colorado wants.â
Bennet said work authorizations have to be a part of any package Congress passes, but getting any agreement in Congress is easier said than done these days.
Just problems, and money is the only solution right?
There's plenty of work for them...make them work for their supper and get their lives sorted.
Right now, the latest data shows that we have 9.5 million job openings in the U.S., but only 6.5 million unemployed workers.
We have a lot of jobs, but not enough workers to fill them. If every unemployed person in the country found a job, we would still have over 2 million open jobs.
I'm pretty open minded when it comes to immigration, but this situation is getting out of control.
The irresponsible responses from of republican states shipping people to democratic cities...and the lack of a response from the feds to attempt to coordinate any of this?
How or whether we should control immigration is one thing, and while I do believe most of the people coming up from the south are interested in building a better life,
I'm not sure US taxpayers should be on the hook for essentially funding their migration and providing public housing.
Shouldn't they have the means to support themselves before entry?
DENVER (KDVR) â Denver Mayor Mike Johnston told FOX31 the migrant crisis could cost the city $180 million this year, and now heâs asking city departments to slash up to 15% from their budgets to cover the cost.
Johnston sat for an exclusive interview with FOX31 and talked about what this means for city services.
Just hours after Johnston broke the news to the city council, he explained the details as FOX31 rode with him around downtown Denver on a tour of cleaned-up encampment sites.
âFor people that arenât familiar with the budget, $180 million is about 10 or 15 percent of the city budget,â Johnston said.
So where will these cuts come from?
âAs a department head, your goal is always how to find the things you can cut that donât directly impact services as much as possible. We donât want to close down rec centers or stop picking up trash or paving the streets or take officers off the streets, so we gotta prioritize that,â Johnston said. âSo what theyâll do now is take a hard look at their budgets and see what their options are, and weâll go back and look at them and see what we can do without trying to directly impact the city as much as possible.â
$180 million: Thatâs more than the entire budget for the Parks and Recreation department and more than the entire budget for the cityâs housing and homelessness efforts all combined. And the news comes as the influx of migrants grows.
As of Tuesday night, more than 4,800 migrants were being temporarily housed by the city. More than 37,000 have been transported to Denver in the last year, and the cityâs already paid $38 million to respond to the crisis.
If things donât change, 2024âs bill will be a behemoth.
How will Denver manage the migrant influx?
In New York, theyâre seeking legal remedies, like going after the bus companies that bring migrants to the city. Is Denver pursuing anything similar, perhaps versus the governor of Texas, who has bused migrants to the city?
âWeâre not pursuing legal action to sue them. Weâre trying to figure out how to work together,â Johnston said. âYou know, Iâve reached out to the governor of Texas to say we understand that you donât think Texas can manage all of this inflow on your own. We agree â Denver canât handle it all on our own. Letâs partner together on how to manage this system in the same way we have for other asylum seekers. So weâre looking at how to solve the problem, not how to pick a bigger fight.â
The other crisis: The city is out of room. Every room that can be used for sheltering migrants in the city and county of Denver is now full. There is no space for new migrant arrivals and no staff or resources to support them if and when they come.
The mayor said without the help of neighboring cities, budget cuts might have to go even deeper if the crisis worsens â and it is not letting up. Seven more buses of migrants arrived in Denver over the weekend.
Options going forward include offering arriving migrants a ticket out of town or hoping they have friends or family to stay with while theyâre here.