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Jiggz



Posted: Jul 12, 2024 - 1:39am

Here is your best route forward.....

1) Let Joe run (well, hobble is really all he is capable of, so do that...), but with Hillary as VP (VP choice is at the discretion of the President). Appoint Kamala as a Supreme Court Justice somehow if you cant get her out any other way.
2) Use the same mechanism to steal it that you used in 2020 because as Joe said, he has the best election rigging system, and if you can pull it off without newly minted Republican defence mechanisms catching you out, go ahead and inaugurate Joe with Hillary as VP.
3) Have Joe resign or leave a skateboard at the top landing of a few flights of stairs or something. I think if he wins again you can tell him after 3 weeks or so that his second term is up and he won't know the difference.
4) Have Hillary step up as President and practically the entire left, the media and their corporate owners all get what they want. You all get to... fund more forever wars everywhere, fund the continuation of the corporate state capture system the 2016 result put the skids onto, fall ever deeper into the debt trap that has been set for you and even experience the exquisite transition from current corporate crony capitalism to Marxism to full serfdom in the new Communist America.
You even get to play with your new CBDC....

What is there not to like?

As I said after the 2020 result...you are soooo f^$ked.

Enjoy your October surprise or whatever Wag The Dog programme that is in store for you.
Hopefully it doesnt bleed over into the rest of the world this time....I have my doubts about that though.

Play nicely.
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Posted: Jul 11, 2024 - 10:43pm

Biden trolled by Trump
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Posted: Jul 11, 2024 - 10:16pm

 steeler wrote:

You stand by false, disparaging statements you made about me and, upon being confronted about it, you seek to redirect the focus to my alleged reaction to disparaging comments made about you by others — the very same ones you falsely accused me of making. This is your modus operandi around here. Redirect the focus, move the goalposts. You, like Trump, never concede error. Never concede, period. Instead, go on the attack and portray yourself as the victim and then as the hero for valiantly standing up alone against these lockstep liberals unwilling to hear dissenting views.






Whatever grievances Kurt deserves to have here, they pale in comparison to his annoying habits. And yeah, the righteous victim act is an unending PITA. 
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Posted: Jul 11, 2024 - 8:35pm

 steeler wrote:
You stand by false, disparaging statements you made about me and, upon being confronted about it, you seek to redirect the focus to my alleged reaction to disparaging comments made about you by others — the very same ones you falsely accused me of making. This is your modus operandi around here. Redirect the focus, move the goalposts. You, like Trump, never concede error. Never concede, period. Instead, go on the attack and portray yourself as the victim and then as the hero for valiantly standing up alone against these lockstep liberals unwilling to hear dissenting views.

 
You decided to get personally offended over a broad brushed statement that was directed at everyone that it applied to and no one in particular. 

I did not single you out.  You singled yourself out. 

You, too have a definite modus operandi.  I've been dealing with your steelereeze for far too long to take your phony butthurt umbrage seriously.

I guess that it is time to go back to the term usual suspects.  That is more specific.  You can self identify with that one going forward at your own risk.
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Posted: Jul 11, 2024 - 2:06pm

Tonight's press conference: will it promptly result in President Kamala Harris?

:popcorn:
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Posted: Jul 11, 2024 - 1:53pm

'No one involved in the effort thinks he has a path': Biden insiders say the writing is on the wall
A third person close to the re-election campaign said the present situation — the questions swirling around Biden’s cognitive abilities, the dearth of fundraising and more polls showing Biden dropping in support and other candidates faring better — is unsustainable. This person also said they didn’t see how the campaign could win.

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Posted: Jul 11, 2024 - 7:28am

 steeler wrote:

You stand by false, disparaging statements you made about me and, upon being confronted about it, you seek to redirect the focus to my alleged reaction to disparaging comments made about you by others — the very same ones you falsely accused me of making. This is your modus operandi around here. Redirect the focus, move the goalposts. You, like Trump, never concede error. Never concede, period. Instead, go on the attack and portray yourself as the victim and then as the hero for valiantly standing up alone against these lockstep liberals unwilling to hear dissenting views.







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Posted: Jul 11, 2024 - 6:45am

 kurtster wrote:

You know what I find fascinating ?  That you have no problem with people using these terms in malicious and unwarranted ways, yet you have a problem when you are lumped in with these people.

You stand by false, disparaging statements you made about me and, upon being confronted about it, you seek to redirect the focus to my alleged reaction to disparaging comments made about you by others — the very same ones you falsely accused me of making. This is your modus operandi around here. Redirect the focus, move the goalposts. You, like Trump, never concede error. Never concede, period. Instead, go on the attack and portray yourself as the victim and then as the hero for valiantly standing up alone against these lockstep liberals unwilling to hear dissenting views.



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Posted: Jul 11, 2024 - 3:48am

House Oversight Subpoenas Top Biden Handlers To Find Out Who's Running The Country
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Posted: Jul 10, 2024 - 10:19pm

 kurtster wrote:

You know what I find fascinating ?  That you have no problem with people using these terms in malicious and unwarranted ways, yet you have a problem when you are lumped in with these people.
 
Just a minute, I thought you said "words matter". 

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Posted: Jul 10, 2024 - 9:55pm

 steeler wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
I do not know why you are getting so uptight about calling me any of those things.  You would be in great company with all the other fine people here who have. Around here, calling people a racist, bigot or fascist is a casual pastime.  
I never called you a racist, bigot, or fascist. I am not well known here for deleting my posts I did not refrain from answering whether Trump is a convicted felon out of fear of what others here would think of me. Your untruths continue to mount.
 
You know what I find fascinating ?  That you have no problem with people using these terms in malicious and unwarranted ways, yet you have a problem when you are lumped in with these people.
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Posted: Jul 10, 2024 - 5:02pm

 kurtster wrote:


I do not know why you are getting so uptight about calling me any of those things.  You would be in great company with all the other fine people here who have.

Around here, calling people a racist, bigot or fascist is a casual pastime.  


I never called you a racist, bigot, or fascist.

I am not well known here for deleting my posts

I did not refrain from answering whether Trump is a convicted felon out of fear of what others here would think of me.

Your untruths continue to mount.
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Posted: Jul 10, 2024 - 4:19pm

 rgio wrote:
I think Joe should step away on Sunday...or Monday... to steal the RNC thunder and flip all of the focus toward the Dems.  Schedule an open debate for the Dems against Trump's acceptance speech. 


Can you imagine the RNC: “SLEEPY JOE ETC RANT ETC RANT ETC!!!”
Next day headlines: â€Joe is no longer the candidate and all your base are belong to us.”
GOP: “Someone set us up the bomb!!!”
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Posted: Jul 10, 2024 - 3:51pm

 steeler wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

I stand by what I said.
The quick answer I referenced was my second post stating a definition of conviction, not the one you have repeated. As stated, I was busy elsewhere at that time.

Do you also stand by your statement that I have a known history of deleting my posts?

Do you also stand by your statement that I — along with everyone else here — has called you a racist, bigot, fascist?
 
So you were busy.  Maybe you should have waited to answer.  No one forced you to answer anything.

 steeler wrote:
 I have deleted a handful over the 20 years I have been posting.

I never called you a racist, bigot, or fascist.

 

I do not know why you are getting so uptight about calling me any of those things.  You would be in great company with all the other fine people here who have.

Around here, calling people a racist, bigot or fascist is a casual pastime.  
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Posted: Jul 10, 2024 - 2:37pm

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I generally agree with George. The cause is lost, IMO long before the debate. The Democratic primary process is pure theater designed to make it seem like we chose who we chose so it's usually (Clinton v Obama is an exception) not a race. Can you imagine how it would wake up the country to realize there's a candidate who doesn't have "The Machine" doing all the work? I think it would really be something. 

I mean, clearly non-GOP voters who plan to vote will vote for Biden if he's the candidate. No GOP voter will. But staying home is going to be a huge problem for Biden, a smaller problem for Trump and Trump will win by default. Get someone who can speak complete sentences and is likable and doesn't speak Wonkish, they have a chance to do something. IMO YMMV ETC

I agree.

Right now, we have 2 sides forged around Trump... Yeah or Nay.  The result of the election comes down to a few hundred thousand people in 6 states who don't pay much attention, and haven't made up their minds.

Biden is the Nay option...but you and I would still get the numbers he's getting against Trump.  What the Dems needs is some energy around an option.  Build on the record of Biden... we didn't fall off a cliff, the economy is OK... and take a stand in the middle ground.  The borders and immigration need fixing, the deficit needs to be addressed, people who are struggling need some help... but let's find space in the middle.  Schools aren't for indoctrination... but they aren't for religion either (unless they are privately focused on that). Business needs to be monitored (see: AI), but innovation needs to be embraced (see: AI).  We stand with our allies, and against terrorism.  Big money can't be allowed to run the government...that sort of thing.

A debate among the candidates he mentioned, a contested convention with several rounds of voting... and people accepting their defeat and continuing to participate in the process... would be amazingly refreshing.  I think the Dems would roll out of Chicago with a ton of energy, and Trump would look more angry, crazy, selfish, and anti-democratic than he already does.

I think Joe should step away on Sunday...or Monday... to steal the RNC thunder and flip all of the focus toward the Dems.  Schedule an open debate for the Dems against Trump's acceptance speech.  Play hardball!

It's important.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2024 - 2:34pm

 kurtster wrote:

I stand by what I said.


The quick answer I referenced was my second post stating a definition of conviction, not the one you have repeated. As stated, I was busy elsewhere at that time.

Do you also stand by your statement that I have a known history of deleting my posts?

Do you also stand by your statement that I — along with everyone else here — has called you a racist, bigot, fascist?


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Posted: Jul 10, 2024 - 2:18pm

 steeler wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Yeah, look what it took to get you to answer the question.  {#Rolleyes}
I answered quickly two days ago because I was out of town and did not have further time until yesterday. In the interim, you jumped to making yet another baseless accusation as to my thinking, motives, and conduct.
 
It was a yes or no question from the beginning.  For your first quick response, you sure spent a lot of time equivocating about semantics instead of answering directly.

steeler wrote:
This debate is really about semantics.

The jury issued its verdict of guilty on all 34 felony counts.

The judge can accept or reject a jury verdict. The judge enters a judgment.

Trump has been granted leave to file a motion to set aside the jury verdict based on the Supreme Court immunity decision.

It is possible that the judge will set aside the jury’s verdict and enter a judgment of acquittal. The motion will be briefed. That is why the judge delayed sentencing.


 
I stand by what I said.
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Posted: Jul 10, 2024 - 2:01pm

 rgio wrote:

Would it be messy? Yes. Democracy is messy. But would it enliven our party and wake up voters who, long before the June debate, had already checked out? It sure would. The short ramp to Election Day would be a benefit for us, not a danger. 


I generally agree with George. The cause is lost, IMO long before the debate. The Democratic primary process is pure theater designed to make it seem like we chose who we chose so it's usually (Clinton v Obama is an exception) not a race. Can you imagine how it would wake up the country to realize there's a candidate who doesn't have "The Machine" doing all the work? I think it would really be something. 

I mean, clearly non-GOP voters who plan to vote will vote for Biden if he's the candidate. No GOP voter will. But staying home is going to be a huge problem for Biden, a smaller problem for Trump and Trump will win by default. Get someone who can speak complete sentences and is likable and doesn't speak Wonkish, they have a chance to do something. IMO YMMV ETC 

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Posted: Jul 10, 2024 - 1:41pm

Just in case anyone wants to read this...and hasn't...

I Love Joe Biden. But We Need a New Nominee.

Mr. Clooney is an actor, director and film producer.

I’m a lifelong Democrat; I make no apologies for that. I’m proud of what my party represents and what it stands for. As part of my participation in the democratic process and in support of my chosen candidate, I have led some of the biggest fund-raisers in my party’s history. Barack Obama in 2012. Hillary Clinton in 2016. Joe Biden in 2020. Last month I co-hosted the single largest fund-raiser supporting any Democratic candidate ever, for President Biden’s re-election. I say all of this only to express how much I believe in this process and how profound I think this moment is.

I love Joe Biden. As a senator. As a vice president and as president. I consider him a friend, and I believe in him. Believe in his character. Believe in his morals. In the last four years, he’s won many of the battles he’s faced.

But the one battle he cannot win is the fight against time. None of us can. It’s devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe “big F-ing deal” Biden of 2010. He wasn’t even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate.

Was he tired? Yes. A cold? Maybe. But our party leaders need to stop telling us that 51 million people didn’t see what we just saw. We’re all so terrified by the prospect of a second Trump term that we’ve opted to ignore every warning sign. The George Stephanopoulos interview only reinforced what we saw the week before. As Democrats, we collectively hold our breath or turn down the volume whenever we see the president, whom we respect, walk off Air Force One or walk back to a mic to answer an unscripted question.

Is it fair to point these things out? It has to be. This is about age. Nothing more. But also nothing that can be reversed. We are not going to win in November with this president. On top of that, we won’t win the House, and we’re going to lose the Senate. This isn’t only my opinion; this is the opinion of every senator and Congress member and governor who I’ve spoken with in private. Every single one, irrespective of what he or she is saying publicly.

We love to talk about how the Republican Party has ceded all power, and all of the traits that made it so formidable with Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, to a single person who seeks to hold on to the presidency, and yet most of our members of Congress are opting to wait and see if the dam breaks. But the dam has broken. We can put our heads in the sand and pray for a miracle in November, or we can speak the truth.

It is disingenuous, at best, to argue that Democrats have already spoken with their vote and therefore the nomination is settled and done, when we just received new and upsetting information. We all think Republicans should abandon their nominee now that he’s been convicted of 34 felonies. That’s new and upsetting information as well. Top Democrats — Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, Nancy Pelosi — and senators, representatives and other candidates who face losing in November need to ask this president to voluntarily step aside.

All of the scary stories that we’re being told about what would happen next are simply not true. In all likelihood, the money in the Biden-Harris coffers could go to help elect the presidential ticket and other Democrats. The new nominee wouldn’t be left off ballots in Ohio. We Democrats have a very exciting bench. We don’t anoint leaders or fall sway to a cult of personality; we vote for a president. We can easily foresee a group of several strong Democrats stepping forward to stand and tell us why they’re best qualified to lead this country and take on some of the deeply concerning trends we’re seeing from the revenge tour that Donald Trump calls a presidential campaign.

Let’s hear from Wes Moore and Kamala Harris and Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsom and Andy Beshear and J.B. Pritzker and others. Let’s agree that the candidates not attack one another but, in the short time we have, focus on what will make this country soar. Then we could go into the Democratic convention next month and figure it out.

Would it be messy? Yes. Democracy is messy. But would it enliven our party and wake up voters who, long before the June debate, had already checked out? It sure would. The short ramp to Election Day would be a benefit for us, not a danger. It would give us the chance to showcase the future without so much opposition research and negative campaigning that comes with these ridiculously long and expensive election seasons. This can be an exciting time for democracy, as we’ve just seen with the 200 or so French candidates who stepped aside and put their personal ambitions on hold to save their democracy from the far right.

Joe Biden is a hero; he saved democracy in 2020. We need him to do it again in 2024.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2024 - 12:12pm

 kurtster wrote:

Yeah, look what it took to get you to answer the question.  
{#Rolleyes}


I answered quickly two days ago because I was out of town and did not have further time until yesterday. In the interim, you jumped to making yet another baseless accusation as to my thinking, motives, and conduct.


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