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Steely_D

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Posted: Sep 16, 2021 - 3:36am

 coding_to_music wrote:


I think these are very relevant topics

People who are interested participate

It does affect us all and a nice civilized discourse is healthy


Wrong forum. Unless you want to self-identify as a spammer. Now it’s your call (or BillG’s)
rgio

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 6:50pm

 haresfur wrote:
The President's job is to make policy based on risk-benefit analysis. You are deliberately misrepresenting this as speaking for everyone.

Like the Trumpsters always said....elections have consequences.

More people died of COVID in 2020 because we elected someone who didn't care about people...just the stock market (which cost him the election).

In an ironic twist, more people died of COVID in 2021 because Trump wasn't elected.  If he were doing an Operation Warp Speed victory lap, the low vaccination states would be at higher levels.

Formal, tribal, insanity.
haresfur

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 6:20pm

 kurtster wrote:


Lastly, Biden has made it crystal clear that only citizens must be vaccinated by Psaki's admission that they have absolutely no intention of vaccinating any of the illegals coming over the southern border. That was the direct answer to a direct question. If public safety was truly behind all of this, the illegals would be vaccinated on the spot, before even beginning processing. Nope, not even a thought and not even an attempt to deny it. I find this as a direct insult to my intelligence.

And as you said yourself, you are not concerned about the safety of these vaccines. Fine. But just because you say so does not mean that no one else should be worried. Unless you claim to speak for everyone like Biden does.


I'll trust you that this is what was said, and I agree that all immigrants seeking to stay in the US should be vaccinated. See? Common ground. 

The President's job is to make policy based on risk-benefit analysis. You are deliberately misrepresenting this as speaking for everyone.



ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 6:17pm

(moved back to Covid) Stop the conversation in this thread, please.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 6:10pm

 kurtster wrote:

Yes and what are you capable of wondering about other than Wonder Bread ?

That alone is some pretty heavy lifting for someone of your capabilities.


A lame retort straight out of fifth-grade. Congratulations.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 4:41pm

 steeler wrote:

You should add, for the benefit of CTM and his understanding of the alleged group think, that you chose to get vaccinated.

As to the rest, if this is such an intellectual vacuum from your perspective, one wonders why you choose to stay and continue debate with those you believe are incapable of being open-minded.





Yes, one wonders.
steeler

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 4:28pm

 kurtster wrote:

Time to chill.  You cannot, will not and are not changing any minds here.

While you have raised many valid points, you are now going backwards and playing into their hands.

As you noted when you popped back in to see what was new, nothing is new here.  Same people, the ones still left, along with the same mindsets. They think that people like you and I are the sheep.  They are too invested in their beliefs to even consider anything that goes against their conclusions.  There is a predominantly closed system of thinking here.  Yet you have been given all the freedom to express your thoughts.  Realize that and do not lose that by continuing on your present path.

You of course can continue and end up DD'ed or you can take a break and count your blessings, regroup and try another approach with your freedom to be here intact.  Either way, the rest will still be here whether you are or not.  FWIW, nothing pisses them off more than someone who knows when to quit before they are tossed.  You'll just have to trust me on that one.

{#Meditate}

You should add, for the benefit of CTM and his understanding of the alleged group think, that you chose to get vaccinated.

As to the rest, if this is such an intellectual vacuum from your perspective, one wonders why you choose to stay and continue debate with those you believe are incapable of being open-minded.



R_P

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 3:24pm

 kurtster wrote:
(...) you and I are the sheep.

Who love to slander and are still desperately seeking a shepherd. Lost.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 2:28pm

 coding_to_music wrote:

Do you know about the Amish?

The are not playing Pharma's game

So you want to go collect them from their fields and jab them?

Why do you think they are at risk to themselves or others?

Do you recommend the police get involved?
 
Time to chill.  You cannot, will not and are not changing any minds here.

While you have raised many valid points, you are now going backwards and playing into their hands.

As you noted when you popped back in to see what was new, nothing is new here.  Same people, the ones still left, along with the same mindsets. They think that people like you and I are the sheep.  They are too invested in their beliefs to even consider anything that goes against their conclusions.  There is a predominantly closed system of thinking here.  Yet you have been given all the freedom to express your thoughts.  Realize that and do not lose that by continuing on your present path.

You of course can continue and end up DD'ed or you can take a break and count your blessings, regroup and try another approach with your freedom to be here intact.  Either way, the rest will still be here whether you are or not.  FWIW, nothing pisses them off more than someone who knows when to quit before they are tossed.  You'll just have to trust me on that one.

{#Meditate}
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 1:56pm

*poof*
coding_to_music

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 1:22pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

That is patently not true. Please explain to me why not having a vaccine means you are not at risk of anything.



Do you know about the Amish?

The are not playing Pharma's game

So you want to go collect them from their fields and jab them?

Why do you think they are at risk to themselves or others?

Do you recommend the police get involved?
R_P

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 1:22pm

 coding_to_music wrote:
And the Amish and Christian Scientists and Orthodox Jews are busy carrying on with their lives, they are not participating and so are not at risk of anything.

I'm with them.

You might end up with them...
The stark message is part of a health ministry campaign aimed at Israel’s 1.2 million Ultra-Orthodox Jews, the community that was the hardest hit by the coronavirus but also blamed by many secular Israelis for prolonging the pandemic by ignoring lockdown rules.

Now the rate of infections among the Haredim, as they are known in Israel, has dropped sharply, falling below the national average for the first time since the pandemic broke out. Cases of severe illness have also dropped, and vaccine take-up is at 72%, a comparatively high rate globally although still below the national rate of 86% in Israel.

The shift comes on the back of a decree from the Haredim’s leading rabbis, who for some hold far more authority in their communities than the state, to endorse the vaccine as Israel began its national roll-out in late December.

“I personally went to rabbinical classes and sat with the rabbis and with the public,” said Ran Balicer of Clalit, Israel’s biggest healthcare provider.

“The bottom line was that the rabbis have declared the rabbinical verdict that the vaccine is safe and effective and should be taken.”

The decision was a turning point for the community ravaged by the virus, where by February, one in every 100 Israeli ultra-Orthodox Jews above the age of 60 had died of COVID-19 - nearly six times higher than among their mainstream peers.

NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 1:19pm

 coding_to_music wrote:


And the Amish and Christian Scientists and Orthodox Jews are busy carrying on with their lives, they are not participating and so are not at risk of anything.

I'm with them.


That is patently not true. Please explain to me why not having a vaccine means you are not at risk of anything.

coding_to_music

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 1:16pm

 R_P wrote:

Side effects, impotence, miscarriages, heart problems, infertility, etc., etc.


And the Amish and Christian Scientists and Orthodox Jews are busy carrying on with their lives, they are not participating and so are not at risk of anything.

I'm with them.

NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 1:16pm

 coding_to_music wrote:


It's a long list!

Just today, in the news:



ok, so why does that make you scared? Vaccines demonstrably save lives.
coding_to_music

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 1:14pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

um, eugenics, Bill Gates, government mandates, mRNA-based vaccines, other vaccines, doctors, masks, public opinion, science, talking about fear..   etc
— you have quite a long list actually.



It's a long list!

Just today, in the news:

R_P

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 1:14pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
um, eugenics, Bill Gates, government mandates, mRNA-based vaccines, other vaccines, doctors, masks, public opinion, science, talking about fear..   etc
— you have quite a long list actually.

Side effects, impotence, miscarriages, heart problems, infertility, etc., etc.
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 1:12pm

 coding_to_music wrote:


Scared of what?


um, eugenics, Bill Gates, government mandates, mRNA-based vaccines, other vaccines, doctors, masks, public opinion, science, talking about fear..   etc
— you have quite a long list actually.

coding_to_music

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 1:11pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


And admit it, you are very very scared by something you obviously don't fully understand. There's actually nothing wrong with that. We all have our fears and insecurities. And none of us knows everything.
But we might make more progress if you simply admitted you were shit-scared instead of trying to convince others that you are right to be scared.

Here, let me save you the trouble: You are right to be scared about the unknown. We all are. Now let's move on to ways of managing those fears.. You ok with that?


My daughter is getting her Nurse Practitioner degree this year at UCSF

Believe me - all she knows is to follow orders

She does not understand the underlying stuff if it is not her specialty

So you certainly don't know anything about this covid stuff - you just know to follow orders and check everything with Reuters Fact Checking

Is that how science works?

No, data is open and scientists check each others work

I am a data scientist

Just doing my job.
coding_to_music

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Posted: Sep 15, 2021 - 1:08pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


And admit it, you are very very scared by something you obviously don't fully understand. There's actually nothing wrong with that. We all have our fears and insecurities. And none of us knows everything.
But we might make more progress if you simply admitted you were shit-scared instead of trying to convince others that you are right to be scared.

Here, let me save you the trouble: You are right to be scared about the unknown. We all are. Now let's move on to ways of managing those fears.. You ok with that?


Scared of what?

I choose to not get the vaccine

Is that allowed?
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