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Posted: Feb 14, 2018 - 8:57am

 sirdroseph wrote:
How many voting machines have they hacked into and changed the results on? Wake me up when you find that.

 

Russian Threat To Elections To Persist Through 2018, Spy Bosses Warn Congress

February 13, 2018 • Moscow's interference in the United States and the West has continued since 2016 and is forecast to persist through this year's midterm races, the U.S. intelligence community says.
I think this is the story where the GOP guy says it's clear they tried, and most likely failed, in 2016, but their efforts are clearly refined and are likely to be directed at soft targets as a proof of the system.


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Posted: Feb 14, 2018 - 8:32am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 




I don't get it, what is the problem with this? The United States has been and does far more direct meddling with boots on the ground than Russia ever could. Meddling in elections is one of the few categories we are still undisputed leaders of. Is this illegal? I don't think so. Did they influence any votes with these tweets? Probably, good for them and bad for anyone who is influenced by such silliness as a tweet. I hope Putin gives those trolls and bot creators raises, they have done a good job. How many voting machines have they hacked into and changed the results on? Wake me up when you find that.
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Posted: Feb 14, 2018 - 8:16am

(Google Spreadsheet) Ten sample influential Russian Twitter Trolls 
 
NBC Posts 200,000+ Deleted Twitter posts from Russian trolls
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Posted: Feb 9, 2018 - 6:09am

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"The more secretive government becomes, the less trust it deserves. Secrecy empowers politicans to manipulate public opinion with self serving disclosures." James Bovard
 
concerning the current production?

i think in the end they've got to come up with something/anything

even if it is inventing a new "political" standard on a go-forward basis

and speaking of bovard...

Robert Mueller's forgotten surveillance crime spree



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Posted: Feb 8, 2018 - 7:34am

"The more secretive government becomes, the less trust it deserves. Secrecy empowers politicans to manipulate public opinion with self serving disclosures." James Bovard
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Posted: Feb 8, 2018 - 6:17am

has this guy been hiding under a rock?  god!

There’s Still No Big ‘There’ in the Russia Probe

The FBI’s disappointing surveillance of Carter Page illustrates the difficulty of implicating the president in illegal collusion.


Peter Strzok, an FBI agent who called Donald Trump an "idiot" and rooted against him in 2016, was nevertheless reluctant to join the investigation of possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russians who sought to influence the presidential election. Strzok, who was removed from the probe after his anti-Trump comments came to light, expressed his qualms in a May 19 text message to FBI lawyer Lisa Page, his girlfriend at the time: "I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there's no big 'there' there."

It is looking more and more like Strzok's gut was right. The FBI's surveillance of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, which Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee criticize in a memo that was declassified last week, shows investigators putting a lot of time and effort into a line of inquiry that apparently led nowhere.

Given the low legal bar for wiretapping suspected foreign agents, it seems likely that the FBI could have obtained permission to wiretap Page even without the evidence that the memo portrays as questionable and tainted by partisan bias. But that does not mean the bureau's investigation of Page, an oil industry consultant known for his pro-Russian views, was fruitful.

The FBI questioned Page in 2013 about his encounter with a Russian intelligence agent (who he apparently did not realize was a spy) and reportedly monitored his conversations in 2014. In October 2016, after press coverage of Page's chumminess with the Russian government led him to part ways with the Trump campaign, the FBI obtained a new warrant, which lasted 90 days and was renewed three times, meaning he was under FBI surveillance for a full year.

Despite all this interest in Page, a peripheral figure in the Trump campaign who served as a foreign policy adviser for half a year, he was never charged with a crime.


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Posted: Dec 21, 2017 - 7:12pm

Why Russians Think ‘America Is Waging War Against Russia’
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Posted: Nov 15, 2017 - 8:12am

What Hillary Knew About Putin's Propaganda Machine
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Posted: Nov 3, 2017 - 10:06am

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uh oh

Behold the Work of Russia's Evil Advertising Geniuses

Satan is on Clinton's side, and check out this coloring book featuring a buff Bernie Sanders!

 
Very, very convincing!
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Posted: Nov 3, 2017 - 6:02am

uh oh

Behold the Work of Russia's Evil Advertising Geniuses

Satan is on Clinton's side, and check out this coloring book featuring a buff Bernie Sanders!



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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 1:03pm

 R_P wrote: 
Some interesting comments that follow, pointing to Greenwald himself failing to correctly quote...eg, California did in fact say they were hacked.  Who to believe anymore? 
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Posted: Sep 28, 2017 - 12:31pm

 R_P wrote: 
american agitprop?    {#Lol}




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Posted: Sep 28, 2017 - 11:45am

Yet Another Major Russia Story Falls Apart. Is Skepticism Permissible Yet? (Greenwald)
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Posted: Sep 23, 2017 - 5:09am

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{#Lol}The new "Red Scare". 
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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 - 7:33pm

Kremlin influence in America: The evidence right under our nose
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Posted: Aug 2, 2017 - 9:27am

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Don't hold your breath. The kleptocracy model of civilization (using the term in Jared Diamond's sense, not Wikipedia's)  has sustained itself uninterrupted for centuries, and consistently demonstrated the ability to conquer or eliminate more egalitarian societies/political models.

 
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/31/15959970/donald-trump-authoritarian-children-corruption
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Posted: Aug 2, 2017 - 8:55am

 miamizsun wrote:
these sanctions, like all sanctions, just punish the plebeians

silly political posturing at the expense of the vulnerable

seeking a sustainable peaceful solution through political force and violence is like running east looking for a sunset

remind me to act surprised when this buffoonery eventually fails

 
Don't hold your breath. The kleptocracy model of civilization (using the term in Jared Diamond's sense, not Wikipedia's)  has sustained itself uninterrupted for centuries, and consistently demonstrated the ability to conquer or eliminate more egalitarian societies/political models.
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Posted: Aug 2, 2017 - 7:09am

these sanctions, like all sanctions, just punish the plebeians

silly political posturing at the expense of the vulnerable

seeking a sustainable peaceful solution through political force and violence is like running east looking for a sunset

remind me to act surprised when this buffoonery eventually fails


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Posted: Jun 14, 2017 - 10:41am

I was thinking that Russiagate is starting to look like the program to report and promote UFO sightings (to suppress talk about all the strange flying machines then being tested over the western desert) so the opening line of “The Big Fat Compendium Of Russiagate Debunkery” struck a cord:

“Russiagate is like a mirage: from a distance it looks like something, but once you move in for a closer look, there’s nothing there. Nothing. Nothing solid, nothing substantial, nothing you can point at and say, ‘Here it is….'”

If so the question is: What is Russiagate supposed to prevent us from talking about?

This article is an interesting example of crowd-sourced journalism, which is new to me. It seems to be enabled by Twitter.


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