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Posted: Jul 10, 2020 - 7:05am

It seems the wall of separation has completely disappeared...
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Posted: Mar 20, 2014 - 8:30am

Constitutionally ignorant elected officials in action.

Tennessee Legislature Creates Bill that Violates First Amendment
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Posted: Jan 21, 2014 - 1:00pm

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Redistricting is done every ten years after the census, and it's generally done by the state legislatures, not Congress. And neither party has been shy about gerrymandering: the term was invented to describe the actions of the Democratic-Republican party (the forerunner of the modern Democratic Party) in Massachusetts.

 
In Texas they (GOP) decided to redistrict whenever they feel like it. Even if Dems make inroads in the state (hey, it could happen), the districts will remain solidly GOP. For example, the City of Austin is diced up by at least five districts, in an attempt to unseat Lloyd Doggett. The GOP in Texas has been trying to get rid of him for many years, with no success.
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Posted: Jan 21, 2014 - 12:57pm

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this guy does a great job on this so i thought i'd embed the entire constitutional playlist

well worth your time


 
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Posted: Jul 31, 2013 - 7:48pm

Apathy ... its milk for the toast ...
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Posted: Jul 31, 2013 - 7:06pm

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it is what it is, my friend. that document has been dead and trampled on since long before either of us were born. they still pay it lip service for appearances.

 
*bump*
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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 10:08am

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Well, right now it's the Republicans that have a stranglehold on Congress.

 
Redistricting is done every ten years after the census, and it's generally done by the state legislatures, not Congress. And neither party has been shy about gerrymandering: the term was invented to describe the actions of the Democratic-Republican party (the forerunner of the modern Democratic Party) in Massachusetts.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 9:30am

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Both parties have done that. No reason to blame the Republicans for playing the same game the Democrats do.

 
Well, right now it's the Republicans that have a stranglehold on Congress.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 8:08am

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No reason that incumbents can't get voted out.

The biggest problem is that the Republicans have gerrymandered their districts so that a Republican will always get reelected.  

 
Both parties have done that. No reason to blame the Republicans for playing the same game the Democrats do.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 7:58am

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Term limits are the only way that will ever happen.

Ask yourself, who are the most opposed to term limits ?

 
No reason that incumbents can't get voted out.

The biggest problem is that the Republicans have gerrymandered their districts so that a Republican will always get reelected.  
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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 7:54am

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Then we can vote these people out of office. We get the government we deserve, right?

 
Term limits are the only way that will ever happen.

Ask yourself, who are the most opposed to term limits ?
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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 7:48am

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Law interpreted by executives, senators, "representatives" & judges that are wholly owned by the corporations that put them in office.

 
Then we can vote these people out of office. We get the government we deserve, right?
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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 7:45am

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You are mistaken; we do. It may be dysfunctional, but we are still a nation of laws, not a nation of anarchy.


 
Law interpreted by executives, senators, "representatives" & judges that are wholly owned by the corporations that put them in office.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 7:34am

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we don't have a constitutional government now

 
You are mistaken; we do. It may be dysfunctional, but we are still a nation of laws, not a nation of anarchy.

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we're fools if we think we can get virtuous and ethical results from a immoral and corrupt system allowing individuals with means and power to act in their own self interest, unfettered by any practical and enforceable restraint

history has shown that that will never ever happen

  FYT

Interestingly, this was shown last night on PBS:

Triangle Fire

The paradox of human behavior: towards the end of the show, they noted that after the fire, the same policemen who (along with prostitutes who had also been hired by the owners) had beaten these factory workers for demonstrating for higher wages, shorter hours, safer working conditions, and the right to organize, leaned out of windows on each floor of the building to make sure the bodies didn't bang against the side of the building as they were lowered by block and tackle to the ground below.


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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 7:22am

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The biggest difference between Obama and W Cheney is that Obama is not interested in World Domination. Cheney appointed himself VP, hand picked Bush's entire cabinet, and whether or not they created 9/11, used the event for their own gain.

See the difference? 

 

No.{#Lol}
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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 7:22am

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Well, then, we can talk about the Cheney "presidency", if you like.  The Faustian bargain that we entered into after 9/11, giving up some freedom in exchange for the promise of security, was initiated during his "presidency", and has been continued during Obama's, to my great frustration and disappointment.

 

That is an accurate statement.  I have never understood why Cheney would ever criticize Obama, Obama is acting like the child Cheney never had, seems rather hypocritical. Maybe that is the problem though, Cheney is jealous because Obama is outperforming him in his neocon agenda.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 7:21am

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Well, then, we can talk about the Cheney "presidency", if you like.  The Faustian bargain that we entered into after 9/11, giving up some freedom in exchange for the promise of security, was initiated during his "presidency", and has been continued during Obama's, to my great frustration and disappointment.

 
The biggest difference between Obama and W Cheney is that Obama is not interested in World Domination. Cheney appointed himself VP, hand picked Bush's entire cabinet, and whether or not they created 9/11, used the event for their own gain.

See the difference? 
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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 7:15am

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This is 2013, I barely remember Bush. It would behoove us all to realize Bush barely made any decisions when he was President, he sure as heck ain't making any now.

 
Well, then, we can talk about the Cheney "presidency", if you like.  The Faustian bargain that we entered into after 9/11, giving up some freedom in exchange for the promise of security, was initiated during his "presidency", and has been continued during Obama's, to my great frustration and disappointment.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 6:03am

 kurtster wrote:

and what has changed since then ?

 
Obama doesn't make up stories to get us into a 10 year war. He hasn't used a national tragedy to line his own pockets.


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Posted: Apr 25, 2013 - 6:01am

 hippiechick wrote:

Yeah, with total and complete lies! 

 
and what has changed since then ?
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