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Posted: Oct 17, 2021 - 4:22pm

 haresfur wrote:
I thought that the US had laws where they could prevent people from profiting from stuff like this.

Son of Sam law
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Posted: Oct 17, 2021 - 3:10pm

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I thought that the US had laws where they could prevent people from profiting from stuff like this.

By 'US' you mean the country where everybody is suing the hell out of each other as a means of becoming rich, I guess?

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Posted: Oct 17, 2021 - 3:04pm

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I thought that the US had laws where they could prevent people from profiting from stuff like this.
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Posted: Oct 15, 2021 - 7:56pm

Mark Robinson Exposes the GOP’s Problem With Its Base
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Posted: Oct 15, 2021 - 4:35am

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 A tiny step in a long process and I expect that congress will lose interest and ultimately cave.
 
i think i agree
we've got real issues that real leadership would attend to
however, the masses want their pound of flesh
even if it is show trial/kabuki theater
it's great suction for media tho

hyman roth would probably say he's "small potatoes"
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Posted: Oct 14, 2021 - 4:31pm

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A tiny step in a long process and I expect that congress will lose interest and ultimately cave.

I doubt Congress will let Bannon go.  That would, among other things, not work to the politcal advantage of the Democrats.

In other countries, he and many others would already be in jail.

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Posted: Oct 14, 2021 - 4:20pm

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The American government is intact against an attempted overthrow of the Congress. It must punish those who planned, encouraged, and abetted the seditionists no matter how self-righteous they are.

Now, some people were encouraged to ignore lawful subpoenas. To be clear: in order to protect himself and those around him the former President is publicly encouraging his associates to defy Congressional subpoenas. This is lieu of them appearing and making a cogent, thoughtful argument as to their actions. Why? Because they are reprehensible and unsupportable - and they're aware of that.

If you're an American that believes in the power of Congress, then it's an easy call: lock him up.

January 6 panel moves to hold Steve Bannon in criminal contempt









A tiny step in a long process and I expect that congress will lose interest and ultimately cave.
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Posted: Oct 14, 2021 - 3:48pm

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Posted: Oct 14, 2021 - 3:12pm

The American government is intact against an attempted overthrow of the Congress. It must punish those who planned, encouraged, and abetted the seditionists no matter how self-righteous they are.

Now, some people were encouraged to ignore lawful subpoenas. To be clear: in order to protect himself and those around him the former President is publicly encouraging his associates to defy Congressional subpoenas. This is lieu of them appearing and making a cogent, thoughtful argument as to their actions. Why? Because they are reprehensible and unsupportable - and they're aware of that.

If you're an American that believes in the power of Congress, then it's an easy call: lock him up.

January 6 panel moves to hold Steve Bannon in criminal contempt







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Posted: Oct 13, 2021 - 5:42pm

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? c'mon peeps channel your inner pollyanna!


Pollyanna principle

The name derives from the 1913 novel Pollyanna by Eleanor H. Porter describing a girl who plays the "glad game"—trying to find something to be glad about in every situation. The novel has been adapted to film several times, most famously in 1920 and 1960. An early use of the name "Pollyanna" in psychological literature was in 1969 by Boucher and Osgood who described a Pollyanna hypothesis as a universal human tendency to use positive words more frequently and diversely than negative words in communicating.<3> Empirical evidence for this tendency has been provided by computational analyses of large corpora of text.<4><5>The story of Pollyanna is about an orphaned little girl, who is sent to live with her Aunt Polly, who is known for being stiff, strict, and proper. When thrown into this environment, Pollyanna seeks to keep and spread her optimism to others. This beloved literary character’s story shares the message that despite how hard things may seem, a sunny disposition can turn anyone and anything around.
Positivity bias is the part of the Pollyanna principle that attributes reasons to why people may choose positivity over negative or realistic mindsets. In positive psychology, it is broken down into three ideas: positive illusions, self deception, and optimism.<9> Having a positive bias increases with age, as it is more prevalent in adults approaching older adulthood than younger children or adolescents.<10> Older adults tend to pay attention to positive information, and this could be due to a specific focus in cognitive processing. In studies compiled by Andrew Reed and Laura Carstensen, they found that older adults (in comparison to younger adults) purposefully directed their attention away from negative material.


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Posted: Oct 13, 2021 - 1:05pm

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? c'mon peeps channel your inner pollyanna!

 
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Posted: Oct 13, 2021 - 11:52am

? c'mon peeps channel your inner pollyanna!

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Posted: Oct 13, 2021 - 10:14am

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Presidents have little power to influence prices of gas and other fuels. Biden did not cause our powerful hurricane season which knocked a lot of oil refineries off line. He also did not cause the disruption in oil supplies caused by cyber attacks on East Coast pipelines. 

AFAICT we are also seeing a lagging response in gas production that has not caught up with increased demand for gas over the summer. 

The US has long sat on its fat ass when it comes to improving the fuel economy of ICE autos. Yes we made good progress at first but I don't recall seeing recent increases in required mpg standards. And the light truck loophole has allowed Americans to ignore such standards and drive SUV gas hogs. 

As for subsidization of electric cars: I ask you to remember that humans around the world are in 

DEEP TROUBLE 

when it comes to global warming. If we don't subsidize electric cars, chargers, batteries, etc, we are not going to transition away from gas-powered cars quickly enough to save the planet. 

Deep Trouble-wise, I don't think there's anything we puny humans can do at this point. Sure electric cars and renewable energy are great, but you still have to expend a LOT of energy to produce them. We occasionally see wind turbine blades on the highway - at least one big rig, plus leading and trailing scout trucks, all burning diesel. Not to mention making the blades themselves - often in China where they're still burning coal like it's going out of style (it is). Solar panels are energy-intensive too, and not all that efficient.

Don't get me wrong, I am not against those things. They're just not the magic bullet. Consider the energy used for air conditioning and heating - are we going to eliminate air conditioning and central heating? We'd have to change our whole lifestyles - every house, every office, would require redesign for passive cooling and heating. Sure it's possible, but is it reasonable to expect people to give up those luxuries we've taken for granted for nearly 100 years (give or take)? Go back to sleeping on the porch? Here in Texas it might get down to 85F some summer nights. A few years ago we had 90 days over 100F - there were some deaths. Not to mention the snowpocalypse this past February - roughly 200 people died because the power went out.

So yeah, subsidies for electric cars and solar installations are fine, but we can't pretend they'll fix everything - if anything at all. Our innovations and lifestyles are the real culprits. It's just not possible to make people go back to trolleycars and pre-HVAC days - until Mother Nature forces it on us. Which I see as a certainty, no matter what - it's just a matter of time.
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Posted: Oct 13, 2021 - 6:14am

Ok, just a comment to clarify a prior comment on the CDC.  Saying they weren't built to handle a pandemic is not the equivalent of saying they are incompetent boobs. 
But it's worth noting they're a bureaucracy,  which often takes a more conservative position, and moves slow to change.  There are other areas where they have not progressed, at the cost of the patient.
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Posted: Oct 12, 2021 - 10:13pm

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I'm with you on some of the other stuff on fuel costs and supporting the wrong people. But here I can't help but say WHAT?  CAFE standards were HUGE in improving the efficiency of cars. And remember when we had 49 state cars and California cars? That was in response to California emissions regulations, but the market and economics spoke and now car makers make nearly everything to California's standards.  The free market was leading us to worse outcomes (because they were cheaper), but government regulations resulted in more efficient cars and eventually the automakers caught up and managed to make good(sometimes) cars that also met environmental (and safety) standards.   And oil/fossil fuels have been subsidized for decades (and they continue to be), I'm not really for electrical subsidies per se, but saying our energy market is 'free' is laughable. 


Presidents have little power to influence prices of gas and other fuels. Biden did not cause our powerful hurricane season which knocked a lot of oil refineries off line. He also did not cause the disruption in oil supplies caused by cyber attacks on East Coast pipelines. 

AFAICT we are also seeing a lagging response in gas production that has not caught up with increased demand for gas over the summer. 

The US has long sat on its fat ass when it comes to improving the fuel economy of ICE autos. Yes we made good progress at first but I don't recall seeing recent increases in required mpg standards. And the light truck loophole has allowed Americans to ignore such standards and drive SUV gas hogs. 

As for subsidization of electric cars: I ask you to remember that humans around the world are in 

DEEP TROUBLE 



when it comes to global warming. If we don't subsidize electric cars, chargers, batteries, etc, we are not going to transition away from gas-powered cars quickly enough to save the planet. 

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Posted: Oct 12, 2021 - 9:41pm

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I've had this discussion around here before...  Now if anybody here is up on the cars that are on the road today... you would know how much more efficient they are compared to cars that were on the road 20-30 years ago.
I realize that they still not a efficient as some say they should be. But it's really hard to beat today's latest creation of an internal combustion engine.
Let me give you an example. My truck will be 47 years old this December. It's a 1974 model. It's allowed 850 ppm of hydrocarbons at idle. My wife's Dodge Durango is required to put out no more than 16 ppm at idle.
I've modified my truck heavily in these last 47 years. In fact, it puts out almost four times the horsepower over the stock engine it came with... and it gets better mileage... with less pollutants than required by the State of California.
I remember growing up in Orange County California in the early- mid 60's. I walked to school. On foggy mornings when the dew was falling, it would burn your eyes because of the pollutants in the air. Your lungs would hurt by the time for the walk home. And your eyes would burn because the smog was so bad.
That doesn't happen anymore... and there's way more cars on the road.
What should Biden do?
Let the free market dictate the tech to make electric cars work. It will happen. You can't force stuff like that on people.
Eventually the tech will catch up. Subsidizing the industry/ welfare just causes more corruption. There's all kinds of examples of that going on. And it allows lazy people to continue to sponge off of the ones who work hard for a living.
Like I've said many times before... I'm all for helping people who need a hand... there's plenty of them around. But I'm VERY prejudiced against lazy losers.

Sorry for the rambling... it's past my bedtime.
And I need to get up at 4:30.








I'm with you on some of the other stuff on fuel costs and supporting the wrong people. But here I can't help but say WHAT?  CAFE standards were HUGE in improving the efficiency of cars. And remember when we had 49 state cars and California cars? That was in response to California emissions regulations, but the market and economics spoke and now car makers make nearly everything to California's standards.  The free market was leading us to worse outcomes (because they were cheaper), but government regulations resulted in more efficient cars and eventually the automakers caught up and managed to make good(sometimes) cars that also met environmental (and safety) standards.   And oil/fossil fuels have been subsidized for decades (and they continue to be), I'm not really for electrical subsidies per se, but saying our energy market is 'free' is laughable. 

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Posted: Oct 12, 2021 - 8:49pm

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+1

HIV/AIDS.    I went to wiki to look for a number.  An estimated 20.6 million had died from the condition between the early 1980s and 2020.   Source.

Wiki also reminded me that the Roman Catholic Church opposed the use of condoms.     



And every generation throws a hero up the pop charts. Here's someone to know from that generation:
The Dr. Fauci of the HIV period was a guy who looked remarkably (to me) like Brando - Dr. Paul Volberding of USCF. You'll see his face appear ever so briefly when they do a montage of how UCSF is working on the COVID thing. He really deserves more than that. I wouldn't say "hero" but he was damned important in getting things to happen. He was brand new at the job (oncology) when someone told him he should check out this 22 yr old man with Kaposi's sarcoma - something extremely rare/weird. Of course, he didn't realize that he was looking at AIDS. And from there, an uphill battle.

If you've never seen/read "And the Band Played On" then you must. It amazing, heartbreaking, and prophetic. And familiar, if you've been following COVID.
These folks all searching for the common thread, the nature of the infection. It takes time and mistakes get made, even with the brightest at work. It really pisses me off something bad when laypeople start in with the "and look at all the mistakes the idiots at the CDC make!" They really have no clue, and should basically shut up.





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Posted: Oct 12, 2021 - 8:32pm

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Anything, dead or alive, but Trump...


A dead parrot could do a better job.....

The problem might be viewing politics as a zero-sum, winner-takes-all game in the first place. 

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Posted: Oct 12, 2021 - 8:15pm

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invalid question because "100%"

Invalid question because not a question.

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