Perhaps, but as a water-baby (Pisces born in a town called Neptune, learned to swim in the Atlantic Ocean) and who grew up beneath and on the waves (body- and board-surfing, snorkling, etc.), I can tell you that a drowning death is a terror of mine. Didn't help, either, that a certified scuba instructor friend drowned. She shouldn't have gone after her partner's fin, which he dropped after getting back into the boat, but still. It was two weeks before they found her body. No thanks. I don't want my last breaths to be thick.
Same. Also add being buried alive. How about those horror movies when they pull the cover over the pool when someone has been tossed in. Naw, I'm good. I am going to be buried in the backyard and want those bells with a string going to my hand just in case. My dog will dig me up, won't you, Jake?..........Jake?
I have no idea what family and friends might think but I do know that many passionate anglers want to go this way and not spend their waning years tied down to a bed or a wheel chair.
Perhaps, but as a water-baby (Pisces born in a town called Neptune, learned to swim in the Atlantic Ocean) and who grew up beneath and on the waves (body- and board-surfing, snorkling, etc.), I can tell you that a drowning death is a terror of mine. Didn't help, either, that a certified scuba instructor friend drowned. She shouldn't have gone after her partner's fin, which he dropped after getting back into the boat, but still. It was two weeks before they found her body. No thanks. I don't want my last breaths to be thick.
Also a water baby and drowning is also a terror death of mine as well. Came near once. Went out alone on a big day in SoCal off my local beach in Corona del Mar, alone and tried to ride a spot that only broke when it got over a certain height, 10 to 15 feet, that no one to my knowledge had ever tried before. First wave, it was so big and fast that the board started chattering. My ankles were not strong enough. Wipe out and lost my board. No leashes in those days. It went all the way in and I was about 200 yards or so from the beach. I was 15 and in the best shape of my life but did not think that I was going to be able to make it back in. The war was going on then and Marine choppers were everywhere all the time. Two or three went by and every time one went by I tried to wave at them and get their attention. Didn't happen. I started to imagine that I was not going to make it in before I ran out of energy. It took me what seemed like an hour just to get to the shore break which was about 6 to 10 feet high breaking on some pretty jagged rocks. Finally took another hour to time the break just right and make it on to the beach slightly scratched up. Retrieved my board and began one of the longest and hardest walks home ever. One of the stupidest things I ever did.
The thought of drowning scared the bejeezus out of me and in my mind is one of the most violent ways to die. Last time I ever went out alone in anything over shoulder high surf or anytime really after that. The buddy system or not at all.
I have no idea what family and friends might think but I do know that many passionate anglers want to go this way and not spend their waning years tied down to a bed or a wheel chair.
Perhaps, but as a water-baby (Pisces born in a town called Neptune, learned to swim in the Atlantic Ocean) and who grew up beneath and on the waves (body- and board-surfing, snorkling, etc.), I can tell you that a drowning death is a terror of mine. Didn't help, either, that a certified scuba instructor friend drowned. She shouldn't have gone after her partner's fin, which he dropped after getting back into the boat, but still. It was two weeks before they found her body. No thanks. I don't want my last breaths to be thick.
The âdeath indexâ is the number of times more likely you are to die. So, for example, the data in the chart below shows that a person traveling in the U.S. by intercity rail is 20 times as likely to die from that mode of transportation while traveling the same approximate distance as compared to a person flying on a scheduled passenger flight (though the rates for each are low).
Transportation mode
Death index
Airlines
1
Intercity rail (Amtrak)
20.0
Scheduled charter flights
34.3
Mass transit (rail and bus)
49.8
Non-scheduled charter flights
59.5
Non-scheduled helicopter flights
63.0
General aviation (like private planes)
271.7
Driving or riding in a car/SUV
453.6
Chart data compiled and analyzed from NTSB, U.S. DOT via Diio Mi, NHTSA.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing rgio. Good article.
Certainly confirms my bias/impression that getting into an automobile is one of the most dangerous things that most of us do on a regular basis.
I would be curious to compare these numbers to bicycle commuting fatalities. Reckon that one can improve things by obeying road rules, respecting automobile drivers and staying highly visible.
The comments on that article are good.
One points out that deaths-per-hour are probably not going to throw off the same ratios, since planes eat up a lot more miles per hour than any of those other options. (charter flights/private planes go fast, but not as fast as "airlines" averages)
I don't want to make light on the facebook page because Beezy's hurting, but I just snorted some coffee reading a newspaper article about a guy who died fishing on a lake. The brief notice ends with
The lake covers 11,200 surface acres with a total capacity of 129,800 acre-feet and about 339 miles of shoreline. It is a recreational lake with fishing opportunities for large-mouth bass, spotted bass, bluegill and other sunfish, crappie, catfish, striped bass, hybrid and white bass.
I have no idea what family and friends might think but I do know that many passionate anglers want to go this way and not spend their waning years tied down to a bed or a wheel chair.
The âdeath indexâ is the number of times more likely you are to die. So, for example, the data in the chart below shows that a person traveling in the U.S. by intercity rail is 20 times as likely to die from that mode of transportation while traveling the same approximate distance as compared to a person flying on a scheduled passenger flight (though the rates for each are low).
Transportation mode
Death index
Airlines
1
Intercity rail (Amtrak)
20.0
Scheduled charter flights
34.3
Mass transit (rail and bus)
49.8
Non-scheduled charter flights
59.5
Non-scheduled helicopter flights
63.0
General aviation (like private planes)
271.7
Driving or riding in a car/SUV
453.6
Chart data compiled and analyzed from NTSB, U.S. DOT via Diio Mi, NHTSA.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing rgio. Good article.
Certainly confirms my bias/impression that getting into an automobile is one of the most dangerous things that most of us do on a regular basis.
I would be curious to compare these numbers to bicycle commuting fatalities. Reckon that one can improve things by obeying road rules, respecting automobile drivers and staying highly visible.
I don't want to make light on the facebook page because Beezy's hurting, but I just snorted some coffee reading a newspaper article about a guy who died fishing on a lake. The brief notice ends with
The lake covers 11,200 surface acres with a total capacity of 129,800 acre-feet and about 339 miles of shoreline. It is a recreational lake with fishing opportunities for large-mouth bass, spotted bass, bluegill and other sunfish, crappie, catfish, striped bass, hybrid and white bass.
What is the cost of Greater LA helicopter transportation in a helicopter large enough to carry 9? ~US$5K/hour? More?
How much time was he saving by avoiding LA traffic?
Helicopter travel is a risky way to show wealth.
SO i am fine if I never take flight in a helicopter...they scare me...but statistically speaking helicopters are about 7X safer than going the same distance in a car. I was surprised when I saw someone post this, and it doesn't change my mind...but it's not a bad way to get around if you can afford it.
The âdeath indexâ is the number of times more likely you are to die. So, for example, the data in the chart below shows that a person traveling in the U.S. by intercity rail is 20 times as likely to die from that mode of transportation while traveling the same approximate distance as compared to a person flying on a scheduled passenger flight (though the rates for each are low).
Transportation mode
Death index
Airlines
1
Intercity rail (Amtrak)
20.0
Scheduled charter flights
34.3
Mass transit (rail and bus)
49.8
Non-scheduled charter flights
59.5
Non-scheduled helicopter flights
63.0
General aviation (like private planes)
271.7
Driving or riding in a car/SUV
453.6
Chart data compiled and analyzed from NTSB, U.S. DOT via Diio Mi, NHTSA.
Driving or riding in a Tesla on (or off) autopilot 999.9
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Jan 28, 2020 - 1:21pm
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
I don't want to make light on the facebook page because Beezy's hurting, but I just snorted some coffee reading a newspaper article about a guy who died fishing on a lake. The brief notice ends with
The lake covers 11,200 surface acres with a total capacity of 129,800 acre-feet and about 339 miles of shoreline. It is a recreational lake with fishing opportunities for large-mouth bass, spotted bass, bluegill and other sunfish, crappie, catfish, striped bass, hybrid and white bass.
What is the cost of Greater LA helicopter transportation in a helicopter large enough to carry 9? ~US$5K/hour? More?
How much time was he saving by avoiding LA traffic?
Helicopter travel is a risky way to show wealth.
SO i am fine if I never take flight in a helicopter...they scare me...but statistically speaking helicopters are about 7X safer than going the same distance in a car. I was surprised when I saw someone post this, and it doesn't change my mind...but it's not a bad way to get around if you can afford it.
The âdeath indexâ is the number of times more likely you are to die. So, for example, the data in the chart below shows that a person traveling in the U.S. by intercity rail is 20 times as likely to die from that mode of transportation while traveling the same approximate distance as compared to a person flying on a scheduled passenger flight (though the rates for each are low).
Transportation mode
Death index
Airlines
1
Intercity rail (Amtrak)
20.0
Scheduled charter flights
34.3
Mass transit (rail and bus)
49.8
Non-scheduled charter flights
59.5
Non-scheduled helicopter flights
63.0
General aviation (like private planes)
271.7
Driving or riding in a car/SUV
453.6
Chart data compiled and analyzed from NTSB, U.S. DOT via Diio Mi, NHTSA.
I used to fly in helicopters a lot in a former life. IMO the pilot skill and the quality of the company have a huge effect on safety. The mostly routine flying probably doesn't do a lot for maintaining skills for the commuter service, even as the pilot racks up a lot of hours. But they probably put in their dues in gnarly situations like servicing offshore rigs so who knows?
Interesting that Amtrak is higher than airlines. Most of the deaths are probably suicide #badjoke
I don't want to make light on the facebook page because Beezy's hurting, but I just snorted some coffee reading a newspaper article about a guy who died fishing on a lake. The brief notice ends with
The lake covers 11,200 surface acres with a total capacity of 129,800 acre-feet and about 339 miles of shoreline. It is a recreational lake with fishing opportunities for large-mouth bass, spotted bass, bluegill and other sunfish, crappie, catfish, striped bass, hybrid and white bass.
What is the cost of Greater LA helicopter transportation in a helicopter large enough to carry 9? ~US$5K/hour? More?
How much time was he saving by avoiding LA traffic?
Helicopter travel is a risky way to show wealth.
SO i am fine if I never take flight in a helicopter...they scare me...but statistically speaking helicopters are about 7X safer than going the same distance in a car. I was surprised when I saw someone post this, and it doesn't change my mind...but it's not a bad way to get around if you can afford it.
The âdeath indexâ is the number of times more likely you are to die. So, for example, the data in the chart below shows that a person traveling in the U.S. by intercity rail is 20 times as likely to die from that mode of transportation while traveling the same approximate distance as compared to a person flying on a scheduled passenger flight (though the rates for each are low).
Transportation mode
Death index
Airlines
1
Intercity rail (Amtrak)
20.0
Scheduled charter flights
34.3
Mass transit (rail and bus)
49.8
Non-scheduled charter flights
59.5
Non-scheduled helicopter flights
63.0
General aviation (like private planes)
271.7
Driving or riding in a car/SUV
453.6
Chart data compiled and analyzed from NTSB, U.S. DOT via Diio Mi, NHTSA.
I am seeing from all sides people taking Kobe's death and moreso the medias and public's response to the news and applying their own agendas. Look, of course he is going to get more media coverage than the other people on board. Everyone knows who Kobe is so it is the death of someone you know and have seen many times, maybe he has even given you some entertainment or even if you don't follow sports because he spoke what 4 or 5 languages lived in different countries and was a true metropolitan public figure who had interesting things to say. Then there is also the dark side, what happened in that hotel room so many years ago? I saw a post by the alleged victims Godfather I think and the only reason he posted was to stick up for her because of the terrible things people were saying in relation to her receiving a settlement to not testify. The whole situation and how to approach it, just like Kobe, is very complicated. I know I have heard the stories regarding Ellen Degeneres private life, but I have always admired her public life and think that she has an impeccable skill on approaching subjects with the imo correct perspective. She has the amazing ability to espouse her opinions which many may not agree with in a respectful way that always seems to come around to we're all in this together. I really liked her response to Kobe's death.
Kobe is king here in L.A. He meant so much to all of us. And you're right, he should not have been flying that helicopter. He got all his requisite certifications, yada yada, but he was a hobby amateur pilot. Real pilots know about the fog that was there, and the way the machine handles in the extra pressure of fog, and how to handle such low visibility. A man who can afford a pilot, should hire one when he ferries 9 people. I'm all for getting your own maching and flying it maybe with a friend or two. He got his certifications and they wanted to sell him the most expensive machine they could. There's blood on many hands in this situation, and lessons to be learned. If 9 people need to be transported, you need a near professional, former professional or current professional to fly them, period.
No, you're thinking of John Denver. BTW, I know it is against the rules, but you got anymore of that stuff to send my way? It must be pretty damn good.
BTW, I know it is against the rules, but you got anymore of that stuff to send my way? It must be pretty damn good.