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Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 7:19pm

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 kurtster wrote:
 
 

Shocking, isn't it.

 
So how's things going in Portland now that the feds have turned it over to the locals ?

So much better I hear that the Mayor had to try shaming the protesters to stop their violence because it makes Trump look good ... after they tried to burn down a police union building.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 3:54pm



 buddy wrote:


Unless you're a white supremacist going on a shopping trip to Wal-Mart.  Or storming  state capital demanding the governor be hanged and beheaded.  Nothing wrong with that! 


 
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 3:52pm



 islander wrote:


 BlueHeronDruid wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
 

Shocking, isn't it.


 

Almost as if showing up with riot gear and tear gas wasn't the right approach.
 
Unless you're a white supremacist going on a shopping trip to Wal-Mart.  Or storming  state capital demanding the governor be hanged and beheaded.  Nothing wrong with that! 


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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 2:26pm



 BlueHeronDruid wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
 

Shocking, isn't it.


 

Almost as if showing up with riot gear and tear gas wasn't the right approach.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 12:26pm



 kurtster wrote:
 

Shocking, isn't it.


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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 2:37am



 kurtster wrote:

What is it ?  What didn't start with sanctuary cities ?

I keep not hearing any kind of admission that there is violence originating from the protester side of this problem, let alone expressing any objections to it.
      .
∴ you are endorsing it by refusing to admit its existence by calling it something else.
 

You are the one who said it started with sanctuary cities. I took that to mean the violence, perhaps you want to clear that up?

But we were specifically talking about the federal actions and that what they are doing would be considered war crimes if taken against a foreign adversary. Somehow you leapt from there to sanctuary cities, which I find bizarre.

I'm not endorsing violence, I'm trying to talk about the war crime issue, which btw you haven't responded to.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 2:08am

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 kurtster wrote:

So I'll put you on the list of those who endorses two wrongs makes a right ...  Ya, I know that would mean you agreeing that there is some violence going on there from more than one side.  Impossible, right ?

So with that you may now shoot me for thinking that possible. 

Considering it was me, it would be considered justifiable.  A mercy killing, eh ?

No jury in Portland would convict you ...
 
Sorry, I said nothing of the sort. I said it didn't start with sanctuary cities.

 
What is it ?  What didn't start with sanctuary cities ?

I keep not hearing any kind of admission that there is violence originating from the protester side of this problem, let alone expressing any objections to it.
      .
you are endorsing it by refusing to admit its existence by calling it something else.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 1:46am



 kurtster wrote:

So I'll put you on the list of those who endorses two wrongs makes a right ...  Ya, I know that would mean you agreeing that there is some violence going on there from more than one side.  Impossible, right ?

So with that you may now shoot me for thinking that possible. 

Considering it was me, it would be considered justifiable.  A mercy killing, eh ?

No jury in Portland would convict you ...
 
Sorry, I said nothing of the sort. I said it didn't start with sanctuary cities.

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Posted: Jul 30, 2020 - 11:47pm

 haresfur wrote:


 kurtster wrote:


And like I said earlier but was ignored, this all has its roots in the Sanctuary City Movement and this is the end product of that movement hundreds of years of violence against black people by governments at all levels in the US.
 
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So I'll put you on the list of those who endorses two wrongs makes a right ...  Ya, I know that would mean you agreeing that there is some violence going on there from more than one side.  Impossible, right ?

So with that you may now shoot me for thinking that possible. 

Considering it was me, it would be considered justifiable.  A mercy killing, eh ?

No jury in Portland would convict you ...
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Posted: Jul 30, 2020 - 11:24pm



 kurtster wrote:


And like I said earlier but was ignored, this all has its roots in the Sanctuary City Movement and this is the end product of that movement hundreds of years of violence against black people by governments at all levels in the US.
 
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Posted: Jul 30, 2020 - 11:05pm

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 kurtster wrote:

I can address that, but quite frankly, I'm not in the mood to go in that direction right now.

Especially based on the way it was thrown at me on a highly personal level.

And the referenced post seems to now have been deleted ....
 

Just tryna get through to you. I realize it doesn't fit your narrative. Wake up. Or not.
 
 
I am not naive.  I know and have known for a very long time that the area "under siege" is indeed a very small area consisting of a dozen or so city blocks around various parks.  The whole town is not up in flames. That is the case in most places btw.  I've been eyewitnessing this stuff since my early childhood in Berkeley.  I know how this works from first hand.

Even though concentrated in a small area it does not change the fact that there is some very serious and violent stuff happening.  There is a vibe throughout the whole town, same as in Berkeley and many other hot spots.  And in ordinary towns, they all have a vibe that has a direct relationship to what is tolerated and not tolerated within the town.

I consider myself very street smart.  I know that one wrong turn can have you out of normal in less than a block.  The neighborhood I lived in on the West Side of Cleveland was like that.  The whole town is like that actually.  Pockets of nice and pockets of nasty right next to each other.  I lived a couple of blocks from the Burger King where the guy was kidnapping all those girls that were recently found alive.

FWIW, I have a coffee mug with the Portland riverfront skyline filled with pens next to the keyboard of my music puter I bought at PDX on one of my trips to Portland 13 and 14 years ago to visit hippie and learn how to work with music.  I am looking right at it.  I do have a lay of the land there from tooling around town with him for a couple of weeks.  It's a beautiful place.  Glad I was there then.  Last time through there before then was in 62 on the way to the Seattle World's Fair.  Have no desire to go back given the current state of affairs.  Hippie booked several years ago and went south on 5 to Roseburg.  He had had enough.  He was born and raised there.

Now if you wish to act like what is happening in Portland is insignificant because it is primarily happening in a small area, then go ahead, I can't stop you.  If you believe that only the feds are being violent, then that is what you believe.  But something is going on there and it seems that most of the causalities have been suffered by the feds.  Someone is physically harming the federal agents.  It is not the PPD.

And like I said earlier but was ignored, this all has its roots in the Sanctuary City Movement and this is the end product of that movement.

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Posted: Jul 30, 2020 - 7:05pm



 haresfur wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 Kurtsteria wrote:


 
Yeah, I didn't want to get into that but I have read quite a few accounts of the Portland Police not enforcing the laws equally against protesters and counter protesters. And certainly the mayor has taken a lot of flack from the BLM and associated protesters for his response in keeping order. But Kurt's statement just illustrates how people profile others and try to polarize the situation. Pretty hard to be a centrist these days. Although I suppose the Moms and Dads supporting BLM are best described as radical centrists. Hmm.
 

A segment of them appear to be actively working with the counter protestors (white supremacists), tipping them off to actions and helping them avoid arrest.  This is where calls to defund are coming from. Frankly, if true I don't know how you keep the command structure and trust in the force. 
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Posted: Jul 30, 2020 - 4:26pm



 BlueHeronDruid wrote:

Just tryna get through to you. I realize it doesn't fit your narrative. Wake up. Or not.
 

 

oh, snap
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Posted: Jul 30, 2020 - 3:02pm



 kurtster wrote:

I can address that, but quite frankly, I'm not in the mood to go in that direction right now.

Especially based on the way it was thrown at me on a highly personal level.
 

Just tryna get through to you. I realize it doesn't fit your narrative. Wake up. Or not.
 

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Posted: Jul 30, 2020 - 2:50pm



 R_P wrote:
 Kurtsteria wrote:


 
Yeah, I didn't want to get into that but I have read quite a few accounts of the Portland Police not enforcing the laws equally against protesters and counter protesters. And certainly the mayor has taken a lot of flack from the BLM and associated protesters for his response in keeping order. But Kurt's statement just illustrates how people profile others and try to polarize the situation. Pretty hard to be a centrist these days. Although I suppose the Moms and Dads supporting BLM are best described as radical centrists. Hmm.
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