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Lazy8

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Posted: Sep 1, 2022 - 11:02am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
There seems to be a serious safety problem with Russian windows.
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Posted: Sep 1, 2022 - 8:41am

Top Russian oil official dies after fall from hospital window
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Posted: Aug 31, 2022 - 4:56am

unfortunately for russia, putin's invasion has rekindled the brain drain
a lot of russia's best and brightest have exited the country
the numbers/estimates vary, but have increased and trending upward

this is a really bad sign for russia in general, especially longer term
hopefully some of the talent will consider returning when stable leadership shows up

my worry is that putin is in denial and won't respond to rational, reasonable policy
his hardline belief system doesn't seem to gaf
maybe can he put the sh*t back into the horse or he might opt to ride his country into the ground
let's hope he or someone around him comes to their senses
the alternative is disastrous and will cause grief and suffering  on millions of innocent people


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Posted: Aug 29, 2022 - 11:20am

Russia divestment promises by US states largely unfulfilled
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Posted: Aug 27, 2022 - 1:33pm

Six months into war, Russian goods still flowing to US
In reality, no one involved actually expected trade to drag to a halt after the invasion. Banning imports of certain items would likely do more harm to those sectors in the U.S. than in Russia.

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Posted: Aug 26, 2022 - 11:30am

Overextending and Unbalancing Russia (RAND, 2019)
Assessing the Impact of Cost-Imposing Options
Editor's Note, April 2022: We encourage you to explore this research brief and the full report that it is based on. However, because Russian state media entities and individuals sympathetic to Putin's decision to invade Ukraine have mischaracterized this research in recent weeks, we also encourage you to explore this helpful resource on Russia's “firehose of falsehood” approach to propaganda and our research on “Truth Decay,” which is a phenomenon that is driven in part by the spread of disinformation.

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Posted: Aug 25, 2022 - 3:30pm

 westslope wrote:
 
And what makes you think that I have not read or watched RT?

 
Yes, you are right. In fact, it sometimes looks like you only read and watch RT: 

 westslope wrote:
 
I see it as a dog's breakfast of a country where people do not play particularly well together. 

 
 OK, so that was a cheap shot. But your western arrogance is glaring. Given, that you actually do have half a brain, which I believe you do, how do you reconcile current Ukrainian unity with your statements now? How do you square the fact that Ukraine kept its defence plans secret, even from the US, right up to the date of the invasion? How do you explain that they have very effectively bloodied the nose of what was supposed to be the second best army in the world with just a tiny fraction of their military might? And they have done this with one hand tied behind their back as virtually no country dared to give/sell them the weapons they needed/wanted and have very politely agreed not to attack Russian territory (at least overtly). I mean, srsly? The Ukrainians have been bloody amazing.

On a separate and unrelated note. I don't get your fawning over Russia. What is so great about this fascist dictatorship that appeals to you? I mean the dictatorship of the proletariat was only ever meant to be a temporary thing to facilitate agrarian Russia through its capitalist transition towards communism and class consciousness. It's now been going on over 100 years and I don't see any nascent class consciousness developing anywhere there, just crude nationalism and a policy of brutality pursued by kleptocrats who like living it up on the Cote d'Azur. That's my take. I would seriously like to know yours. I understand that you despise US foreign policy. I get the reasons for that particular sentiment, though I don't share it. But why on earth do you support Russia, which in my view is just the Russian sister of German fascism. I am seriously confounded by your stance.
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Posted: Aug 25, 2022 - 6:53am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

oh, if it's hypocrisy and posturing that gets your goat, I strongly recommend watching more RT. Takes newspeak to a whole new level.

And what makes you think that I have not read or watched RT?



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Posted: Aug 25, 2022 - 12:43am

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At least some Russians are honest and straightforward about how modern war is waged.  Better than all the pompous self-righteous posturing and outright lies that come out of the USA.  


oh, if it's hypocrisy and posturing that gets your goat, I strongly recommend watching more RT. Takes newspeak to a whole new level.
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Posted: Aug 24, 2022 - 6:03pm

 westslope wrote:

At least some Russians are honest and straightforward about how modern war is waged.  Better than all the pompous self-righteous posturing and outright lies that come out of the USA.  



Not better at all. Acting like it is all acceptable is a race to the bottom.
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Posted: Aug 24, 2022 - 5:42pm

At least some Russians are honest and straightforward about how modern war is waged.  Better than all the pompous self-righteous posturing and outright lies that come out of the USA.  
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Posted: Aug 24, 2022 - 6:04am

state approved russian media channel is right out in the open with their messaging...


 

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Posted: Aug 23, 2022 - 7:19pm

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I'm almost certain you just tried to say something.
 
Nope.  Error on my part.  Nothing to see.
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Posted: Aug 23, 2022 - 6:28pm

meanwhile on the russian agitprop channel...


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Posted: Aug 23, 2022 - 5:34pm

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Well, Pavel Filatyev appears to not understand the rationale.  Please, please:  understanding and agreeing are separate notions.  They are not the same.  Many rich country soldiers have a rather elementary or poor understanding of national security and strategic considerations.   Their opinions and attitudes still matter.

Then we have a number of reports that Russian soldiers were given little information and rationale leading up to the invasion.   That hints at the notion that Russia's invasion was somewhat spontaneous but if you back up, that is clearly not the case.

Pavel Filatyev's description suggests more than a few Russian soldiers were caught off guard by the often hostile reception by civilians and the determined defensive fire by Ukrainian forces, militia and other irregulars.  Disillusioned soldiers will eventually weigh heavily on Russia's willingness to continue this conflict and settle in the for the long haul.

This war may currently enjoy the support of most Russians.  That could erode going forward.   I don't have a clear picture but we already observe some sub-cultural schisms in Russian society in regards to supporting the Ukraine invasion.

That said, it is important to recognize several key factors: 

- for the Russian old guard and security establishment, this is an existential conflict.  See Russian history.

- this war has the reasonably solid support of Russian political and security elites.    For the moment.

- Russia has been preparing for this possibility for a long time.

- little strategic planning went into according the Baltic states and Poland NATO membership; similarly little strategic planning went into choices regarding economic and financial sanctions levied at Russia and its citizens.  These sanctions have more than likely already driven most European economies and the US economy into recession.  

- US-lead NATO managed to deftly revive the non-aligned movement.  BRICS could soon become BRICSA.   Trade patterns are and will continue to shift.   BRICSA member countries do not mean the USA or its citizens harm; they simply do not want to be harmed by US policy.  Naturally, US hegemony will decline at an accelerated pace.

- Russia has the capacity to engage US-lead NATO through proxy nation Ukraine for longer than the Ukraine, the US and US-ally nations can stand it.

- Ukraine has already paid an enormous price and will continue to pay an astronomical price in human lives and welfare if this conflict drags.

- Much of Europe is going into a sharp recession and may have to ration heating and lighting this coming winter. The USA is likely already in recession though optimistically it should not be deep or long. This not a good time to be poor on fixed income or a low-income earner in the USA.

- US economic and financial sanctions in the post-war period have been remarkably ineffective and costly.  Other nations can reasonably anticipate that the US will continue to levy harsh sanctions against non-allied nations because they politically sell in the USA despite the collective costs and political risks.

- Chair Powell et al are still acting Dovish.  That simply means even more pain and suffering for America's most vulnerable slightly farther down the road.  



Long-term solution?

So how do we put this costly and extremely dangerous conflict behind us?   

I have no prior preferences for Ukraine other than a deep sadness for its long far too often bloody career.  I see it as a dog's breakfast of a country where people do not play particularly well together.  Ukraine makes me think of a few Black African countries where European colonial powers carved up tribal  and pre-colonial 'national' groups into separate nation states and lumped incompatible others together.  That is not necessarily the best metaphor.  

Nigeria, for example, verges on a failed state.  Ukraine is poor and not a great place to invest (coincidence?) but it was a functioning nation state that allowed itself to be lulled into a false sense of security by not entirely credible assurances from the US leaders.  Ex:  Vietnam, Kurds, Afghanistan, Somalia. 

Viewing American 'commitments' as iron-clad is fraught with risk. It is important to recognize how special interests and myopic political considerations drive US foreign policy.  Or risk becoming State Dept. roadkill.


Taking shape?

I believe we already know the rough shape of a lasting and durable settlement though the appetite for prolonging the conflict appears to be still quite high.  The eastern Russian ethnic-dominated regions will become independent and autonomous protectorates of Russia.  Ukraine, the US and NATO will agree to refraining from according Ukraine NATO membership.  

There might be agreements restricting weapons assistance and deployment in both Ukraine and the eastern Russian-ethnic buffer zone.   A negotiated partial disarmament.  

In the best outcome, economic and financial relations are normalized relatively quickly.  Europe would be a colossal fool to not continue buying natural gas and other forms of energy and commodities from Russia.    

Canada, USA, Australia and several Gulf of Persia countries would all benefit enormously if Europe stopped buying Russian natural gas.  At the same time, a number of politically sensitive commodity prices would continue to stay high — oil, fertilizer, grains — if this conflict drags.  BRICSA would take on greater material importance.



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Posted: Aug 23, 2022 - 4:21pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

I'm almost certain you just tried to say something.




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Posted: Aug 23, 2022 - 2:15pm

 kurtster wrote:

I'm almost certain you just tried to say something.
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Posted: Aug 23, 2022 - 8:17am

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Posted: Aug 23, 2022 - 8:02am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


..except that now they genuinely seem shit-scared this latest misadventure is going badly badly wrong for them.


It's starting to seem so, anyway.
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Posted: Aug 23, 2022 - 7:52am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


same as it ever was


..except that now they genuinely seem shit-scared this latest misadventure is going badly badly wrong for them.
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