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Posted: Sep 20, 2019 - 10:59am

 miamizsun wrote:


well, not quite (coal is great for pizza ovens)
 
True dat
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Posted: Sep 20, 2019 - 7:09am

who knew?

there's even some pretty sweet charts/maps and stuff

and when those capitalists put the new nuclear tech in here...coal may be as dead as disco

well, not quite (coal is great for pizza ovens)

via bloomberg


What’s Behind the World’s Biggest Climate Victory? Capitalism

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Posted: Sep 12, 2019 - 11:10pm

LOHCs  way to go!
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Posted: Jul 31, 2019 - 11:17am

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Posted: Apr 10, 2019 - 4:28am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

  
the regal type of crown or the dental ones?
 

just the thought of the queen having a "grill" made me laugh - one could do a bit on that

a couple of things:

manbird swears the queen has wooden teeth

and he's on the lower back (not bad for an irish lad and amateur phrenologist)


i've also tagged wikipedia to amend the crown's page to specify that particular sparkly is on loan from mbe


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Posted: Apr 10, 2019 - 12:55am



 miamizsun wrote:


i'm pretty sure the queen has a few mounted in her crown

so it's negotiable
  
  
the regal type of crown or the dental ones?

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Posted: Apr 8, 2019 - 8:08am

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I think he's already hocked all of them.

 

i'm pretty sure the queen has a few mounted in her crown

so it's negotiable
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Posted: Apr 8, 2019 - 7:59am

 miamizsun wrote:

thx

i have more

buy me coffee? beer? one of manbird's kidney stones?

 
I think he's already hocked all of them.
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Posted: Apr 8, 2019 - 7:56am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

 totally agree.{#Clap}

 
thx

i have more

buy me coffee? beer? one of manbird's kidney stones?
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Posted: Apr 8, 2019 - 6:33am

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it's going to take a multifaceted approach

for example the poorest places on earth, the places where people need energy to lift them out of grinding extreme poverty

those just happen to be some of the sunniest places on the planet

currently for them the first logical step might be solar

the cost of pv energy conversion/generation is falling at a very rapid rate (see perskovite and swanson's law, etc.)

storage is definitely a challenge and relatively inefficient, but battery tech is progressing

the huge issue for solar is larger urban areas (the engineering presentation i saw used tokyo as an example)

short of some super breakthrough, there's no way solar is going to do the job in an area like that

dense population requires a dense on demand energy source

couple that with the trend of people moving or relocating to lager cities and we can get the idea

small mass produced nuclear (something like lftr) is clearly much better suited for such situations

the technology is fairly well understood and there's a lot of increasing activity in this area

for very obvious reasons we need a lot more inexpensive energy

regards


 
 totally agree.{#Clap}
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Posted: Apr 8, 2019 - 6:19am

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Solar and wind generated power are ultimately the only sustainable sources. ALL the energy on this planet came/comes from the sun. We need to stop mining the stored solar energy and start using the solar energy that is dumped on the planet on a daily - sustainable - basis.
 

it's going to take a multifaceted approach

for example the poorest places on earth, the places where people need energy to lift them out of grinding extreme poverty

those just happen to be some of the sunniest places on the planet

currently for them the first logical step might be solar

the cost of pv energy conversion/generation is falling at a very rapid rate (see perskovite and swanson's law, etc.)

storage is definitely a challenge and relatively inefficient, but battery tech is progressing

the huge issue for solar is larger urban areas (the engineering presentation i saw used tokyo as an example)

short of some super breakthrough, there's no way solar is going to do the job in an area like that

dense population requires a dense on demand energy source

couple that with the trend of people moving or relocating to lager cities and we can get the idea

small mass produced nuclear (something like lftr) is clearly much better suited for such situations

the technology is fairly well understood and there's a lot of increasing activity in this area

for very obvious reasons we need a lot more inexpensive energy

regards



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Posted: Apr 7, 2019 - 3:11pm



 kurtster wrote:


So you're 100% sure that it is settled science ?  I'm not.

Here try this ...

Fossils From Animals And Plants Are Not Necessary For Crude Oil And Natural Gas, Swedish Researchers Find

Wiki

and lastly ...

The Origin of Crude Oil or Petroleum: Biotic or Abiotic?

It's been well talked about here over 10 years ago.  It was dismissed then as who haw.  Things have changed since then.

https://radioparadise.com/community/forum/topic/5371


 
Looked at the Nature article. Yeah, it has absolutely nothing to do with the formation of petroleum deposits. If people want to faff around with figuring out how you can form commercial deposits of long-chain hydrocarbons out of mantle material in areas least likely to have transport up from those depths, fine. Not to mention all other evidence like isotopes that this isn't the mechanism. But it is on their back to put forward a credible paradigm rather than merely taking pot-shots and expecting everyone else to take them seriously.

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Posted: Apr 7, 2019 - 10:38am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

If on the other hand, you are just trying to save face. Sorry. not convinced.

 
Me ?  No.

I truly believe that oil and other hydrocarbons can indeed be abiotic.

I offered support samples for my beliefs.

No minds were changed today.  Like I said, no worries.

As a reminder, I was initially responding to this:
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 Red_Dragon wrote:
 ALL the energy on this planet came/comes from the sun. 
  
You questioned my reply to that statement, but not the statement itself.  I simply questioned your inference that all hydrocarbons were a result of solar activity.  We disagree.  But at least we agree that the above quoted statement is not true ?


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Posted: Apr 7, 2019 - 10:19am

not that it matters but i'd like to post some stuff in here

but first my webex on beclowning for fun and profit
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Posted: Apr 7, 2019 - 9:49am



 kurtster wrote:

I'll take that as a yes, it's settled science.

No worries on my part.
 

Kurster, you have a proclivity for taking strange scientific outliers and extrapolating from them to debunk what is, seeing that we are talking about sedimentary processes, as settled science. You are off chasing fake clouds again on this one. Sorry. 


It is possible for more complex hydrocarbons to form at depth from methane. This is known and accepted. But the regimes where this happens are primarily subduction zones, i.e. those places where the crust is getting sucked down into the mantle (or pushed), take your pick and is exposed to heat from the mantle. It cannot and does not explain the vast seams of hydrocarbon deposits in crustal regimes miles away from subduction zones that were laid down in sediments and turned into coal and oil by overburden. This is amply proven by the very fossils in the host rock. No mantle heat anywhere near them. Just the heat and pressure of being buried by a ton of other crap. A lot of it organic. Where do you think dead plants and animals go? 

I know a lot of geologists and not even the oil industry accepts the abiotic hypothesis. Why would they? It would make it a darned sight harder to find the next oil field.

If on the other hand, you are just trying to save face. Sorry. not convinced.
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Posted: Apr 7, 2019 - 9:36am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


 kurtster wrote:


So you're 100% sure that it is settled science ?  I'm not.

 

.. and the beat goes on...  

 
I'll take that as a yes, it's settled science.

No worries on my part.
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Posted: Apr 7, 2019 - 9:26am



 kurtster wrote:


So you're 100% sure that it is settled science ?  I'm not.

Here try this ...

Fossils From Animals And Plants Are Not Necessary For Crude Oil And Natural Gas, Swedish Researchers Find

Wiki

and lastly ...

The Origin of Crude Oil or Petroleum: Biotic or Abiotic?

It's been well talked about here over 10 years ago.  It was dismissed then as who haw.  Things have changed since then.

https://radioparadise.com/community/forum/topic/5371


 

.. and the beat goes on...  
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Posted: Apr 7, 2019 - 9:06am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

So you are saying that all coal, oil, shale, etc, cannot exist without an organic component ?
 
Do you play the drums by any chance Kurtster?
 

So you're 100% sure that it is settled science ?  I'm not.

Here try this ...

Fossils From Animals And Plants Are Not Necessary For Crude Oil And Natural Gas, Swedish Researchers Find

Wiki

and lastly ...

The Origin of Crude Oil or Petroleum: Biotic or Abiotic?

It's been well talked about here over 10 years ago.  It was dismissed then as who haw.  Things have changed since then.

https://radioparadise.com/community/forum/topic/5371


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Posted: Apr 7, 2019 - 8:33am



 kurtster wrote:

So you are saying that all coal, oil, shale, etc, cannot exist without an organic component ?
 
Do you play the drums by any chance Kurtster?

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Posted: Apr 7, 2019 - 8:32am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

So you're saying that petrochemicals, et al, are indirect solar power ?
 
 
Kurtster, let's just stop now. you make me into a worse person than I want to be.

 Go check out where oil ultimately comes from.
 
So you are saying that all coal, oil, shale, etc, cannot exist without an organic component ?
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