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Posted: Jul 9, 2023 - 4:30pm

For 20 years, America essentially ran a narco-state in Afghanistan...
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Posted: Aug 29, 2019 - 12:08pm



 black321 wrote:

......
 

or "customers" could do the right thing, and stop buying the illegal shit.  
 

Seriously?   -hehe-

So are you proposing an anti-scientific, anti-evidence based approach to policy?
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Posted: Aug 29, 2019 - 10:52am



 Lazy8 wrote:
westslope wrote:
The Sierra National Forest is a nice place.  Too bad  Carbofuran is used in the illegal grow-ops.

So what will take?  20 years or more to get illegal outdoor grows under control in California? 

It will take California realizing that setting tax rates absurdly high means that people will take steps to avoid paying taxes.

Don't hold your breath.
 

or "customers" could do the right thing, and stop buying the illegal shit.  
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Posted: Aug 29, 2019 - 8:54am

westslope wrote:
The Sierra National Forest is a nice place.  Too bad  Carbofuran is used in the illegal grow-ops.

So what will take?  20 years or more to get illegal outdoor grows under control in California? 

It will take California realizing that setting tax rates absurdly high means that people will take steps to avoid paying taxes.

Don't hold your breath.
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Posted: Aug 29, 2019 - 8:40am

Illegal cannabis farms still scarring public lands, two years after Prop. 64









The Sierra National Forest is a nice place.  Too bad  Carbofuran is used in the illegal grow-ops.

So what will it take?  20 years or more to get illegal outdoor grows under control in California?  

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Posted: Dec 19, 2018 - 5:08am

it should go further, but i'm happy to see it


Senate Passes White House-Backed Criminal Justice Bill by Wide Margin

After weeks of work from advocates and a bipartisan group of lawmakers, the Senate voted to pass the FIRST STEP Act.

The Senate passed a major criminal justice bill, the FIRST STEP Act, by a vote of 87-12 Tuesday night.

The bill still must go to the House, which passed a different version of the bill in May, but today's vote was an emotional victory for advocacy organizations and a bipartisan group of lawmakers who have worked for years, with little success, to shepherd a criminal justice bill to the Senate floor. Sens. Mike Lee (R-Utah) and Cory Booker (D-N.J.) hugged each other as the final votes rolled in.

 

Getting to that point required unending back-and-forth negotiation, numerous rewrites, rallies in the sweltering D.C. summer heat, convincing the notoriously flighty president to back the bill, and then convincing Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to put it on the Senate schedule—not to mention holding together a coalition of liberal, conservative, and evangelical groups.

"Historic" and "once-in-a-generation," senators called the White House-backed bill.

Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), a former opponent of criminal justice reform who became one of the chief authors of the bill, said in a statement that its passage was "an important victory in our years-long effort, which has resulted in a broad bipartisan recognition of the need for reforms."

In reality, the FIRST STEP Act is large but modest, and filled with numerous exceptions to gain the backing of law enforcement organizations, whose support was critical in gaining Trump's endorsement. The bill would expand reentry and job training opportunities for federal inmates, ban the shackling of pregnant inmates, and require inmates to be housed within 500 miles of their families, when possible.

It also includes four changes to federal sentencing law that would reduce some mandatory minimum sentences, expand judges' discretion under the so-called safety valve, and make the reductions to crack cocaine sentences under the Fair Sentencing Act of 2010 apply retroactively to current inmates.


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Posted: May 18, 2018 - 11:42am

I now think of that often-played band when I see this thread title on the RAFT.  Not that they're a failure by any means.  They are quite talented but are pretty monotonous and non-distinctive for my tastes.  They seem pretty generic -  even if the front-man is dating Krysten Ritter - aka "Jane Margolis" and "Jessica Jones".
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Posted: May 18, 2018 - 10:52am

The Mad King and Deal Breaker...
Trump threatens to use US trade talks to force NHS to pay more for drugs

Donald Trump is ready to use trade talks to force the National Health Service to pay more for its drugs as part of his scheme to "put American patients first”.

Mr Trump has claimed that the high costs faced by US patients are a direct result of other countries’ health services “freeloading” at America’s expense.

Alex Azar, the US Health and Human Services Secretary, has said Washington will use its muscle to push up drug prices abroad, to lower the cost paid by patients in the United States.

"On the foreign side, we need to, through our trade negotiations and agreements, pressure them," Azar said on CNBC.

"And so we pay less, they pay more. It shouldn't be a one-way ratchet. We all have some skin in this game."

He continued: "The reason why they are getting better net prices than we get is their socialised system."

In the UK, prices are dictated in part by National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) which has been successful in securing discounts for some of the costliest drugs.

Single-payer government-run health services like the NHS are able to use their negotiating muscle to pay far lower prices than their fragmented insurance-based private American counterparts, to the fury of the US president.

“America will not be cheated any longer, and especially will not be cheated by foreign countries,” Mr Trump said. (...)

Alex Azar (wikipedia)

In June 2007, Azar was hired by Eli Lilly and Company chief executive officer Sidney Taurel to be the company’s top lobbyist and spokesman as its Senior Vice President of Corporate Affairs and Communications. Azar left the position after Barack Obama was elected and the company wanted a member of the Democratic Party to have the position.

In April 2009, Azar became Vice President of Lilly’s U.S. Managed Healthcare Services organization and its Puerto Rico affiliate. In 2009, the company paid $1.415 billion to settle criminal charges regarding its promotion of antipsychotic drug Zyprexa (olanzapine) for off-label uses between 1999 and 2005.

Effective January 1, 2012, Azar became President of Lilly USA, LLC, the largest division of Eli Lilly and Company, and was responsible for the company's entire operations in the United States. Prices for drugs rose substantially under Azar's leadership. In connection with the position, Azar served on the board of directors of the Biotechnology Innovation Organization, a pharmaceutical lobby.

In January 2017, Azar resigned from Eli Lilly.He also resigned from the board of directors of the Biotechnology Innovation Organization.

A revolving door swamp creature.
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Posted: May 17, 2018 - 6:46pm

Great article on various approaches to ending the opiod epidemic. Overall, the panel of 30 experts recommended spending almost half the money on addiction treatment and only 11% of the funds on attacking the supply of opioids. No one recommended spending any money on The Wall.

It's a fairly quick read with quite a few charts that bring the main points home.

How a Police Chief, a Governor and a Sociologist Would Spend $100 Billion to Solve the Opioid Crisis
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Posted: May 17, 2018 - 11:59am

 miamizsun wrote:

wait a second, we're talking about plebeians here

people first!

i'm surprised someone hasn't built a retirement community on a the border (either northern or southern)

people could walk across to a facility and take their meds

 
Now this is the kind of intelligent comment people used to come here for and enjoy.

Nothing like smart people being smart.{#Notworthy}

  No hatred,no bi- partisanship,no stoopid stuff,just smart!
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Posted: May 17, 2018 - 11:00am

 miamizsun wrote:

wait a second, we're talking about plebeians here

people first!

i'm surprised someone hasn't built a retirement community on a the border (either northern or southern)

people could walk across to a facility and take their meds

 
Is it time to pitch my TV show Breaking Good? It's about a person who sets up a clandestine drug lab to sell insulin and other drugs after the industry jacks up the prices.
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Posted: May 17, 2018 - 10:05am

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state's rights?

Vermont Voted to Buy Its Prescription Drugs from Canada, and the Pharmaceutical Industry Is Not Pleased

Many critics of America's pharmaceutical industry have argued that the best way to bring down drug prices is to let Americans buy prescription drugs from countries with nationalized health care systems. Those countries' governments negotiate lower drug prices, and their consumers pay a fraction of what Americans do for most pharmaceutical products. If Americans could order from overseas, the theory goes, pharmaceutical companies would have to lower their prices here. (They arguably can't raise them abroad.)

This week, Vermont took a step toward testing that theory by passing legislation that would create a system for wholesale importation of pharmaceuticals from Canada. Vermont Gov. Phil Scott, a Republican, signed the bill Wednesday after the state's overwhelmingly Democratic legislature voted 141–2 in the House and unanimously in the Senate to pass S.175.

"It is outrageous that a commonly used medicine like Lipitor costs 46 times more per pill in the United States than in Canada," Vermont Senate President Pro Tem Tim Ashe said in a statement released by the National Academy for State Health Policy (NASHP), which wrote the model legislation on which Vermont's bill is based. "In fact, legislative staff determined that importing just two diabetes drugs from Canada would save the state's teacher health insurance plan more than $500,000 each year."



 
Feel the BERN!
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Posted: May 17, 2018 - 9:20am

 miamizsun wrote:
wait a second, we're talking about plebeians here

people first!
 
Tell it to your (bought-and-paid-for) congress people and Prez...
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Posted: May 17, 2018 - 9:05am

 miamizsun wrote:
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i'm surprised someone hasn't built a retirement community on a the border (either northern or southern)

people could walk across to a facility and take their meds

 
I guess there may be some - though retirement communities tend to be in warmer climates.  Maybe near the Windsor/Detroit area?


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Posted: May 17, 2018 - 4:58am

 R_P wrote:
Canada should add a lucrative tariff (2200%) on top of it. You still get it 50% cheaper. No mooching! Canada First!
 
wait a second, we're talking about plebeians here

people first!

i'm surprised someone hasn't built a retirement community on a the border (either northern or southern)

people could walk across to a facility and take their meds
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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 3:55pm

 miamizsun wrote:
state's rights?

Vermont Voted to Buy Its Prescription Drugs from Canada, and the Pharmaceutical Industry Is Not Pleased

Many critics of America's pharmaceutical industry have argued that the best way to bring down drug prices is to let Americans buy prescription drugs from countries with nationalized health care systems. Those countries' governments negotiate lower drug prices, and their consumers pay a fraction of what Americans do for most pharmaceutical products. If Americans could order from overseas, the theory goes, pharmaceutical companies would have to lower their prices here. (They arguably can't raise them abroad.)

This week, Vermont took a step toward testing that theory by passing legislation that would create a system for wholesale importation of pharmaceuticals from Canada. Vermont Gov. Phil Scott, a Republican, signed the bill Wednesday after the state's overwhelmingly Democratic legislature voted 141–2 in the House and unanimously in the Senate to pass S.175.

"It is outrageous that a commonly used medicine like Lipitor costs 46 times more per pill in the United States than in Canada," Vermont Senate President Pro Tem Tim Ashe said in a statement released by the National Academy for State Health Policy (NASHP), which wrote the model legislation on which Vermont's bill is based. "In fact, legislative staff determined that importing just two diabetes drugs from Canada would save the state's teacher health insurance plan more than $500,000 each year."

 
Canada should add a lucrative tariff (2200%) on top of it. You still get it 50% cheaper. No mooching! Canada First!
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Posted: May 16, 2018 - 3:41pm

state's rights?

Vermont Voted to Buy Its Prescription Drugs from Canada, and the Pharmaceutical Industry Is Not Pleased

Many critics of America's pharmaceutical industry have argued that the best way to bring down drug prices is to let Americans buy prescription drugs from countries with nationalized health care systems. Those countries' governments negotiate lower drug prices, and their consumers pay a fraction of what Americans do for most pharmaceutical products. If Americans could order from overseas, the theory goes, pharmaceutical companies would have to lower their prices here. (They arguably can't raise them abroad.)

This week, Vermont took a step toward testing that theory by passing legislation that would create a system for wholesale importation of pharmaceuticals from Canada. Vermont Gov. Phil Scott, a Republican, signed the bill Wednesday after the state's overwhelmingly Democratic legislature voted 141–2 in the House and unanimously in the Senate to pass S.175.

"It is outrageous that a commonly used medicine like Lipitor costs 46 times more per pill in the United States than in Canada," Vermont Senate President Pro Tem Tim Ashe said in a statement released by the National Academy for State Health Policy (NASHP), which wrote the model legislation on which Vermont's bill is based. "In fact, legislative staff determined that importing just two diabetes drugs from Canada would save the state's teacher health insurance plan more than $500,000 each year."


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